Why is Andy Isabella not being used?

GoldGloveschmidt

ASFN Lifer
Joined
Aug 29, 2013
Posts
4,285
Reaction score
7,051
He is small, runs mediocre routes, and struggles to consistently catch the ball. These are all mostly correctable, but he is far from a "rock solid" prospect.

He dominated college, broke out at an early age, was top quarter percentile in yards per catch and sparq. Historically players with these traits do well in the NFL. Drafting is about playing the odds and these are traits th at give a player a higher success rate in the NFL. Give him some time.
 

Cheesebeef

ASFN IDOL
Supporting Member
Joined
Jan 2, 2003
Posts
91,430
Reaction score
68,611
Nothing has changed in real life, only in fan expectations.

Isabella is a rock solid prospect. He will be a good NFL player.

totally disagree nothing has changed in "real life". The days where it used routinely take 2 years for WR to develop are from a bygone era where WRs could routinely be held, get absolutely destroyed going over the middle and didn't protect QBs nearly as much as the rules do now. All the NFL rule changes that have been instituted in the last decade or so have almost all been to the benefit of passing offenses which has dramatically changed the game itself. In the process we've seen rookie WRs up and down the drafts not only make decent impacts, but some MAJOR impacts in their first seasons.

dude was a 2nd round pick. to not even be able to see the field in the first three games as part of a really mediocre WR unit doesn't say much about him at this point. Good teams should expect 2nd rounders to at least be able to play on weak units, if not make an impact as well.
 

Dr. Jones

Has No Time For Love
Joined
Nov 2, 2004
Posts
27,351
Reaction score
16,231
The problem in my mind is that the coaches are saying all of the standard things you hear when they are disappointed in the progress of a rookie.

He may not get a meaningful snap all year.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
 

Chopper0080

2021 - Prove It
Joined
May 15, 2002
Posts
28,342
Reaction score
40,460
Location
Colorado
He dominated college, broke out at an early age, was top quarter percentile in yards per catch and sparq. Historically players with these traits do well in the NFL. Drafting is about playing the odds and these are traits th at give a player a higher success rate in the NFL. Give him some time.
I'm not saying he can't develop. I'm saying that he had plenty of holes as a draft prospect.
 

AZCrazy

ASFN Lifer
Joined
May 18, 2014
Posts
3,984
Reaction score
2,562
He started the season injured and we're pretty stacked at WR. You want to make Fitz sit? Or Kirk? Byrd, Sherfield, and Isabella will split time at WR3 for this year.
 

Cheesebeef

ASFN IDOL
Supporting Member
Joined
Jan 2, 2003
Posts
91,430
Reaction score
68,611
He started the season injured and we're pretty stacked at WR.

stacked?! quantity doesn't equal quantity. Right now, we run a consistent 4 WR set with only two legitimate NFL WRs on the roster.

You want to make Fitz sit? Or Kirk? /QUOTE]

no one has said or intimated anything near this stupid.

Byrd, Sherfield, and Isabella will split time at WR3 for this year.

when this ACTUALLY comes to pass, you'll have a point. but right now, our second round WR can't beat out two guys who would have trouble making other rosters in the league.
 

Solar7

Go Suns
Joined
May 18, 2002
Posts
11,172
Reaction score
12,108
Location
Las Vegas, NV
I'm all for giving a guy time to develop but not a second round pick either sitting inactive or not getting targeted at all is nowhere near "give him some time."

Especially when you consider that we gave up a #13, a 3rd, and a 5th to get him.
 

football karma

Michael snuggles the cap space
Joined
Jul 22, 2002
Posts
15,245
Reaction score
14,305
i think Andy needs to contribute in some fashion this year

its a reasonable expectation for a 2nd round pick

i think its too early to call him a bad pick or a bust, but it can also be a disappointment he isnt further along
 

PACardsFan

ASFN Icon
Joined
May 15, 2002
Posts
10,250
Reaction score
12,215
Location
York, PA
i think Andy needs to contribute in some fashion this year

its a reasonable expectation for a 2nd round pick

i think its too early to call him a bad pick or a bust, but it can also be a disappointment he isnt further along

KK sounds every bit as excited about Isabella today, as he did the day we drafted him. As fans, we want EVERY pick to pan out asap. Give it time, there are plans for him to contribute. I've grown to question small school picks, but time will tell.
 

CardsSunsDbacks

Not So Skeptical
Joined
Aug 26, 2012
Posts
10,152
Reaction score
6,603
KK sounds every bit as excited about Isabella today, as he did the day we drafted him. As fans, we want EVERY pick to pan out asap. Give it time, there are plans for him to contribute. I've grown to question small school picks, but time will tell.
Exactly. Small school guy who also missed time in TC. It's not unreasonable to consider that he is simply just a little behind at the moment, but let's see what happens at least the remainder of this season.
 

Bkbobo

Hall of Famer
Joined
Mar 5, 2019
Posts
1,402
Reaction score
1,815
Location
Washington, DC
Another point about Andy. He was a running back in high school. He been a WR for only four years. He worked his butt off to become a good receiver, and he will work his butt off to be a good NFL player.
 

Arz101

ASFN Lifer
Joined
Apr 23, 2014
Posts
4,906
Reaction score
5,600
Kirk and Bryd are out against Bengals.

If Isabella doesn't get a catch and loses the job to Cooper who was chilling on his couch until Monday, chalk up Isabella as a BUST.
 

tnmike

Hall of Famer
Joined
Oct 22, 2006
Posts
1,397
Reaction score
1,535
Location
Nashville, TN
Kirk and Bryd are out against Bengals.

If Isabella doesn't get a catch and loses the job to Cooper who was chilling on his couch until Monday, chalk up Isabella as a BUST.
Jerry Rice stunk when he was a rookie
 

Ouchie-Z-Clown

I'm better than Mulli!
Joined
Sep 16, 2002
Posts
63,593
Reaction score
58,006
Location
SoCal
He started the season injured and we're pretty stacked at WR. You want to make Fitz sit? Or Kirk? Byrd, Sherfield, and Isabella will split time at WR3 for this year.
Stacked?

Byrd
Sherfield

Stacked.
 

CardsSunsDbacks

Not So Skeptical
Joined
Aug 26, 2012
Posts
10,152
Reaction score
6,603
You must be registered for see images attach
Jerry had almost 1000 yards his rookie year and that was while only starting 4 games. I do agree that people are being way too impatient with AI though. He's a young receiver that is making a very big jump in competition and was injured in TC. It's fair to expect him to be behind because of that.
 

SoonerLou

ASFN Addict
Joined
Sep 15, 2019
Posts
8,156
Reaction score
12,265
Location
St Louis, MO
Another point about Andy. He was a running back in high school. He been a WR for only four years. He worked his butt off to become a good receiver, and he will work his butt off to be a good NFL player.
Andy sort of reminds me of Curtis Samuel for the Panthers.

Another 4.3 guy that really had trouble using his speed downfield because he wasn't a natural route runner. Its taken until his 3rd year to start figuring it out.
 

RugbyMuffin

ASFN IDOL
Joined
Apr 30, 2003
Posts
30,485
Reaction score
4,877
A small school player is having issues transitioning to the NFL?

Shocker

Sent from my mystical communication warp drive device thingy
 

Russ Smith

The Original Whizzinator
Supporting Member
Joined
May 14, 2002
Posts
87,666
Reaction score
38,954
Jerry Rice stunk when he was a rookie


49 catches 927 yards 3 tds. Not great, and too many drops, but he didn't even remotely stink.

Next year 86 catches 15 TD's so he stunk compared to that.

I vividly remember Rice's rookie year you just kept hearing how good he was in practice and that the guys were not concerned they knew he'd get over the jitters and drops and be really good.
 

Latest posts

Members online

Forum statistics

Threads
553,681
Posts
5,410,696
Members
6,319
Latest member
route66
Top