With the 8th pick in the NFL Draft......

[MaoTosiFanClub]

I would assume they go the defensive playmaker route. Just a hunch.

 

[TheCardFan]

I think we need to see what Butler and Isabella can do next year with bigger roles, and just can't afford to use a 1st round pick on a WR.

Also, what about trading for someone like Jarvis Landry?

I hope our young WR's can step up but TBH, if we have to go Rosen on them and draft/sign new WR's this year to replace them/get the production we need...so be it.

Fitz and Kirk are safe for 2020.
I think KJ has flashed potential but he needs to step it up.

Butler is unknown.
Isabella was absent.
Byrd is a FA and barely played.
Cooper is a solid KR and 6th/7th WR (seems like a popular locker room guy)
Sherfield - Buh Bye

If you can get a true #1 WR in rd 1, you do it. Sign Breshard Perriman as your #2 and this WR room is completely different.

Can't lie though...would love to see Ruggs as the #2. That dude can fly!

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[Dr. Jones]

Ruggs presents so many problems for defenses. I irrationally love him more than I love Lamb. But damn man. I just love him.

Center wise...... The Wisconsin kid and Humphrey are on my list.

I would love a Simmons / Humphrey first two rounds. LOVE LOVE LOVE

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

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Thank you for posting. I think I saw some good small space wiggle and a few (but only a few) great plays. But he doesn’t seem dominant. He’s not a burner. He’s not Barry sanders type moves. I didn’t see him catch any challenged balls. I just don’t see dominant.

 

[SoonerLou]

I hope our young WR's can step up but TBH, if we have to go Rosen on them and draft/sign new WR's this year to replace them/get the production we need...so be it.

Fitz and Kirk are safe for 2020.
I think KJ has flashed potential but he needs to step it up.

Butler is unknown.
Isabella was absent.
Byrd is a FA and barely played.
Cooper is a solid KR and 6th/7th WR (seems like a popular locker room guy)
Sherfield - Buh Bye

If you can get a true #1 WR in rd 1, you do it. Sign Breshard Perriman as your #2 and this WR room is completely different.

Can't lie though...would love to see Ruggs as the #2. That dude can fly!

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So talented...so frustrating.

Struggles to make routine plays. Then at the end of the year the last two seasons he looks like mini Julio.

 

[Cardsmasochist]

I don’t know who SK will pick but he will be a “tweener” that no one else had going in the top 20. And we will ask him play out of position.


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[Russ Smith]

Thank you for posting. I think I saw some good small space wiggle and a few (but only a few) great plays. But he doesn’t seem dominant. He’s not a burner. He’s not Barry sanders type moves. I didn’t see him catch any challenged balls. I just don’t see dominant.

At the 8th pick you're going to get value if you get him IMO. Look at the play about 2 minutes in against LSU it's a perfect example of what I was saying as to why his stats are down this year. LSU has 3 guys assigned to him, the CB lined up on him the LB who drops underneath him and then over the top the all american S Delpit. If you watch the whole clip actually the 4th guy the CB on the sideline drops off his man Smith right as the ball is being thrown. Smith was the guy who picked up the slack this year for Alabama his stats basically doubled, that play shows why IMO. they have 3 guys watching Jeudy and Smith is single covered, on this play the CB had good coverage so Tua took the under to Jeudy who again got open with 3 guys assigned to him.

I don't know if he's going to be dominant, he's not as big and freakish as Julio Jones for example, but he's got all the tools. I read something his freshman year that said people at camp who know Alabama well were all saying this is the best WR prospect they've had since Jones.

He's not as fast as Ruggs, he's not as quick as Smith, but he runs circles around all of them, and Lamb when it comes to running routes. I suspect Kyler will be comfortable with Lamb because they played together in college but one thing that was very apparent this year is Kyler has to have that trust, that you're going to see the same thing he did and make the same adjustment he does, I think that is where Jeudy separates from all the others he seems to me to be the guy who's going to make the right reads. You can't run patterns the way that guy does and not be studying.

 

[GatorAZ]

Thank you for posting. I think I saw some good small space wiggle and a few (but only a few) great plays. But he doesn’t seem dominant. He’s not a burner. He’s not Barry sanders type moves. I didn’t see him catch any challenged balls. I just don’t see dominant.

So far we have he’s not Julio or Barry when nobody brought them up. Neither is any WR close to that in this draft... However I do agree he doesn’t get many balls in traffic. One, I think his ball skills are underdeveloped to this point and two, he’s always dusting dudes so there’s not many opportunities.

 

[Russ Smith]

So far we have he’s not Julio or Barry when nobody brought them up. Neither is any WR close to that in this draft... However I do agree he doesn’t get many balls in traffic. One, I think his ball skills are underdeveloped to this point and two, he’s always dusting dudes so there’s not many opportunities.

I was going to say that. if you're looking for examples of guys playing balls in traffic don't watch Alabama, or Clemson, or OU etc because generally speaking on every play they have someone wide open. I'm not a huge Tua fan I think he has issues and I think his lack of arm strength actually limited the vertical game for Alabama at times(if you watch highlight reels on all of their WR's you will see them again and and again slowing up on deep balls where they're behind the defense but the ball is underthrown), but the thing Tua did better than anybody in college the last 2 years IMO was figure out which guy was open and get him the ball. So when you have 4 future NFL Wr's on your roster playing with Tua, you're not going to see lots of amazing jumping catches in a crowd you're going to see him find the open guy.

Just google Jerry Jeudy route running there's literally one video after another of him juking guys on routes. My biggest issue with our Wr's the last 2 years is nobody gets separation, if the design of the play doesn't scheme them open the guy has to just outrun someone (Like Kirk agains TB this year) to get open. You watch any of those tapes on Jeudy and you see how often he is wide open before he's even 10 yards downfield because of his route.

I think he'd be our #1 WR from day 1 if we can draft him, I don't think he'll be there and I'm perfectly happy with defense with the first pick and someone else later on but I think JJ in this offense with this QB and this coach scheming up plays would be scary good.

 

[GatorAZ]

I was going to say that. if you're looking for examples of guys playing balls in traffic don't watch Alabama, or Clemson, or OU etc because generally speaking on every play they have someone wide open. I'm not a huge Tua fan I think he has issues and I think his lack of arm strength actually limited the vertical game for Alabama at times(if you watch highlight reels on all of their WR's you will see them again and and again slowing up on deep balls where they're behind the defense but the ball is underthrown), but the thing Tua did better than anybody in college the last 2 years IMO was figure out which guy was open and get him the ball. So when you have 4 future NFL Wr's on your roster playing with Tua, you're not going to see lots of amazing jumping catches in a crowd you're going to see him find the open guy.

Just google Jerry Jeudy route running there's literally one video after another of him juking guys on routes. My biggest issue with our Wr's the last 2 years is nobody gets separation, if the design of the play doesn't scheme them open the guy has to just outrun someone (Like Kirk agains TB this year) to get open. You watch any of those tapes on Jeudy and you see how often he is wide open before he's even 10 yards downfield because of his route.

I think he'd be our #1 WR from day 1 if we can draft him, I don't think he'll be there and I'm perfectly happy with defense with the first pick and someone else later on but I think JJ in this offense with this QB and this coach scheming up plays would be scary good.

I get why some would have pause about a WR that’s not a complete player right now. Our 3 youngest guys; Kirk, Isabella and Butler are supposed to be future cogs and they all have average hands/ball skills. Butler drops a lot of balls but brought down a fair share of tough catches. Kirk is probably that guy that gives you maybe 1k every other year but isn’t reliable.

WR’s coming out are so hard to judge... 17 WR’s have gone in the first rd since 2015 and only 4 have reached 1,000 yards so far:
Cooper (4x)
DJ Moore (1)
Mike Williams (1)
DeVante Parker (1)

The others drafted First Rd:
Kevin White
Will Fuller
Nelson Agholor
Breshad Perriman
Phillip Dorsett
Corey Coleman
Josh Doctson
Laquon Treadwell
Corey Davis
John Ross
Calvin Ridley (had a 10 TD year)
Hollywood Brown (rookie)
N’Keal Harry (rookie)

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1k guys drafted outside the first rd:
Kupp
Juju
AJ Brown
Sutton
Chark
Gallup
Godwin
Golladay
Thomas
Boyd

 

[AZman5103]

I would target Micheal Pittman Jr in the 2nd round. He is a big WR1 type with decent speed, physical play, and is a willing blocker. We don't have a WR with his skillset on the roster outside of Fitz.

We give Butler, Isabella, and Johnson a chance to improve and grow in the offeseason, and hopefully could have a solid 4 WR set of Pittman, Butler, Isabella, and Kirk going forward? Maybe none of them are superstars, but I think they can all be pretty darn good if we play to their strengths.

Pittman could possibly be around later in round 2, or early round 3 as well...but I doubt it. Plus, his dad was a great player here and we respected his toughness.

Isiah Simmons, Michael Pittman Jr, Lucas Niang.....first 2 days of the draft.

We get drastically better at 3 positions of need, draft 3 starters, and improve in areas that will be very hard to address in FA because of a lack of talent.

Spend significant FA money on the D-Line and we make a big improvement next year.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

So far we have he’s not Julio or Barry when nobody brought them up. Neither is any WR close to that in this draft... However I do agree he doesn’t get many balls in traffic. One, I think his ball skills are underdeveloped to this point and two, he’s always dusting dudes so there’s not many opportunities.

I’m bringing them up bc I don’t see what single element of his makes him special. Note I’m not saying he isn’t good. I’m saying I don’t see what makes him better than Ridley or amari. And if we are taking him 8 I want better than those dudes.

 

[SoonerLou]

Matt Millers 3 round mock

The Pick: WR CeeDee Lamb, Oklahoma

The torch can be passed from Larry Fitzgerald to CeeDee Lamb on draft day as the Arizona Cardinals select a new WR1 who has experience with the scheme head coach Kliff Kingsbury is running and a familiarity with quarterback Kyler Murray. There isn’t a better match for a wide receiver in this class than Lamb to Arizona.

For the Cardinals, it could be tempting to take the first offensive tackle in the draft here, but it remains to be seen how much general manager Steve Keim and the head coach will value offensive linemen early in the draft. They could instead rely on Murray’s athleticism and a quick passing attack to mitigate pass-rushers.

Lamb won’t blow anyone away with his testing times at the NFL Scouting Combine, but his tape is clearly special thanks to his physicality, catch radius body control.

40. Cardinals: Creed Humphrey, IOL, Oklahoma

72. Cardinals: Raekwon Davis, IDL, Alabama
https://bleacherreport.com/articles...ular-season-predictions?share=twitter#slide34

 

[Dr. Jones]

CeeDee compares to Boldin & Reggie Wayne in many ways. Dominant RAC and catching ability.

Jeudy is a freak of quickness and timing. Think Marvin Harrison timing timing and quickness partnered with Torry Holt level route consistency.

Jeudy is worth a top 10 pick IMO. CeeDee is more of a 10 to 14 pick. Ruggs, Shenault, & Higgins are all 15 to 25 range.

 

[Dr. Jones]

Matt Millers 3 round mock

The Pick: WR CeeDee Lamb, Oklahoma

The torch can be passed from Larry Fitzgerald to CeeDee Lamb on draft day as the Arizona Cardinals select a new WR1 who has experience with the scheme head coach Kliff Kingsbury is running and a familiarity with quarterback Kyler Murray. There isn’t a better match for a wide receiver in this class than Lamb to Arizona.

For the Cardinals, it could be tempting to take the first offensive tackle in the draft here, but it remains to be seen how much general manager Steve Keim and the head coach will value offensive linemen early in the draft. They could instead rely on Murray’s athleticism and a quick passing attack to mitigate pass-rushers.

Lamb won’t blow anyone away with his testing times at the NFL Scouting Combine, but his tape is clearly special thanks to his physicality, catch radius body control.

40. Cardinals: Creed Humphrey, IOL, Oklahoma

72. Cardinals: Raekwon Davis, IDL, Alabama
https://bleacherreport.com/articles...ular-season-predictions?share=twitter#slide34

I would be in love with this draft. Literally IN LOVE

I probably would prefer Simmons or Thomas though to CeeDee at this point. I keep thinking about the comment about simmons in this little write up:

When the Jaguars head to the first round of the 2020 NFL draft, the front office should be thinking about adding a playmaker on defense to pair with Myles Jack and give the team an answer to the speed at quarterback and tight end taking over the NFL.

this is what Keim needs to be thinking about. Especially with Kittle, Russ, & company 6 times a year. We need SPEED and Agility all over the place.

Hicks, Simmons, & Budda give us that.

 

[Harry]

Scheme fit?

He looks like a 4-3 DE to me. His primary move is an outside loop, but he can adjust inside. He’s strong, but doesn’t have a great first step. He can anchor the end on 4-3, but his agility in 3-4 would be an issue IMO. With the right team he’s a player.

 

[TheCardFan]

I can't help but believe that some on our board are underestimating Jeudy. K1/Jeudy combo could be lethal for the next decade. I need to watch more tape of him. My Alabama contacts think VERY highly of him & I don't believe there are any headcase or off the field issues either. But, Alabama people do tend to over value their own. Unless, of course, you get the scoop directly from Saban. He's brutally honest when it comes to off the field or personality related issues.

December 30, 2019 - 9:14 pm
Tide’s Saban says only one Bama player top 15 prospect … Interesting story from this week’s Citrus Bowl where Alabama head coach Nick Saban said he has received draft grades from most NFL teams on the program’s draft-eligible underclassmen and that only junior QB Tua Tagovailoa received a grade higher than top 15 pick. In indicating that his injured QB, who won’t be playing in the Citrus Bowl against Michigan, was the only player to be graded in the top half of the first round, Saban dropped a hint that the NFL’s evaluation of some of Alabama’s other top prospects, most notably junior WR Jerry Jeudy might not be as high as that among the draft community. Of course, Saban could also be just trying to motivate his guys, who didn’t make the CFP playoffs for the 1st time in what seems like forever this year, prior to their bowl date with Michigan. For the record, the GBN has Jeudy rated as the 11th overall prospect on the GBN Big Board.

 

[Russ Smith]

December 30, 2019 - 9:14 pm
Tide’s Saban says only one Bama player top 15 prospect … Interesting story from this week’s Citrus Bowl where Alabama head coach Nick Saban said he has received draft grades from most NFL teams on the program’s draft-eligible underclassmen and that only junior QB Tua Tagovailoa received a grade higher than top 15 pick. In indicating that his injured QB, who won’t be playing in the Citrus Bowl against Michigan, was the only player to be graded in the top half of the first round, Saban dropped a hint that the NFL’s evaluation of some of Alabama’s other top prospects, most notably junior WR Jerry Jeudy might not be as high as that among the draft community. Of course, Saban could also be just trying to motivate his guys, who didn’t make the CFP playoffs for the 1st time in what seems like forever this year, prior to their bowl date with Michigan. For the record, the GBN has Jeudy rated as the 11th overall prospect on the GBN Big Board.

Interesting but if there are 15 better prospects than Jeudy in this draft then we're going to clean up on draft day.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Right now, I'm leaning Ceedee Lamb.

My reasoning? The biggest hole on the entire roster is a WR that can get open on his own or can routinely catch contested balls.

When you watch this years tape you see Lamb beat people with speed/route running AND you see him make contested catches.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

Right now, I'm leaning Ceedee Lamb.

My reasoning? The biggest hole on the entire roster is a WR that can get open on his own or can routinely catch contested balls.

When you watch this years tape you see Lamb beat people with speed/route running AND you see him make contested catches.

Yep and is then a beast once he has made the catch. Mixed with his familiarity of the offense and K1 it just seems like a perfect match.

 

[Solar7]

Right now, I'm leaning Ceedee Lamb.

My reasoning? The biggest hole on the entire roster is a WR that can get open on his own or can routinely catch contested balls.

When you watch this years tape you see Lamb beat people with speed/route running AND you see him make contested catches.

If I'm picking between the two, I'm with you. Ceedee pops on tape. Familiarity with the overall offense and Kyler can't hurt.

If we can solve our other issues in FA, I'd like it.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

December 30, 2019 - 9:14 pm
Tide’s Saban says only one Bama player top 15 prospect … Interesting story from this week’s Citrus Bowl where Alabama head coach Nick Saban said he has received draft grades from most NFL teams on the program’s draft-eligible underclassmen and that only junior QB Tua Tagovailoa received a grade higher than top 15 pick. In indicating that his injured QB, who won’t be playing in the Citrus Bowl against Michigan, was the only player to be graded in the top half of the first round, Saban dropped a hint that the NFL’s evaluation of some of Alabama’s other top prospects, most notably junior WR Jerry Jeudy might not be as high as that among the draft community. Of course, Saban could also be just trying to motivate his guys, who didn’t make the CFP playoffs for the 1st time in what seems like forever this year, prior to their bowl date with Michigan. For the record, the GBN has Jeudy rated as the 11th overall prospect on the GBN Big Board.

Hmm this jibes with my concern about Jeudy

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Interesting but if there are 15 better prospects than Jeudy in this draft then we're going to clean up on draft day.

Bluto

 

[Russ Smith]

Right now, I'm leaning Ceedee Lamb.

My reasoning? The biggest hole on the entire roster is a WR that can get open on his own or can routinely catch contested balls.

When you watch this years tape you see Lamb beat people with speed/route running AND you see him make contested catches.

I'll take either one. My take is Jeudy is faster and runs better routes, but you may be right about Lambs ability on contested balls there's just not much to see there on Jeudy because someone is open on damn near every play so not much contested balls for Alabama Wr's.

They're both really good after the catch which is huge in our offense since we like to throw quickly and get RAC.

 

[Russ Smith]

Another guy that really intrigues me again is Jalen Reagor from TCU. If the Cards get into a situation where a trade down is there and the guy they wanted isn't there at 8 you can make an argument for moving down and taking someone like Reagor who isn't as overall good as the other guys but is an elite deep threat guy, IMO a better John Brown, and who if not for Henry Ruggs might be the fastest WR in the draft.

Everything I read says he won't last into the 2nd round.