Will the Cards stay at 26?

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I don't think they'll be selecting at 26 tonight. I think they either move up and grab McClain in the late teens or they trade back with some team wanting McCoy/Tebow/Clausen. I'd be ok with either move.
 

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I don't think they'll be selecting at 26 tonight. I think they either move up and grab McClain in the late teens or they trade back with some team wanting McCoy/Tebow/Clausen. I'd be ok with either move.
For a second I thought you would be okay with them trading up for Tebow or Claussen. I was going to punch you.
 

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I think they will move down.
 

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They will stay put.
 

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I don't see them moving up. Hopefully we don't have to move down either. Spoon, Hughes, Kindle or Williams (not likely) better be on the board!!! It would be very discouraging sitting around all night as fans & not coming away with one of our targets. :bang::bang::bang:
 

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I don't see them moving up. Hopefully we don't have to move down either. Spoon, Hughes, Kindle or Williams (not likely) better be on the board!!! It would be very discouraging sitting around all night as fans & not coming away with one of our targets. :bang::bang::bang:

Thats a big leap of faith assuming an OLB is one of our targets.
 

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I don't think they'll be selecting at 26 tonight. I think they either move up and grab McClain in the late teens or they trade back with some team wanting McCoy/Tebow/Clausen. I'd be ok with either move.

Yep, I could easily see Cleveland, Oakland, or Buffalo trade for our pick if Clausen's still on the board at #26. That would be hard to turn down if we still felt there would be significant talent that could slide to the front of Rd 2.

McShay just released his final mock and has Kindle going #12 to the Dolphins, Cards taking Hughes at #26, and Weatherspoon isn't in the first round. Very interesting, Miami is definitely a wild card as they could go any direction but I think they'll end up taking one of the LB's the Cards covet.
 
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For a second I thought you would be okay with them trading up for Tebow or Claussen. I was going to punch you.
I would punch myself if that happened.

You need to drive down to 35th and Shields and punch a couple Sox players to get their bats moving. :(
 

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It seems they could either move up.

On the pre-draft show they mentioned several teams at #12 or so looking to trade down. They could trade up for McClain.

They could also trade down for multiple picks if someone wants Clausen at #26.

I don't know what would be equal compensation but two second rounders wouldn't be bad.
 

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Question: Has Rod Graves EVER hinted...

that we might move up?? Like he did the other day. I've always thought his intentions are pretty transparent. I'm thinking that "extra arrow in the quiver" (ie; 3rd rd. pick) has the draft team thinking....Hmmmm? GO CARDS! :D
 

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I vote trade down. They'll likely do that because the following three arent available there - Dan Williams (yes the Cards would take him in a heartbeat IMHO) Rolando McClain or Sean Weatherspoon. Even with the likes of Kindle and Hughes still there id still think theyd trade back into the second and try and grab a good NT-ILB combo ideally Cody and Lee.
 

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Unless a player is there at #26 that the Cardinals really covet, I would love for the Cardinals to move down in the draft. It could make the second day of the draft really special.

I like the idea of having more picks. :)
 

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Unless a player is there at #26 that the Cardinals really covet, I would love for the Cardinals to move down in the draft. It could make the second day of the draft really special.

I like the idea of having more picks. :)

:yeahthat:

RG's hints at trading up could be to move up higher in the 2nd rd.
 

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Arbitrarily, I think the odds are 15% we trade up (Williams or McClain fall into the early 20s), 35% we trade down (McClain, Weatherspoon, and Williams are all off the board), and 50% that we don't find a trading partner and reach for Daryl Washington.
 

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IF McClain falls past Denver I think they try to move up. That's a big if though.
 

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I think McClain will be highly sought after and a team will trade up in the 11-12 range to take him if not sooner.That team will be afraid someone else also jumps to get him.All the negatives were smokescreen.
 

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Arbitrarily, I think the odds are 15% we trade up (Williams or McClain fall into the early 20s), 35% we trade down (McClain, Weatherspoon, and Williams are all off the board), and 50% that we don't find a trading partner and reach for Daryl Washington.

This Washington hunch you've got has you pretty spooked hasnt it? I dont know why you're getting all worked up about Daryl Washington, the guy is a very good player at his position. Sure he doesnt have the physical stature you'd want somebody to play at that position but it hasnt hampered him greatly in the past. The guy is an excellent performer at what he does and i have no doubt to believe he has both the capacity and the motivation to add 10-15lbs or with our strength and conditioning team. Maybe not immediately but he'll get there if we take him. There would be no need for it to happen immediately as he allready has shown that he has the skill set to perform at his current weight.

The only way i actually see any part of your predicition coming true is that the cards trade down to get Washington at the top of the second.Im one of his biggest fans but even i wouldnt be foolish enough to think that reaching for him at #26 would be a wise move and the Cardinals draft team are far better at evaluating talent then im so i dont see any reason why they would to. There is nothing in recent Cardinal draft history to suggest they would consider doing this. Darren Urban's prediction is about as wide of the chart as ive seen leading up to draft and ive no real feeling that he has made that pick because he has an inside tip. I could be wrong but i just dont see it happening.
 
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Trading back up in the second if we get Weatherspoon at 26th for Cody would'nt bother me a bit.Cody is gonna be Coach Lotts project from day one.We will need to sign him as quick as possible too.
 

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McClain will not get past the Giants at #15, and I'd bet they'll will try to top any "move up offer" to get him (IMHO)
 

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There's a slight chance that we trade up to grab a WILB, either McClain or 'Spoon but probably McClain. I think this is quite improbable.

If we sit tight and McClain or Spoon fall to us, we take one of them.

If McClain and Spoon are gone at 26, we try to trade down.

If McClain and Spoon are gone at 26 and we can't trade back, the pick will be either Lee or Washington.

That's what I think our FO's thought process is.
 

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This Washington hunch you've got has you pretty spooked hasnt it? I dont know why you're getting all worked up about Daryl Washington, the guy is a very good player at his position. Sure he doesnt have the physical stature you'd want somebody to play at that position but it hasnt hampered him greatly in the past. The guy is an excellent performer at what he does and i have no doubt to believe he has both the capacity and the motivation to add 10-15lbs or with our strength and conditioning team. Maybe not immediately but he'll get there if we take him. There would be no need for it to happen immediately as he allready has shown that he has the skill set to perform at his current weight.

The only way i actually see any part of your predicition coming true is that the cards trade down to get Washington at the top of the second.Im one of his bigges

I'm all about draft value. That's my biggest concern. You get good value, and your team improves. You reach for needed players, your team gets worse because the marginal cost is so much higher.

The Cards' mouthpieces aren't putting Washington's name out there on accident. Last week during Urban's chat he didn't really know any of the prospects. Now him and Wolfley are enamoured with Washington? That's no accident.

I love Daryl Washington as a 3rd round pick. I'm satisfied with him as a second round pick. But at 26th overall? It's terrible. If we're picking Daryl Washington 26th overall, it means that we're passing on 10-20 value players who are objectively better prospects than him, but aren't at positions of need.

I've been a fan of this team too long to see that happen again. It's exactly what happened when we drafted Calvin Pace because we ran out of DL talent. It's exactly what happened when we drafted Levi Brown because we didn't have an alternate plan at the OT position.

What we'd basically be doing is starting Paris Lenon for a year and a half in the hopes that Daryl Washington develops into a starting caliber player. You can't do that with position players who are first-round picks. They have to be starting or making major contributions within the first three-quarters of the season.

You develop 2nd and 3rd round picks on the bench for 2 years. You can't afford to do that with the 26th overall pick in the draft unless you're taking a QB.

What the Cards would basically be doing is saving money on Karlos Dansby by drafting a guy 26th overall that can be somewhat like him two years from now. It is--in a big way--putting up the white flag on the 2010 season, because you're admitting that your defense is going to be worse for the next year at least. I like Matt Leinart, but the defense has to at least hold serve (14th in the NFL in scoring) from 2009 if the Cards are going to repeat as division champs.
 

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