wolfley calls out Rob Ryan

[joeshmo]

I think Wolfey's issue is Preseason is a time to test talent not schemes...

I think Whiz's attitude is great about the whole thing.

How can you test your talent unless you test them in your schemes?

If preseason isnt time to test your schemes when is it?

Very lame article by Wolf.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

How can you test your talent unless you test them in your schemes?

If preseason isnt time to test your schemes when is it?

Very lame article by Wolf.

 

[D-Dogg]

a) So what? He forced our guys to scramble and adjust on the fly and we didn't crumble and eventually torched it for a long TD? Sounds like we owe Rob Ryan a thank you, then. Helped us improve.

b) I really like the layout of that picture blog thing, with the photos and captions underneath.

 

[football karma]

Switching to a 4-6 usually doesn't bring much added pressure to the offensive line though. There may be only one player from the 6 DBs that might blitz, if none at all. You usually have to be aware of zone packages, and that has more to do with the QB, than the offensive line.

the old Buddy Ryan 46 D is all about pressure. You have 8 guys within 2 yards of the line of scrimmage -- all of which are going pretty much upfield at the snap

I guess it comes down to this -- Wolf describes the 46D as a (now) rarely used specialty scheme and implies that Ryan rolled it out on the first possession simply to gain some sort of advantage, knowing that the Cards wouldnt have prepared for it. Whether it was to create some big play on the first series in the home opener, or simply to "stick it" to the Cards. It does fit with the pregame quote from Ryan on his special motivation in playing the Cards.

If Wolf is wrong in that the 46 look is the base, or a commonly used part of the Raiders package, then Wolf is off base.

Again, Wis shrugged it off, but also acknowledged that the look wasnt something that they expected to see.

 

[PortlandCardFan]

How can you test your talent unless you test them in your schemes?

If preseason isnt time to test your schemes when is it?

Very lame article by Wolf.

Which is why I thought Whiz handled it well.


I still like the fact Wolfey called him a Richard!!!

 

[Mulli]

If he is a Richard, Wolfley is a Steve.....Steve.

 

[PortlandCardFan]

If he is a Richard, Wolfley is a Steve.....Steve.

Quit being such a Mulli!!!

 

[dreamcastrocks]

If he is a Richard, Wolfley is a Delilah......

ftfy

 

[D-Dogg]

If he is a Richard, Wolfley is a Steve.....Steve.

Judges would also have accepted:

Where'd Wolfley get that preposterous hypothesis, was it Steve perchance? Steeeve. :shakesfist:

 

[Mulli]

Judges would also have accepted:

Who would have thought that the words Delilah, Steve, and perchance would be so funny to me?

 

[ActingWild]

I'm siding with Wolfley on this one. Rob's intentions were to stick it to the Cardinals. Preseason is not about winning games, it's about judging talent, which is why most defenses that are ran are very vanilla. Coaches want to see their players stepping up and making plays, not their schemes confusing the opposition. Regardless of the benefits it gives us in thinking on our feet, it doesn't change that Ryan's intentions make him a Richard.

If some jerk tried to take a sucker punch at you, but you ducked and he broke his hand on the wall behind you, you'd have learned not to turn your back on jerks and to react quickly when a fist is flying at your face plus you'd get the joy of seeing his scheme back fire on himself. However, that doesn't change the fact that the guy throwing the sucker punch is still a jerk.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

I'm siding with Wolfley on this one. Rob's intentions were to stick it to the Cardinals. Preseason is not about winning games, it's about judging talent, which is why most defenses that are ran are very vanilla. Coaches want to see their players stepping up and making plays, not their schemes confusing the opposition. Regardless of the benefits it gives us in thinking on our feet, it doesn't change that Ryan's intentions make him a Richard.

If some jerk tried to take a sucker punch at you, but you ducked and he broke his hand on the wall behind you, you'd have learned not to turn your back on jerks and to react quickly when a fist is flying at your face plus you'd get the joy of seeing his scheme back fire on himself. However, that doesn't change the fact that the guy throwing the sucker punch is still a jerk.

Huh? It is not like he tried to cheapshot one of our players. I think that Wolfley is way offbase here. I don't care if they blitzed all 11 guys. This game is all about adjustments, and the Cards will be better because of it.

Wolfley is acting like a prima.

 

[RonF]

Okay, I'' ask, What's a Richard?" for those of us from a previous generation or more. I don't know if I'm supposed to smile or be angry because of what Wolf or Hardy or whatever his name is, said.

 

[D-Dogg]

Okay, I'' ask, What's a Richard?" for those of us from a previous generation or more. I don't know if I'm supposed to smile or be angry because of what Wolf or Hardy or whatever his name is, said.

A Dick.

My middle name is Richard. That's right, Dick is my middle name.

 

[PortlandCardFan]

Okay, I'' ask, What's a Richard?" for those of us from a previous generation or more. I don't know if I'm supposed to smile or be angry because of what Wolf or Hardy or whatever his name is, said.

Not sure if you are joking but here it goes..

Richardhead... now replace Richard with an appropriate nickname.

 

[RonF]

I had to ask, now I know.

 

[redheat]

I agree with wolfley. Running a D that they never use to force us to pass when he knows we want to try our run game is so richard. Good job on wiz on making an adjustment. No sense in running our HB's into a wall.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

I agree with wolfley. Running a D that they never use to force us to pass when he knows we want to try our run game is so richard. Good job on wiz on making an adjustment. No sense in running our HB's into a wall.

Huh? If you knew with certainty that the team is going to run, why not rush every available guy.

What's next? Is Wolfley going to go on another tirade when Matt Leinart calls an audible?

 

[AZCB34]

I agree with wolfley. Running a D that they never use to force us to pass when he knows we want to try our run game is so richard. Good job on wiz on making an adjustment. No sense in running our HB's into a wall.

Huh? Oakland never uses the 46 defense? You may want to watch a little more Oakland football games if you think they "never" use the 46. At it's heart and soul, the Oakland defense is a 46 style defense. They do not ALWAYS play that set but it is built heavily into their scheme and their play calling. Besides, even if they never use it, there are going to be times where an oposing defense does something completely unexpected and has to be dealt with.

I am not going to listen to an archive but if Whisenhunt was whining about the defense his team had to run against because it was the first preseason game, then one has to wonder what kind of HC he will ultimately be.

Whisenhunt should understand that the standard NFL preseason stuff no longer applies:

1. Teams do not have nearly as physical practices as they once did.

2. The old notion that teams do not blitz in preseason has gone out the window as the preseason games now take the place of the missing contact (scrimmages) so teams have to work out the kinks of their blitz packages (among other things) away from the practice fields.

3. The overall vanilla-ness of preseason football is gone and it is refreshing for a coaching staff, especially a new staff like the Cards have, to have to think on the fly and make quick adjustments like Whisenhunt had to. He should embrace that fact instead of complaining about what Ryan did in the first preseason game (assuming he was complaining about it on the archive).

 

[crisper57]

Huh? Oakland never uses the 46 defense? You may want to watch a little more Oakland football games if you think they "never" use the 46. At it's heart and soul, the Oakland defense is a 46 style defense. They do not ALWAYS play that set but it is built heavily into their scheme and their play calling. Besides, even if they never use it, there are going to be times where an oposing defense does something completely unexpected and has to be dealt with.

I am not going to listen to an archive but if Whisenhunt was whining about the defense his team had to run against because it was the first preseason game, then one has to wonder what kind of HC he will ultimately be.

Whisenhunt should understand that the standard NFL preseason stuff no longer applies:

1. Teams do not have nearly as physical practices as they once did.

2. The old notion that teams do not blitz in preseason has gone out the window as the preseason games now take the place of the missing contact (scrimmages) so teams have to work out the kinks of their blitz packages (among other things) away from the practice fields.

3. The overall vanilla-ness of preseason football is gone and it is refreshing for a coaching staff, especially a new staff like the Cards have, to have to think on the fly and make quick adjustments like Whisenhunt had to. He should embrace that fact instead of complaining about what Ryan did in the first preseason game (assuming he was complaining about it on the archive).

Maybe you should listen to the interview. Whiz was not whining. Wolf asked the question if Ryan's scheming was an "up yours" moment. Whiz said the line made the adjustments and now they know how to block the 46. He said he used it as a learning tool. No whining. He may have been irked, but his response did not show it.

 

[AZCB34]

Maybe you should listen to the interview. Whiz was not whining. Wolf asked the question if Ryan's scheming was an "up yours" moment. Whiz said the line made the adjustments and now they know how to block the 46. He said he used it as a learning tool. No whining. He may have been irked, but his response did not show it.

As long as he wasn't whining about it...fine. I have no desire to listen to the archive because I really have a difficult time listening to Wolfley. As long as Whisenhunt says he used it as a learning tool, then all is good from there.

As for the rest, I stand by the fact that Wolfley's little rant or whatever it was is about the lamest thing I have seen in some time.

 

[Sweetnon]

I will always be grateful to Buddy Ryan, It was raining so bad in the Bay Area he let the 49ers train in Arizona for the championship game against Dallas in 94 and we won.

 

[cardsfanmd]

I will always be grateful to Buddy Ryan, It was raining so bad in the Bay Area he let the 49ers train in Arizona for the championship game against Dallas in 94 and we won.

San Franciscan for vagina

 

[ANDY440]

I will always be grateful to Buddy Ryan, It was raining so bad in the Bay Area he let the 49ers train in Arizona for the championship game against Dallas in 94 and we won.

I doubt it was Buddy's call.Thank Bill Bidwill.

 

[Duckjake]

I doubt it was Buddy's call.Thank Bill Bidwill.

Mr. Bidwill has always done whatever he can to help other teams win.