WK 4-Arizona Cardinals @ LA Rams Pre Game Thread Sept 27 - Oct 2, 2021

[HammerCards]

You'd think we were 0-3 with the comments here! 3.5 point spread in LA tells me all I need to know. Little positivity wouldn't kill ya!

Gonna be a good one. Measuring stick. Go Cards!

 

[Ronin]

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[Cheesebeef]

You'd think we were 0-3 with the comments here! 3.5 point spread in LA tells me all I need to know. Little positivity wouldn't kill ya!

Gonna be a good one. Measuring stick. Go Cards!

eh... I'm still expecting us to beat SF next week and go to 4-1. I just think the Rams are a terrible matchup for us and will continue to until I actually see otherwise.

 

[WakeForestCard]

That Rams -3.5 seems like a no brainer.

I've learned that when a spread seems like a no brainer - I'm usually on the wrong end of it. Or maybe it's just when I actually bet it.

 

[Shane]

I've learned that when a spread seems like a no brainer - I'm usually on the wrong end of it. Or maybe it's just when I actually bet it.

I took the Rams at 6 and I’m still confident

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

I think the line started out at 6.5. People must be betting the cards hard if it’s down to 3.5.

 

[Proximo]

I think the line started out at 6.5. People must be betting the cards hard if it’s down to 3.5.

seems like it is back to 4.

when you consider this is a rams home game, and the home team gets 3, it's pretty shocking Rams would only be favored by 1 on a neutral field.

 

[JosiahLee]

Really? Which ones?
Prisco & CBS have the Cardinals at #2
USA Today has the Cardinals at #5
SportsNaut has the Cardinals at #5
NumberFire has the Cardinals at #6
ESPN has the Cardinals at #7
Sagarin has the Cardinals at #7
TeamRankings has the Cardinals at #9
Five Thirty Eight has the Cards at #10

You must've searched desperately to find a ranking where the Cardinals were outside of the top 10. Great job!

...dave

Good research. I totally recant on this. I was disappointed looking at some power rankings after the first couple of games and seeing where they had the Cards. But I was obviously looking at these prior to the most updated rankings because they are mostly universally top 10 as of today.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

That Rams -3.5 seems like a no brainer.

This

 

[daves]

Good research. I totally recant on this. I was disappointed looking at some power rankings after the first couple of games and seeing where they had the Cards. But I was obviously looking at these prior to the most updated rankings because they are mostly universally top 10 as of today.

Yep the Cards started out in the teens but have been working their way up with each win... i was pretty shocked to see Prisco put them at #2, but they're in the top 10 in all the subjective and analytical rankings i've found. ... Which means nothing at this point, but it's still nice to see!

...dave

 

[daves]

seems like it is back to 4.

when you consider this is a rams home game, and the home team gets 3, it's pretty shocking Rams would only be favored by 1 on a neutral field.

The old belief that "the home team gets 3 points" from the oddsmakers is very outdated - check my posts from a few months ago:

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TL;DR:
In 2019, away teams actually outscored home teams, 5837-5831 (though home teams won 133 games vs. 122, with one tie). The betting line was -2.0.

And in 2020, a year with even further diminished HFA, home teams were again outscored 6351-6350, with a losing 125-130-1 record, while the betting line fell to -1.2.

So far this season, home teams are 24-24, scoring just under 1 point per game more than visitors. To the extent that the betting public is naïve to how things have changed over the last couple of decades, resulting in more money coming in on the side of home teams, oddsmakers might shade the line a bit - but here's a chart that shows how oddsmakers have set the line over the last 40+ years. 2008 was the last year when home teams were favored by close to 3 points:

...dave

 

[Proximo]

This

Well, I personally would only take the bet at -2.5. But I won't do it, because I won't bet against the Cards.

 

[Shane]

Well, I personally would only take the bet at -2.5. But I won't do it, because I won't bet against the Cards.

I bet against them and it’s the only time I’m not mad when I lose money....

 

[Corbin]

Whats going on Gents? Rams fan here and excited for our game against you this Sunday! I’m curious to see how banged up your o-line is for the game. I’m a huge fan of Zaven and wanted him to fall by some miracle to us in the draft! Lol

I’ve been going to Cardinal vs Ram games in PHX since the ASU stadium days. I liked it better then! Big cheap beers! Lol I been wearing my Warner Rams jersey to your games as it seems most Cardinal fans are forgiving since it’s a Kurt jersey!

I see a lot of good takes here from some of you, and some…. Well…. Let me share whatever you are smoking! Lol Good luck and hope I hope no injuries for either side!

 

[Cheesebeef]

I bet against them and it’s the only time I’m not mad when I lose money....

yup. it's kind of a way to hedge your sunday sometimes.

and even though I thought that -3.5 was very tasty, I'm still pretty excited for the game to see how we measure up.

 

[Mainstreet]

Well, I personally would only take the bet at -2.5. But I won't do it, because I won't bet against the Cards.

This is one of the reasons I don't bet. I will never bet against a team I support.

Speaking personally, it takes the fun out of sports. JMHO

I'm not talking about an office type thing.

 

[slanidrac16]

Whats going on Gents? Rams fan here and excited for our game against you this Sunday! I’m curious to see how banged up your o-line is for the game. I’m a huge fan of Zaven and wanted him to fall by some miracle to us in the draft! Lol

I’ve been going to Cardinal vs Ram games in PHX since the ASU stadium days. I liked it better then! Big cheap beers! Lol I been wearing my Warner Rams jersey to your games as it seems most Cardinal fans are forgiving since it’s a Kurt jersey!

I see a lot of good takes here from some of you, and some…. Well…. Let me share whatever you are smoking! Lol Good luck and hope I hope no injuries for either side!

Welcome. Many of us don’t feel to confident about this game, mainly because of history. Kyler’s a year older, we added some weapons and bulked up our lines.
I don’t think you will slaughter us and if you guys don’t play your “A” game and we do, well then we’ll be in it till the end.

 

[Dr. Jones]

I have a real bad feeling. I'm going to be shocked if its close

This. I just have zero confidence in Kliff to inspire a 3-0 team to victory. This team usually gets super complacent and that's what I expect to see this weekend. An unprepared, egg laying farce.

 

[Red on White]

I'm impressed that DeAndre Hopkins knew where the practice field was

 

[oaken1]

This. I just have zero confidence in Kliff to inspire a 3-0 team to victory. This team usually gets super complacent and that's what I expect to see this weekend. An unprepared, egg laying farce.

Kliff shouldn’t have too. They’re not just professionals they are competitors.... beating the Rams should be something every one of them is highly motivated to do.

 

[WisconsinCard]

Omg, shades of YA Tittle...

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Hey isn't that you in the front row. Man you get around pretty good for an old man.... I kill me...

 

[WisconsinCard]

This is one of the reasons I don't bet. I will never bet against a team I support.

Speaking personally, it takes the fun out of sports. JMHO

I'm not talking about an office type thing.

Oh I will and will openly root against my money. I would rather we win and my money goes bye bye. I've spent more on stupider things.

 

[Shane]

Oh I will and will openly root against my money. I would rather we win and my money goes bye bye. I've spent more on stupider things.

100% When I bet on the Cardinals to lose and they win it is truly the only time that I don’t mind. I’ve never been angry about it ever. I just revel in the win and Call it a day.... it’s a win-win if the Cardinals win I’m good if I win my money I’m good but still feel like **** the rest of the day so the money helps. Lol

 

[BullheadCardFan]

Cardinals at Rams

Three Cardinals offensive linemen — T Kelvin Beachum (ribs), T Justin Murray (back), and G Justin Pugh (back) — are listed as questionable. RB Eno Benjamin (hamstring) will not play.

Rams RB Darrell Henderson (ribs) is listed as questionable, but head coach Sean McVay said he will play on Sunday. WR Tutu Atwell (illness) is also listed as questionable.

 

[AustrianCardFan]

Did we get any news about Phillips and his availability?