WR2 options

[Bodha]

Same stuff was said in defense of TO and he did produce results.

Then whats the problem? The reason TO isnt getting picked up is hes old and injured, not because he cant play. Braylon is young. Production is production. He put up huge numbers in Cleveland before his injury.

All these thing you say about him are things youve gotten off the media. Youve never spoken to him or know anything about him. Who are you to call him this or that? I for one am open to giving the guy a second chance because hed be extremely valuable if it worked out.

 

[slanidrac16]

Anybody that says a #2 WR is not high on their list just ask yourself this........Where in the hell would we be if Fitz were to get hurt?

This team needs a WR. It is becoming more and more of a passing league. Look at the teams in the playoffs and look at their WR corp. The elite teams have more than one "very good" receiver.

A 1a type receiver across from Fitz would be a huge boost to this offense. That being said we should use free agency to acquire a WR. Robinson would be a bargain, Mike Wallace would be a dream.

 

[Divide Et Impera]

Does anyone really think that Robinson would be a "bargain"? I mean, that's almost like saying you could get Cruz at a "bargain". Both players broke out this year (Robinson less so than Cruz) and both would command big money. That said, Robinson is the type you spend big money on. He won't command #1 money yet, but the Cards should snatch him up if they could. Just my thoughts on that....

 

[Early]

I think we should draft Mohamed Sanu to play opposite Larry Fitzgerald. Roberts is suited much more as slot receiver than wideout and should be his natural position and Early fits in the slot as well, he was so great in converting 3rd downs this year, it could be a very good WR group.

He declared for the 2012 NFL draft:

http://www.scarletknights.com/football/news/release.asp?prID=11185#.TwQv0WDRe6g

Not to mention that we have more production out of the TE's now.

The major need is QB. We have the worst QB's in the league and that needs to change.

 

[Cardiac]

Then whats the problem? The reason TO isnt getting picked up is hes old and injured, not because he cant play. Braylon is young. Production is production. He put up huge numbers in Cleveland before his injury.

All these thing you say about him are things youve gotten off the media. Youve never spoken to him or know anything about him. Who are you to call him this or that? I for one am open to giving the guy a second chance because hed be extremely valuable if it worked out.

Why do you think teams kept getting rid of TO? He created drama on teams and had an overall negative impact. Players like TO can go on your fantasy team but are not worth it in real life.

My wife is a Jets fan so I watch a good number of their games. I have watched Edwards enough to see how talented he is but that he's just the opposite of Fitz. His attitude, focus, football IQ and overall effort is lacking on far too many plays. He will make some highlight plays but it's simply not worth it in the long run.

Why do you think Edwards had to settle for a 1 year offer from the 9ers this past offseason? It's more then just the media or myself that don't think he's worth the risk.

 

[Southpaw]

Draft U of Miami WR Tommy Streeter 2nd round ( oops ) make that 3rd round.

I still want Alshon Jeffry in 1st round.

 

[cardpa]

Many, many good UFA's are available including: Bowe, Garcon, Colston, Vince Jackson, Steve Johnson, Reggie Wayne, Mario Manningham, Robert Meachem, Eddie Royal, Mike Wallace & Wes Welker. Some will be resigned but the market is good for sure.

Of the players listed my number one target would be Garcon followed by Manningham. Don't dismiss Wallace since he is a Steeler and Whiz is our coach.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Not to mention that we have more production out of the TE's now.

That's a very good point. I think with an off season under his belt that Rob Housler will have an impact on the passing game next year.

I'm against taking a WR in round 1 only because the best he is going to be is the #2 WR on the team. Other than Atlanta, there isn't a team I can think of that has 2 top picks invested at WR.

 

[sportznutt]

Braylon drops too many passes. Give me Robinson.

Leave Roberts at WR3.

 

[Chopper0080]

In FA I like Robert Meachem, Laurent Robinson, and Harry Douglas. In the draft, I would love Chris Rainey (very similar ro Percy Harvin IMO) in the 4th round, but he might not fall that far.

 

[BigRedRage]

When you've got to convert a 3rd & anything and need a #2 WR you can absolutely trust, that's what we've gotta have.

There are guys out there - FA's, #1's, later picks, CFL etc. who fill the bill.

I don't care where we get him, but however our priorities and available talent happen to fall, we gotta get one of those.

doucet was rated top 10 in nfl chain moving recievers.

 

[seesred]

I also like Roberts at #3. Early has more ups than downs and plays the slot tough. That being said we do need a speed guy that can stretch the field. We do not have a burner on the team right now. Sampson and Williams are two posabilities on the team that might fit that spot. WR as far as need goes is below the Lineman, Cb unless Tolar comes back healthy. Imo A replacement for Adrian needs to be aquired and another pass rusher should be up there as a need!

GBR
40

 

[BigRedRage]

Doucet 6th in league on 3rd down yardage.

http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/post/_/id/58565/nfc-west-can-attest-to-cruz-in-clutch

 

[WarnerHOF]

Unless we are picking a WR in the first round or signing big name receiver like Vincent Jackson than anything else would be a lateral upgrade at best from Doucet and Roberts imo.

 

[cardpa]

When you consider how often this team trailed in games the stats don't surprise me especially when Skelton was the QB. That is the great thing about stats you can skew them any way you want. It doesn't necessarily mean Doucet was a great 3rd down receiver. All it means is the team trailed in a lot of games.

 

[JeffGollin]

FYI early was like top 3 in nfl with catches for 1st on 3rd down.

Let's drill down into that statistic.

It tells us that, compared to other NFL wideouts, he caught a lot of 3rd down passes that converted to 1st downs.

What it doesn't tell us is (a) how many times he was thrown to, (b) what percentage of those passes he caught and (c) the number of times (or percentage of throws) where he dropped catchable balls in key clutch situations.

I suspect that that original stat tells us that Doucet was relied upon heavily in clutch situations, but it doesn't necessarily mean he delivered often enough.

If we believe part of the job description is: "'Money' when it comes to hanging onto the ball in key situations", I'd like us to find at least one more receiver who can do better. (Note - I don't think that necessarily means a high profile dude - once upon a time before they were drafted, nobody knew very much about Wes Welker or Reggie Wayne or Cruz).

 

[RugbyMuffin]

If we believe part of the job description is: "'Money' when it comes to hanging onto the ball in key situations", I'd like us to find at least one more receiver who can do better. (Note - I don't think that necessarily means a high profile dude - once upon a time before they were drafted, nobody knew very much about Wes Welker or Reggie Wayne or Cruz).

Agreed.

Thus why I disagree with this "need for speed" and need for little quick WR. We need a big body, with good hands.

I would like the Cardinals to take a flyer on Mike Williams of Seattle, whom I doubt will be returning to the Seahawks next season. They guy is a huge WR at 6'5" & 235lbs.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Agreed.

Thus why I disagree with this "need for speed" and need for little quick WR. We need a big body, with good hands.

I would like the Cardinals to take a flyer on Mike Williams of Seattle, whom I doubt will be returning to the Seahawks next season. They guy is a huge WR at 6'5" & 235lbs.

I don't like Williams at all. I did coming out of college but I don't want to sign the only WR in the league that may be slower than Todd Heap .

I think a true deep-speed threat is needed. I know Fitz is our current deep threat but a true burner, to me, can do nothing but help open up the offense. Now if Housler comes through, he can open the defense by becoming a deep threat down the middle, but a legit option to the stretch the defense has been missing for years.

 

[BigRedRage]

I am not concerned with WR as I think we are so deep at TE that our main set should be 2 wr 2 te anyway and when a third WR is needed roberts / doucet are very servicable. If Heap can stay healthy him and king present problems. I wouldnt mind a speedier WR though for WR#2 but without it I think we are ok.

 

[Duckjake]

I am not concerned with WR as I think we are so deep at TE that our main set should be 2 wr 2 te anyway and when a third WR is needed roberts / doucet are very servicable. If Heap can stay healthy him and king present problems. I wouldnt mind a speedier WR though for WR#2 but without it I think we are ok.

I'd have to agree. I'm really interested in how the Cards plan to use Housler in the offense this fall. We all saw him getting open deep middle. A weapon the Cards haven't had in a while. Too bad the QBs kept missing him.

Jeff King was also a pleasant surprise. Originally thought of as a blocking TE he ended up with 27 catches and 3 TDs.

Our TEs had 65 receptions for around 700 yards and 4TDs in 2011 and that's with Heap missing 7 games and Housler 4. The Cards TEs had 72 combined 2008-2010. That's a huge change.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Draft U of Miami WR Tommy Streeter 2nd round ( oops ) make that 3rd round.

+1

 

[RugbyMuffin]

I don't like Williams at all. I did coming out of college but I don't want to sign the only WR in the league that may be slower than Todd Heap .

I think a true deep-speed threat is needed. I know Fitz is our current deep threat but a true burner, to me, can do nothing but help open up the offense. Now if Housler comes through, he can open the defense by becoming a deep threat down the middle, but a legit option to the stretch the defense has been missing for years.

Speed is nice, but it is not that big of a need when you are talking about what this team lacks, which is a good possession reciever to compliment Fitzgerald.

I bet the Ravens wished they had a little more size at WR. Sure, Lee Evans, and Torry Smith have all the speed you need to stretch the field. But, a TD catch from 10 yards in ........ didn't seem that speed helped Evans to catch a "going to the SuperBowl" TD pass.

To each his own. I just don't see the need for a "burner".

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Speed is nice, but it is not that big of a need when you are talking about what this team lacks, which is a good possession reciever to compliment Fitzgerald.

I bet the Ravens wished they had a little more size at WR. Sure, Lee Evans, and Torry Smith have all the speed you need to stretch the field. But, a TD catch from 10 yards in ........ didn't seem that speed helped Evans to catch a "going to the SuperBowl" TD pass.

To each his own. I just don't see the need for a "burner".

I guess my thinking is that the 3rd or 4th WR is not going to be a focal point of the offense so I want a guy who brings an added/different dimension to the offense that causes the defense to, at least, think about the deep threat. I agree deep threats mostly aren't relevant in the red zone but the Cards have Fitz, the TE's, and Roberts/Doucet to man that role. To me, Williams adds nothing that a healthy Heap, King, or Housler could add.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

Let's make Peyton comfortable: Pierre Garcon

 

[WildBB]

Let's make Peyton comfortable: Pierre Garcon

I heard an interview with Garcon on the Cowherd show. His intention is to stay put no matter where Peyton goes.

If we draft one, Streeter or Joe Adams out of Ark. would be great targets.

That would be if we traded down however and picked up an extra 3rd.