Wolves @ Suns

[Andrew]

We trade Amare, we SUCK so hard lol.

 

[Bayless2Budinger]

Why is it "trade amare" every time the Suns lose?

Because this board is full of fickle fans. Amare and Barbosa are scapegoat 1a and 1b.

 

[Ciani]

No backup PG that can play?

Even if he is not a real point guard Barbosa was playing good enough as the backup PG, five more minutes for him would not have hurt the team imo.

 

[Blackification]

Lol @ people still complaining about Amar'e when Barnes has messed up with stupid fouls two games in a row at important times and Nash has gotten bad turnovers in crucial moments in back to back games. But still we see trade Amar'e.

 

[Andrew]

Nash: "We didn't deserve to win tonight."

 

[elindholm]

Lol @ people still complaining about Amar'e when Barnes has messed up with stupid fouls two games in a row at important times and Nash has gotten bad turnovers in crucial moments in back to back games. But still we see trade Amar'e.

Well duh. Stoudemire has trade value; Barnes doesn't. Wanting to trade someone is about wanting what you'll get in return. No one's going to give up anything for Barnes, but Stoudemire's trade value is still high, if the Suns act fast.

 

[Blackification]

Well duh. Stoudemire has trade value; Barnes doesn't. Wanting to trade someone is about wanting what you'll get in return. No one's going to give up anything for Barnes, but Stoudemire's trade value is still high, if the Suns act fast.

Suns already tried trading him, failed, and then traded Bell and Diaw. They might try again but if they do and don't fail in trading him this time and act like they got what they wanted even though they probably won't, they will fail later in the playoffs. This management sets this team up for failure.

 

[Andrew]

You think we would be better without Amare? I mean come on, really think about that.

 

[Andrew]

The trade for Richardson didn't fail, this is just 2 losses and as bas as this sounds, we are still in the playoffs. Tonight's loss was hard, but this team isn't done.

 

[Blackification]

The trade for Richardson didn't fail, this is just 2 losses and as bas as this sounds, we are still in the playoffs. Tonight's loss was hard, but this team isn't done.

I meant failed by trying to trade Amar'e I remember I read they put him on the trading block and Kerr got nothing close to what he wanted and quickly took him off and then started the Bell and Diaw trade.

 

[Andrew]

Did Kerr really do that?

 

[Mainstreet]

You think we would be better without Amare? I mean come on, really think about that.

IMO, Elindholm is right. The Suns have to trade value to get value. Amare is not a dominant player that can carry the Suns to the promised land or eventually rebuild around.

 

[elindholm]

You think we would be better without Amare? I mean come on, really think about that.

Unfortunately, someone quoted this, so I accidentally read it.

Maybe you should try thinking about it yourself. No one is suggesting deleting Stoudemire from the roster and leaving an empty slot. Just spend a little bit of time considering what other teams might give up for him, and then think about how those players would fit with the current Suns. For example, the Nuggets recently traded Iverson for Billups, and look what happened.

 

[Wonder]

82 games a season

9-5 with richardson

3 of those losses, well you know how they go.

Even minny tonight, that no-call on love was bad. Every possession matters, especiallly near the end and that should have been a call. Shouldacouldawoulda, it's a tough break.

82 games a season. Let's get 4-6 wins on this road trip.

 

[Andrew]

I can't think about it, I mean Amare is our 1b option

 

[Andrew]

Anyone wanna hold me on we win the next 3 games lol?

 

[CaptainInsano]

It is going to be the same thing elindholm, these people and management will hold onto amare until we lose to the spurs in the playoffs AGAIN and that is IF we make the playoffs.

Then we get the least amount of value for him. Amazing how suns fans are making the same mistake twice. No, not really amazing, more like disgusting.

We need to establish that this team at best is a #6 seed, the spurs will probably be a #3 seed then. How wonderful. Just fabulous. I will not watch that matchup this time, fool me 3 times is enough.

I would rather have a better draft pick if the other option is having to look forward to another low seed loss to the spurs in the playoffs again. Please god no. We couldn't beat them with a higher seed, we will NEVER beat them with a lower seed unless we are a much superior team primarily consisting of very strong depth.

The only other option I guess if push comes to shove of doing a deal just in desperation is maybe we could try some crazy barbosa for camby deal. That takes pressure off of shaq on the interior and we could play barnes more as a SG and hill more as a PG.

It sucks to lose barbosa because he is loyal to the suns, but right now it is do or die time.

 

[Andrew]

It's not do or die time yet, save that for after the All-Star break...get a grip

 

[elindholm]

It is going to be the same thing elindholm, these people and management will hold onto amare until we lose to the spurs in the playoffs AGAIN and that is IF we make the playoffs. Then we get the least amount of value for him.

I agree.

Amazing how suns fans are making the same mistake twice. No, not really amazing, more like disgusting.

Mistake the fans are making? You mean management, right?

We need to establish that this team at best is a #6 seed, the spurs will probably be a #3 seed then.

Nah, it will be the 2/7 matchup.

I would rather have a better draft pick if the other option is having to look forward to another low seed loss to the spurs in the playoffs again.

The higher draft pick wouldn't appeal to me, because the Suns can't draft anymore. But it would be nice to have some young talent to starting developing. It's not like Stoudemire or Barbosa are building blocks for the future, even if they stick around. And as for the recent draft picks, I assume their failure goes without saying.

 

[AceP]

If the Amare for Rasheed + Stuckey deal is still on the table, I wouldn't hesitate a second to pull the trigger. But I'm afraid Stuckey is marked as "NOT TRADABLE - Unless for James or Wade" now.

Piston has just hammered by the Thunders, they r no longer in the top 4 in the east, so they should be willing to make more deals for future. Just I don't see an obvious trading plan. Maybe Amare + Barbosa + filler for Rasheed + Prince?

The Nash to Toronto rumor can work on paper, but it won't help us win this season, no at all. It takes a lot of time to incoporate a new PG. I'm not even sure Calderon is going to be better than Nash.

 

[Mainstreet]

If the Suns open the road trip with a loss to Toronto, they could well crash and burn. The Western Conference is tough and the Suns presently sit at the 8th seed. I do not see Dallas remaining a 9th seed. I know in the loss column the race is still close, but the Suns cannot afford many stumbles on their upcoming road trip.

 

[Andrew]

I think we are better than Portland, Houston and Dallas.

Portland is young and not experienced, they won't keep at their current pace.

Whole lotta things wrong with Houston.

Dallas is without Howard and just made a desperate trade.

 

[Mainstreet]

I think we are better than Portland, Houston and Dallas.

Portland is young and not experienced, they won't keep at their current pace.

Whole lotta things wrong with Houston.

Dallas is without Howard and just made a desperate trade.

It will be played out on the court but I am not liking the Suns lack of urgency when they play. Something is missing and I'm not sure if it can be corrected. The players are clearly frustrated.

 

[Andrew]

No team plays with a lack of urgency against the Timberwolves, they under estimated them, that is what this loss is a product of.

They played SO hard in Denver, it wasn't the normal rotation. That noncall could have gone our way and we might have won.

 

[mojorizen7]

Missed the game entirely so i can only look at the box score and assume:
Tired legs from Nash & Hill.(?)
A subpar game from JRich.(?)