Will Suns make a move before the trade deadline?

[1Sun]

Anderson, Warren, Bender, Okobo, and our top 7 protected first for Jrue Holiday and Solomon Hill. Make it happen.

I'd be dancing in the streets if this happened. Too bad there is no way that New Orleans would do it (due to return) or that the Suns would do it (due to the contracts of Holiday and Hill).

 

[GatorAZ]

Anderson, Warren, Bender, Okobo, and our top 7 protected first for Jrue Holiday and Solomon Hill. Make it happen.

What the point of a Anderson/Hill swap when they’re both guaranteed the same salary next year? Also, that pick would need to be top-1 protected for them to listen.

 

[AzStevenCal]

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Anderson, Warren, Bender, Okobo, and our top 7 protected first for Jrue Holiday and Solomon Hill. Make it happen.

I don't see that deal drawing any interest from New Orleans.

 

[JCSunsfan]

What the point of a Anderson/Hill swap when they’re both guaranteed the same salary next year? Also, that pick would need to be top-1 protected for them to listen.

Anderson is 20 mil in trade dollars, Hill is 12. Its necessary to make the numbers work for the trade. Hill is a fairly bad contract for them.

 

[JCSunsfan]

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I don't see that deal drawing any interest from New Orleans.

I don't think Holiday is valued as much as some think. One NO fan even said he would be thrilled to get Jackson and a couple seconds. Here ya go.

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1799155

 

[taz02]

What the point of a Anderson/Hill swap when they’re both guaranteed the same salary next year? Also, that pick would need to be top-1 protected for them to listen.

I agree

 

[GatorAZ]

Anderson is 20 mil in trade dollars, Hill is 12. Its necessary to make the numbers work for the trade. Hill is a fairly bad contract for them.

Regardless they’re not taking back Anderson. IMO the trade would look something like Warren and fillers plus our pick top-1 protected.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y9ephgnp

 

[AzStevenCal]

I don't think Holiday is valued as much as some think. One NO fan even said he would be thrilled to get Jackson and a couple seconds. Here ya go.

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1799155

I've made that point a few times the past couple of months but I still don't think that offer will top the list.

 

[Hoop Head]

The most the Suns could protect their own pick and still retain good value is top 3 protected. If they say Top 7 then they might as well offer a 2020 1st round pick because it's probably not conveying this year unless they get screwed by the pingpong balls.

 

[Hoop Head]

Regardless they’re not taking back Anderson. IMO the trade would look something like Warren and fillers plus our pick top-1 protected.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y9ephgnp

That's interesting how it says the Suns would lose 10 more games after making that deal while the Pelicans would only lose 1 extra game. Warren is a key contributor for the Suns this year but Bender, Daniels, and Okobo have very little effect on the standings. Adding a PG like Holiday wouldn't cost us anymore games than we'd lose already with the possible exception of 1 game where we're missing those 4 and haven't received Holiday yet. Chances are we'd lose that game anyway.

 

[GatorAZ]

That's interesting how it says the Suns would lose 10 more games after making that deal while the Pelicans would only lose 1 extra game. Warren is a key contributor for the Suns this year but Bender, Daniels, and Okobo have very little effect on the standings. Adding a PG like Holiday wouldn't cost us anymore games than we'd lose already with the possible exception of 1 game where we're missing those 4 and haven't received Holiday yet. Chances are we'd lose that game anyway.

Not as bad here. Only a -7 win projection.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ybck9m2f

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

Not as bad here. Only a -7 win projection.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ybck9m2f

I'm assuming that it is using a projected win total from before the season started and the Suns are so far behind that number at this point that those trades wouldn't be enough to overcome how far behind that projected number that they are.

 

[taz02]

Man I hope you guys are right about being able to get Holiday on the cheap. I think that the suns desperation for a PG will be a big factor. What ever holiday is worth, he is worth more to the suns.

I also believe that TJ and JJ are worth less to us since we have an abundance of wings.

I also think our pick is worth more to other teams than us since we are to young already and need to begin winning ASAP. Of course by pick I mean anything other than the #1.

I'm not sure I'd trade the rights to Zion for anyone in the league. The entertainment value would be priceless.

 

[devilalum]

Not as bad here. Only a -7 win projection.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ybck9m2f

Wait, what?
The Suns get the Greek Freak for Anderson and they lose 7 more games?

So instead of winning 11 they win 4?


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[Town Drunk]

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[GatorAZ]

I'm assuming that it is using a projected win total from before the season started and the Suns are so far behind that number at this point that those trades wouldn't be enough to overcome how far behind that projected number that they are.

So it’s impossible to have a positive trade projection?

 

[JCSunsfan]

Regardless they’re not taking back Anderson. IMO the trade would look something like Warren and fillers plus our pick top-1 protected.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y9ephgnp

Without Anderson, I don't think its possible to match the salaries.

Ps. OK, I fiddled with it a little more. This works.

Warren, Jackson, Bender, Daniels (plus whatever picks)

for

Holiday

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

So it’s impossible to have a positive trade projection?

If the preseason projection was 32 wins than we would have to go 22-7 for the rest of the season to get there. Therefor the Giannis for Anderson example that has us at -7 wins after the trade would mean that we actually went 14-15 with Giannis to end the season. While that may seem like a poor win loss with the addition of someone like Giannis it is a massive improvement over what we were before the trade. A trade that was in the positive could theoretically be possible, but at this point in this season it would have to be insanely lopsided in the Suns favor.

 

[devilalum]

Here ya go. Lol

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[Mainstreet]

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It's hard to know. Even if the Pelicans wanted to trade Holiday they might say this.

 

[1Sun]

Here ya go. Lol

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Of the three choices, I will take the stop-gap. Please no Ball.




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[Mainstreet]

I've been supportive of a trade for a player like Payton for a future second round pick for a long time.

I'd even kick the tires on Payton again unless he has burnt his bridges behind him.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Holiday is probably the best choice in a move we make now. He is signed up on a high, but not really high contract for a few years. I am not sold on getting Lonzo. Hope we don't get him.

 

[Red Bird]

Here ya go. Lol

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I've seen this same picture on FB but can't find a link to this post. Anyone have the link?

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

I've seen this same picture on FB but can't find a link to this post. Anyone have the link?

It's just a random post by someone on the Lakers reddit page. It is almost certainly just fake news.