Wilks saved his job.

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It’s amazing what a single win can do.

As preposterous as it sounds, I believe this one win will ensure that Wilks returns for a second year as HC.

Think about the circumstances surrounding last Sundays game...They has just been embarrassed on national television, fired their OC, and now faced a 1-6 49ers team that has no business winning another game without Jimmy G. Pressure was at an all time high.

By winning this game it finally gave credibility to a decision Wilks has made (promoting Leftwich) and on top of this they achieved their first home win of the season. (A huge boost for morale)

When you consider that the bye is this Sunday it keeps all negative criticism at bay until they take the field again. It truly was the perfect time for a bye as the “fire Wilks” chatter will be brushed aside for several days.

As long as the offense continues to take strides, I see no changes in 2019 even if we go 2-14 (I didn’t think that would be possible before Sunday)
 

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I don't agree. It completely depends on how they perform the rest of the season.

People's memory is very short.

If the team still looks like crap in week 15 & 16 he will be gone.

By the way if you really believe it was Wilks decision to fire McCoy and promote Leftwich I think you are very naive. I don't care what he said - that decision 100% came from Bidwill, who told Wilks to say that to let him try and save face.

Pretty darn sure the defensive changes were a result of Bidwill telling him to make the defense more like last year because that worked.

I don't believe Wilks after being very defiant in the previous weeks press conference when asked about always playing nickle changed his mind about that on his own either without a serious suggestion from senior management.
 
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I think Oakland and Detroit games at home are both winnable. They could end of 4 & 12. Would that be enough for Wilks to keep his job?? I really don't know.
 
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I don't agree. It completely depends on how they perform the rest of the season.

People's memory is very short.

If the team still looks like crap in week 15 & 16 he will be gone.

By the way if you really believe it was Wilks decision to fire McCoy and promote Leftwich I think you are very naive. I don't care what he said - that decision 100% came from Bidwill, who told Wilks to say that to let him try and save face.

Pretty darn sure the defensive changes were a result of Bidwill telling him to make the defense more like last year because that worked.

I don't believe Wilks after being very defiant in the previous weeks press conference when asked about always playing nickle changed his mind about that on his own either without a serious suggestion from senior management.

I think performance matters, just not wins. As long as the offense can show signs of competence and Rosen appears to be developing I believe Wilks is safe for another year.

And yes we all know regardless of what Wilks said, firing McCoy was an organizational decision as Keim went on the air Friday morning and dropped hints of letting McCoy before it was public news.

Based on the long leashes previous Arizona Cardinals coaches have had when they begin to struggle, I can’t see Bidwill yanking Wilks as HC after 1 year regardless of how bad he wants to win. I do believe one negative trait he may have as an owner is being loyal to a fault (not the worst trait a guy could have)
 

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No, Wilks is done for me, the D still wasn't good, better but not good.

the 4-3 switch and even more the 4-2-5 switch was ... bad.

In the summer he claimed it wouldn't make much difference in the sub packages... but com'on man ... 3-3-5 or 2-4-5 or 2-3-6(and yes we had sometimes 6 DBacks on the field) is totally different to a 4-2-5 when you don't have 2 great ILB ...

This total HC gig was a blunder, and if Leftwich emerges as a good OC for Rosen to keep, than we hire a HC that lets Leftwich do what he does ... aka we hire Bowles XD (at least some dream about that don't know if Bowles is that great yet as a HC but he is way better than Bettcher or many others out there i give you that).
 

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I would be shocked if Wilks was fired after this year. Even if we went 0-16 and got blown out every week, I could see him staying. It's just the Bidwill way. There have been many years where a GM, coach or FO person should have been let go years ago and this ownership holds on.
 

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I think Oakland and Detroit games at home are both winnable. They could end of 4 & 12. Would that be enough for Wilks to keep his job?? I really don't know.

Oakland yes, Detroit not so sure. They have a decent run game and their passing game is probably middle of the road in the NFL. The Cardinals are going to have to play four good quarters to beat Detroit. You will not beat them with one good quarter of football.
 

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Depends on the media.

We’d probably still have McCoy as OC with the way Wilks was making excuses for him if it wasn’t for the media finally realizing it and badgering him and Keim over and over.
 

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I think Oakland and Detroit games at home are both winnable. They could end of 4 & 12. Would that be enough for Wilks to keep his job?? I really don't know.


tell me how Josh Rosen and the offense looks in the final 8 --

If they go 4-12, but Rosen progresses, the offense achieves "competent" status and they are competitive over the final 8 --- he probably survives

but:

if the defense returns to its sieve like ways, and, lets say the final three: @Atl, LA Rams at home, @SEA --- are uncompetitive blowouts where it looks like the team quit -- hard time seeing him surviving
 

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No, I don't think it was make or break for Wilks. It won't be easy for him but he'll have the eight remaining games to prove he should stay.
 

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Wilks is horrendous. Cut bait and get a new staff for next year. This guy has the deer in the headlights look and needs to be fired. I'd do it tomorrow. Hopefully Bidwill sees this and we don't end up winning 2-4 games next year. Ticket sales are going to plummet
 

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I think it really comes down down who else is out there and willing to come to what now looks like a project. If Keim goes then Wilks most definitely goes.
 

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I don't think a win over the freaking Niners saved his job at all. If the Cardinals show considerable improvement throughout the rest of the season then yeah he has a chance if not he's a goner.
 

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I don’t think a win saved his job, because I don’t believe it was ever really in jeopardy. There would have to be similar levels of chaos over the second half to the last two or three weeks to justify that.

The Cards have the third-toughest slate in the NFL over the remainder of the season. People who think the offense showed progress aren’t thinking clearly. If those TDS had come in the first and third quarter, it’s a very different song.
 
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I don't think a win over the freaking Niners saved his job at all. If the Cardinals show considerable improvement throughout the rest of the season then yeah he has a chance if not he's a goner.

I just don’t think Michael has the guts regardless of what happens the rest of the way this season...

Michael became president in 2007 and the two HC hires under his leadership are Whisenhunt and B.A. It took 3 consecutive non winning/non playoff seasons before he canned Whiz. B.A. had back to back non winning/non playoff seasons and in all reality would have been back for another year had he not retired.

I’ve simply come to the conclusion that it really doesn’t matter what the final record says, the odds are overwhelmingly in favor of Wilks returning despite popular opinion.
 

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Wilks is a sorry excuse for a head coach and all the ones in the locker room and the office know it. They would have fired him after the Rams game if they could of. It would have been a PR nightmare. Dude is toast ...book it....Thank God
Btw I hate you Wilks
 

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Literally the only positive I see for Wilks staying is we’re most likely going to draft Ed Oliver or Quinnen Williams if they’re still on the board so he can build the DLine like it was in Carolina with Short & Star.
 

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Lets get to the meat of this story....Wilkes is just a dude....Who probably wouldn't have been on ANY teams radar as a DC.... But "someone" talked MB into making him our Head coach, and he ate it up.

Why? I have no farking idea... But MB needs to hire someone with football smarts, because Keim can apparently talk him into some seriously ridiculous decisions.
 

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I just don’t think Michael has the guts regardless of what happens the rest of the way this season...

Michael became president in 2007 and the two HC hires under his leadership are Whisenhunt and B.A. It took 3 consecutive non winning/non playoff seasons before he canned Whiz. B.A. had back to back non winning/non playoff seasons and in all reality would have been back for another year had he not retired.

I’ve simply come to the conclusion that it really doesn’t matter what the final record says, the odds are overwhelmingly in favor of Wilks returning despite popular opinion.

Please don't compare this situation to the Whiz one. Whiz took us to the Super Bowl & deep into the playoffs the following year. Wilks couldn't get us to 5 wins if he stayed here 20 years. Let's hope KC puts up 70 against us & Rosen stays healthy. We have 2 wins against the Niners, big deal!! By season's end, this team will likely be 3-13 at best. To get rid of Wilks, I hope it's 2-14. It would definitely not be the Cardinal way to fire an HC after 1 season, but in this case, they need to. Will they? Probably not. Michael will wait until they're 1-7 next year & then pull the plug. Of course, by then, we'll have 25,000 fans in the stadium & they'll all be rooting for the visiting team.
 

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I don’t think a win saved his job, because I don’t believe it was ever really in jeopardy. There would have to be similar levels of chaos over the second half to the last two or three weeks to justify that.

The Cards have the third-toughest slate in the NFL over the remainder of the season. People who think the offense showed progress aren’t thinking clearly. If those TDS had come in the first and third quarter, it’s a very different song.

If fan apathy continues to increase , I could see Michael B making that change just to rejuvenate the fan base.
 

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If fan apathy continues to increase , I could see Michael B making that change just to rejuvenate the fan base.
Maybe, but I think Rosen, Kirk, maybe Fitz, and a top draft pick keeps the fires burning through the offseason.

Just some upwards regression from David Johnson will make a huge difference too. The fans here got excited for Sam Bradford, Steve Wilks and his painted bricks.
 

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I don't think barely beating one of the worst teams in football with a terrible backup QB playing for them really saves anyones job.
 

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A few more games like the one against the Broncos and he will go too. And I believe they are coming.
 

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Two wins that if Jimmy G is healthy would not have happened.

If Wilks' job is safe, then I question the Cardinals ability to build a NFL team.

Right now this team is historically bad, and there is numbers to prove it. Not to mention the eye test.

This feel good week it going to go away real quick when a week from Sunday the Chiefs set single game offensive records against this team.
 
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