Would you want P. Peterson if he is there @ #5?

[bornnraisedwhodat]

Hi guys. Im a big Mock Draft fan here. And I was wondering do you see you guys taking PP if he is there at #5. As a Louisianian, I watch a good bit of LSU. And I will tell you this, Patrick Peterson is a rare athlete that you will only come across every few years. Like Suh last year.

PP7 is not just a shut down corner, he is an all around football player and can excel at any position you put him in. He freakishly strong, and super fast, and super smart. You can put him at man-man CB, nickel, dime, free safety, strong safety, punt return, kick return, you name it. He even tried to play some offense at LSU but Les Miles didn't want to wear him out. I know you guys are not dying at DB, and I agree, QB or linebacker should be your focus....but I think anyone would be crazy to pass up on PP7. Years from now teams will wonder why did they pass on him. He will be Defensive ROY next year believe it.

And Im not an LSU homer or anything like that, Im just a guy that really appreciates great athleticism and talent. Are the Cardinals a "best player available" type of team or do they focus on positions of need?

 

[earthsci]

There are other really good players in this draft that would fit our "needs" better. That said, I would be quite satisfied with the Cards FO if they drafted Peterson.

 

[Stout]

I'm worried about drafting him. I think there will be better players available and that they fit our needs much more. The more I hear about PP, the more I think of Rolle. Too many mentions of 'may be moved to safety at some point'. No thanks.

 

[Pariah]

Depends on who else is there. If Bowers, Quinn or Miller is there, I'd rather have one of those guys. Peterson is probably #4 on my list....it's very close between he and Miller for me, I think.

 

[bornnraisedwhodat]

I'm worried about drafting him. I think there will be better players available and that they fit our needs much more. The more I hear about PP, the more I think of Rolle. Too many mentions of 'may be moved to safety at some point'. No thanks.

Dont get caught up in that. "Analyst" are so caught up in his size and physical frame, it screams safety, but the guy is a corner, and damn good one. You can get so creative with you defensive scheme with this guy. Have him play man to man CB on one down, move him down to nickel on the next down or blitz him, then the next play let him roam around like a safety and hunt the ball, then you can put him Punt return and he might take it home for you. Im telling you, the guy will make any team he is on better. But I understand you points. Honestly, it would be hard for me not to pick Von Miller also. Especially if you guys are really switching to a 3-4 base.

 

[AZCARDSFANATIC]

Depnds on who is availible, but If Miller is gone, and he is there grab him put him opposite DRC, move Toler to SS(he can tackle like a mad man) and slide Adub to OLB.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

Absolutely not. I love watching LSU games and I think he is a great college football player but will have a very difficult transition to the pros. He is a physical press corner and only the rarest of those succeed in the NFL.

He absolutely could be the second coming of Nnamdi Asomugha. He could also be the second coming of Antrel Rolle.

The Cardinals will have to get either a potential long term solution at QB in this draft or a defensive player who makes an immediate impact. I don't believe Peterson fills either of those requirements.

 

[D-Dogg]

Yes.

 

[AsUdUdE]

If he is there and Miller is not, I think you HAVE to take him... but if he AND Von Miller are there... at this point, I think for the Cardinals I would take Miller..

 

[Snakester]

Although I wouldn't mind if we took him, I would much rather have Von Miller. Peterson is not a great need for us. We need a QB, passrusher and O-line much worse.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

The pick will come down to Peterson or Miller. I'd take either. I prefer Peterson though. People need to stop with the Antrel Rolle comparison. Peterson is so much more of a freak athlete that it's not a good comparison at all.

 

[lobo]

The pick will come down to Peterson or Miller. I'd take either. I prefer Peterson though. People need to stop with the Antrel Rolle comparison. Peterson is so much more of a freak athlete that it's not a good comparison at all.

I am in the Miller camp BUT the great thing about Peterson from what I saw of him

can play any of the four positions...strong enough to play SS
can run punts back
can run kicks back
a very good hitter

 

[Stout]

Dont get caught up in that. "Analyst" are so caught up in his size and physical frame, it screams safety, but the guy is a corner, and damn good one. You can get so creative with you defensive scheme with this guy. Have him play man to man CB on one down, move him down to nickel on the next down or blitz him, then the next play let him roam around like a safety and hunt the ball, then you can put him Punt return and he might take it home for you. Im telling you, the guy will make any team he is on better. But I understand you points. Honestly, it would be hard for me not to pick Von Miller also. Especially if you guys are really switching to a 3-4 base.

Yes, but everyone was screaming that we had to stop listening to analysts about Rolle when we drafted him, and look where it got us.

The pick will come down to Peterson or Miller. I'd take either. I prefer Peterson though. People need to stop with the Antrel Rolle comparison. Peterson is so much more of a freak athlete that it's not a good comparison at all.

You could take Peterson out of that last sentence and insert Rolle, and it could have come from that past draft. It might be an unfair comparison, but the same concerns are being raised, as are the same defenses for that player. It just raises red flags to me.

 

[Unsterblich856]

If we're not getting it done with DRC and Toler, we're not going to get it done with DRC and Peterson. In a perfect world we could get a stud OLB in FA like Woodley, but this world sucks so we should be looking at Miller and Quinn first and foremost.

 

[Chopper0080]

Von Miller gets the nod due to need and the impact that a rusher can have, but Patrick Peterson will blow the combine up tomorrow and is more of a physical freak than Robert Quinn in my opinion.

Antrell Rolle was a good athlete, playing corner. Patrick Peterson is an exceptional corner, who is also an amazing athlete. Not to mention that he would also impact the return game while he is maturing as a CB. He is the 2nd best option at 5.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Yes, but everyone was screaming that we had to stop listening to analysts about Rolle when we drafted him, and look where it got us.



You could take Peterson out of that last sentence and insert Rolle, and it could have come from that past draft. It might be an unfair comparison, but the same concerns are being raised, as are the same defenses for that player. It just raises red flags to me.

PP is bigger,faster, and likley stronger than Rolle was. If Peterson runs a 4.25, which I doubt, I think he'll run in the low 4.3's, that's .2 faster than Rolle ran whihc is a pretty significant gap for a CB. DRC may be the fastest guy in the league and he ran 4.29, or something like that. Plus Peterson is a hitter and give a Devin Hester type threat reurning punts. For some reason, Rolle couldn't return punts very well but could INT's. That could be realted to the speed factor again. There aren't alot of 325 pound OL on the ST's.

 

[Duckjake]

PP is bigger,faster, and likley stronger than Rolle was. If Peterson runs a 4.25, which I doubt, I think he'll run in the low 4.3's, that's .2 faster than Rolle ran whihc is a pretty significant gap for a CB. DRC may be the fastest guy in the league and he ran 4.29, or something like that. Plus Peterson is a hitter and give a Devin Hester type threat reurning punts. For some reason, Rolle couldn't return punts very well but could INT's. That could be realted to the speed factor again. There aren't alot of 325 pound OL on the ST's.

Pretty good call by the Sports Illustrated folks:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2005/draft/players/56972.html

 

[THESMEL]

yeas and i would consider CB Prince A. over Miller too. They are both harder to find than Miller trying to bulk up to NFL weight at the popsition, with Dwash being on the light side too.

Miller is a pashrushing specialist, which we need. But we got ran over last year too. We need Hayes to get back 100% and then we have the engine to run Hortons train.

 

[ARZCardinals]

In 2010, he switched to playing as a 3–4 outside linebacker under Tim DeRuyter's defense. Early in the season, Miller suffered an ankle/foot injury, but soon recovered.[4] He posted 10.5 sacks and 17.5 tackles for loss.[7] He received his second first-team All-Big 12 honors,[8] and won the Butkus Award as the nation's top linebacker.[9] He was also named a consensus first-team All-American.[10] He received first team All-American honors from Walter Camp, Scout.com, Pro Football Weekly,[11] ESPN.com,[12] and the Associated Press.[13]

due to the Cardinals running the 3-4 defense...he's be the pick if he's there....no doubt if he's gone and pp7 is there they'd take him.

Cards board will have Von #1 and PP7 #2

 

[Totally_Red]

Yes!

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

He ran a 4.32 at 219 pounds. Very Nice.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

Pretty good call by the Sports Illustrated folks:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2005/draft/players/56972.html

NEGATIVES: Has difficulty in zone and misreads assignments. Hesitant reacting to receivers. moves off the line. Lacks the second gear and struggles running with receivers laterally.

ANALYSIS: A physically gifted defender, Rolle possesses early first round abilities. Predominantly a press cover cornerback, the inability to play backed off the line of scrimmage or in a zone situation could cause him to slip further in the draft than his skills would warrant.

While this was for Rolle, you could plug the same thing in for Peterson. Press Corners really struggle in the NFL.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

While this was for Rolle, you could plug the same thing in for Peterson. Press Corners really struggle in the NFL.

not always and Peterson is a rare talent. The fact that he's 20 pounds bigger, .2 faster, and just an overall better prospect puts alot of in his favor.

 

[kerouac9]

PP is bigger,faster, and likley stronger than Rolle was. If Peterson runs a 4.25, which I doubt, I think he'll run in the low 4.3's, that's .2 faster than Rolle ran whihc is a pretty significant gap for a CB. DRC may be the fastest guy in the league and he ran 4.29, or something like that. Plus Peterson is a hitter and give a Devin Hester type threat reurning punts. For some reason, Rolle couldn't return punts very well but could INT's. That could be realted to the speed factor again. There aren't alot of 325 pound OL on the ST's.

And Rolle refused to run at the Combine that year. He ran on the track at The U's pro day, which was running exceptionally fast even by NFL pro day standards. He ran essentially the bare minimum for a Top 10 cornerback.

 

[Matt L]

4.32 at 220 lbs?

I say draft him at #5 regardless of who else is there.

Even if he does move to safety, Adrian Wilson is not getting any younger.

This guy is a playmaker and can play at any of the DB positions. Everyone says that we don't have a "need" at defensive back however we only have 3 decent defensive backs in coverage (DRC, Toler, Rhodes) a few players who could be good but we don't really know, and a guy who really cannot cover anyone (Adrian Wilson).

In today's NFL, you need guys who can cover in order to win and this guy can cover. When we hired Horton, there was a post outlining the needs for the Steelers style 3-4 defense. What struck me was the post stated that there needs to be an athletic, smart defensive back like Troy Polamalua(?). I don't know if we have that player on our roster now. If I were making the pick, I would draft Patrick Peterson in the hopes that he can become that player.

To sum it up, I think he is too talented and too versatile to pass up.