Will Bender's option be picked up?

[BC867]

Dude, nobody is condoning anything. Nobody is pleased with anything. Reality is that there is just no way to plug the PG and PF holes right now. You are like a broken record, complaining about something with no solution.

Man, I hope the Suns leadership isn't giving up that easily. The worst part is that Suns leadership has gotten us into this mess.

You're right! Unless there are major changes in leadership, there is no solution.

And I am hardly the only "broken record" fan displeased with this situation.

I'll try, once again, to not respond to posts to the contrary.

 

[1tinsoldier]

Dude, nobody is condoning anything. Nobody is pleased with anything. Reality is that there is just no way to plug the PG and PF holes right now. You are like a broken record, complaining about something with no solution.

for one thing, the Suns have 2 picks they could trade
and as of the 6th blowout in a row pushing 30 points, one of those picks looks to be top 5

there are always options and solutions and the coach, GM, and owner are obligated to find them.

and BC is complaining no more than the average fan when their team sucks

 

[Mainstreet]

for one thing, the Suns have 2 picks they could trade
and as of the 6th blowout in a row pushing 30 points, one of those picks looks to be top 5

there are always options and solutions and the coach, GM, and owner are obligated to find them.

and BC is complaining no more than the average fan when their team sucks

The owner and the GM are the problem and the coaching is not looking too good either.

 

[1Sun]

The owner and the GM are the problem and the coaching is not looking too good either.

Actually, coaching-wise the team pretty much looks like it did during Lindsay Hunter's interim stint, when Kokoskov was basically running the show then. It was my greatest fear with the Kokoskov hire.

 

[1tinsoldier]

The owner and the GM are the problem and the coaching is not looking too good either.

and fixing the coaching and general management is another solution

yes, i'm complaining
and "no solution" is not acceptable

 

[Chaplin]

Actually, coaching-wise the team pretty much looks like it did during Lindsay Hunter's interim stint, when Kokoskov was basically running the show then. It was my greatest fear with the Kokoskov hire.

Riiight. You really have mastered the “hindsight is 20/20” thing haven’t you?

 

[Mainstreet]

and fixing the coaching and general management is another solution

yes, i'm complaining
and "no solution" is not acceptable

I'm with you but I worry the Suns have already made those decisions.

 

[1Sun]

Riiight. You really have mastered the “hindsight is 20/20” thing haven’t you?

Actually it was a concern I voiced when they first interviewed him.

 

[Chaplin]

Actually it was a concern I voiced when they first interviewed him.

Of course you did.

 

[1Sun]

and fixing the coaching and general management is another solution

yes, i'm complaining
and "no solution" is not acceptable

Rick Pitino, anyone?

 

[GatorAZ]

Rick Pitino, anyone?

If we’re going to go the ex-elite college coach route I’d love Billy Donovan. The Suns are basically a college team begging for player development and he’ll probably get fired from the the un-coachable Thunder. @Russ Smith would probably have a heart attack though.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Rick Pitino, anyone?

I wouldn't mind adding Pitino but I don't think we'd like the media slaughter we'd face if we fired another Head Coach at the start of the season. I'd offer him a consulting position, maybe he can at least teach these guys how to defend.

 

[1Sun]

I wouldn't mind adding Pitino but I don't think we'd like the media slaughter we'd face if we fired another Head Coach at the start of the season. I'd offer him a consulting position, maybe he can at least teach these guys how to defend.

If this team continues not to be competitive, and if the young players continue to regress, I don't think we really have a choice but to cut our losses with Kokoskov. He looks to be in way over his head.

 

[1tinsoldier]

yes, at least hire an assistant coach to focus on defense
do something
and keep doing something
until this team starts moving in the right direction

 

[1Sun]

Bring back David Griffin to be GM, and let Griffin decide if he wants to stick with Igor or bring in his own coach.

 

[Krangodnzr]

and BC is complaining no more than the average fan when their team sucks

Literally every BC post is the same. Before we got Ayton it was the Sun's need a center. Now it's the Sun's need a PG. I literally skim his posts and when I see he has mentioned Booker is going to get hurt playing minutes at PG and the Sun's need a PG, I stop reading and move on. It's the most predictable situation on this board.

 

[BC867]

Literally every BC post is the same. Before we got Ayton it was the Sun's need a center. Now it's the Sun's need a PG. I literally skim his posts and when I see he has mentioned Booker is going to get hurt playing minutes at PG and the Sun's need a PG, I stop reading and move on. It's the most predictable situation on this board.

It's sad that the situation is predictable. You'll notice that when I post, it is almost always in response to specific posts. I've read recent posts calling for the coach to be fired a few weeks into the season. It is not a happy time.

But I appreciate your comments. BTW, you left out my references to the damage that Robert Sarver has done to this franchise.

Damnit, as a long time fan, I just take it all so much to heart. Even with the #1 pick, we're worse than a year ago, with another early firing and the Suns still being the laughingstock of the NBA, with porous defense and losing games by 30 points.

Some other posters have said that they can no longer bear to watch the Suns. I watch every game. Maybe that's part of my problem. Or perhaps I should skim here, too, when there is a long list of posts, instead of reading every one (many of which are also repetitive) now that I am retired and have more time on my hands.

Every time I tell myself that I am not going to respond to a post with which I disagree, I wind up doing it. It is frustrating! And most of the time when I see posts with which I agree, I just hit "Like". And, BTW, a couple of hours ago I received a private message urging me to keep posting my reaction, for which I thanked him.

 

[AzStevenCal]

It's sad that the situation is predictable. You'll notice that when I post, it is almost always in response to specific posts. I've read recent posts calling for the coach to be fired a few weeks into the season. It is not a happy time.

But I appreciate your comments. BTW, you left out my references to the damage that Robert Sarver has done to this franchise.

Damnit, as a long time fan, I just take it all so much to heart. Even with the #1 pick, we're worse than a year ago, with another early firing and the Suns still being the laughingstock of the NBA, with porous defense and losing games by 30 points.

Some other posters have said that they can no longer bear to watch the Suns. I watch every game. Maybe that's part of my problem. Or perhaps I should skim here, too, when there is a long list of posts, instead of reading every one (many of which are also repetitive) now that I am retired and have more time on my hands.

Every time I tell myself that I am not going to respond to a post with which I disagree, I wind up doing it. It is frustrating! And most of the time when I see posts with which I agree, I just hit "Like". And, BTW, a couple of hours ago I received a private message urging me to keep posting my reaction, for which I thanked him.

It's a frustrating time to be a Suns fan, I wouldn't take the reactions to heart BC. It's especially frustrating for us when you realize our only prayer of a chance at salvaging this season involves the return of a player who is just 2 days past his 22nd birthday.

 

[Phrazbit]

If a fan has to come up with how to build a team, what does that say about current leadership?

Why are you condoning the incompetent ownership team and their turnovers of General Managers and Head Coaches?

Are you pleased with the almost decade-long performance of the Suns?

The answer is not Stockton & Malone or bust. It is about putting together a balanced roster with experienced coaches.

Especially with our first ever top pick in the draft.

Dude, nobody is condoning anything. Nobody is pleased with anything. Reality is that there is just no way to plug the PG and PF holes right now. You are like a broken record, complaining about something with no solution.

BC, Stef is right. It's not about being content or giving up. I have no doubt we could bring in a competent point guard tomorrow, but the competent guards that are available are available for specific reasons, they're either old, about to be a free agent or they're already wildly overpaid. This team is not a team that should be focused on THIS season and there are essentially zero options available to the Suns that would help them both NOW and in future seasons... at least not for a price that is remotely reasonable.

My biggest worry isn't the coaching or the current roster. It's if they name James Jones non-interim GM. He might succeed, but I have little evidence to see why he would.

 

[Phrazbit]

Bring back David Griffin to be GM, and let Griffin decide if he wants to stick with Igor or bring in his own coach.

David Griffen... a wildly incompetent GM who only found a spasm of success because LeBron James felt guilty about abandoning his home town. If not for James being born in Ohio Griffen's legacy would be a slue of terrible signings and idiotic draft picks.

Please, please please please not David Griffen. He's the brand of idiot that would have traded Ayton for Marc Gasol.

 

[Phrazbit]

Rick Pitino, anyone?

A coach who's success was built upon bribes and hookers! Awesome.

 

[taz02]

How do you add the #1 and #10 pick and become worse?

 

[Russ Smith]

If we’re going to go the ex-elite college coach route I’d love Billy Donovan. The Suns are basically a college team begging for player development and he’ll probably get fired from the the un-coachable Thunder. @Russ Smith would probably have a heart attack though.

I actually don't know what Donovan's interests are. There's a ton of UCLA fans on Donovan watching hoping OKC fires him and then hoping UCLA can hire him. Whether or not he has any interest in coming back to college I don't know. I thought he did a good job with OKC, not spectacular but a good job. In college his teams seemed to be good at using bigs, that's something the Suns need a coach who does that. I have to say I've realy only watched your full game with the Warriors and I wasn't under the impression coaching was a big issue. Maybe player development is I don't know but I would say that's probably more on the previous staff, in particular on Earl Watson's watch.

It seemed to me the biggest issue you guys had was PG. Also seems like you've got guys like Anderson adn Ariza who are big factors in terms of 3 point shooting, but are very dependent on someone else setting them up. So without a PG right now someone else is going to have to be a combination of Ayton from the post, and Booker.

 

[1Sun]

A coach who's success was built upon bribes and hookers! Awesome.

He's actually had moderate success in the NBA, certainly more than Kokoskov or Triano.

 

[AzStevenCal]

How do you add the #1 and #10 pick and become worse?

You add a new coaching staff, 4 rookies, 3 veterans that appear to be past their use by date, and an injury to your best player.