XII Championship ASU v Iowa St Saturday 12/7 10a

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This is win or go home. Big XII will only get one team in so can’t back into this thing with a loss. Iowa St is no joke. First time with 10 wins EVER.
Congratulations. What a crazy final day of the Big XII.

This Iowa State fan has his room reserved, tickets ordered and will be there late Thursday night. How many ASU fans will make the trip?
 
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Congratulations. What a crazy final day of the Big XII.

This Iowa State fan has his room reserved, tickets ordered and will be there late Thursday night. How many ASU fans will make the trip?
Welcome!

Hard to say. Given the circumstances I think we will travel well but not as well as Cyclone fans.

So tell us about your team’s strengths and weaknesses.
 
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Nope, they’ve only lost once and they’ve played a decent Big Ten schedule

They beat both teams that were in the national championship last year
It’s an impressive feat, especially considering it’s Indiana, but neither team is anywhere near where they were last year.

I agree with your sentiment. Indiana deserves to be in given what they did this year. You can only play the games on your schedule.
 

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Congratulations. What a crazy final day of the Big XII.

This Iowa State fan has his room reserved, tickets ordered and will be there late Thursday night. How many ASU fans will make the trip?
Welcome!

Friend of mine from school (5th-grade through HS) played Football at Iowa State (early 80's) so I have followed the program some since then. He is beyond psyched for this.
 

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Welcome!

Hard to say. Given the circumstances I think we will travel well but not as well as Cyclone fans.

So tell us about your team’s strengths and weaknesses.
This team has been held together with duct tape and bailing wire. Our fortunes have been largely tied to our injury status. We started 7-0 with the later of those games coming with players that never expected to see the field. The linebackers which was supposed to be a strength was especially hit hard with three experienced guys out and some of the backup lost also. I was told over 100 players have seen meaningful minutes in games this year. At first we seemed to get away with it with the backups playing well. But as the competition got tougher and coaches had game film on them, they were exposed.

Our injuries were starting to show in our 7th win where we escaped with a win against UCF when our quarterback, Rocco Becht, put the team on his back and led us to a game winning drive on the last possession. The next week the wheels came off against Kansas. We were never really in that game. The following week against Tech we put together a late drive that seemed to be the game winner, but the defense couldn't stop Tech as they answered to win the game. Those games were the low point. Since then we've got a couple of key players back, including a run stopper, Domonique Orange. He helps take pressure off those young linebackers. His counterpart on the DL, J.R. Singleton, I believe got hurt again and may be out. That's not good news if he can't go.

Our fortunes this year have been pretty much tied to injuries, and with Campbell it's hard to know who is going to be able to go. Often it takes the reporters Tweeting during warmups about who is out there and who is in street clothes. The defense has given up many long plays this year, which is not what ISU fans are used to under defensive coordinator John Heacock. But as the young replacements have gotten more game action and coaching, they have started to get better. At one point I was told we started three young guys from small Iowa schools, including at least one walkon.

I don't know what to expect on Saturday. Hopefully we are healthy enough on defense to slow ASU down and get some stops. But the offense needs to finish drives and not settle for field goals. If ISU can run the ball and not turn it over, that will give the Cyclones the best chance to win.

I am normally an optimist, but from our 7th game through the end of the season, I haven't been expecting wins.
 
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This team has been held together with duct tape and bailing wire. Our fortunes have been largely tied to our injury status. We started 7-0 with the later f those games coming with players that never expected to see the field. The linebackers which was supposed to be a strength was especially hit hard with three experienced guys out and some of the backup lost also. I was told over 100 players have seen meaningful minutes in games this year. At first we seemed to get away with it with the backups playing well. But as the competition got tougher and coaches had game film on them, they were exposed.

Our injuries were starting to show in our 7th win where we escaped with a win against UCF when our quarterback, Rocco Becht, put the team on his back and led us to a game winning drive on the last possession. The next week the wheels came off against Kansas. We were never really in that game. The following week against Tech we put together a late drive that seemed to be the game winner, but the defense couldn't stop Tech as they answered to win the game. Those games were the low point. Since then we've got a couple of key players back, including a run stopper, Domonique Orange. He helps take pressure off those young linebackers. His counterpart on the DL, J.R. Singleton, I believe got hurt again and may be out. That's not good news if he can't go.

Our fortunes this year have been pretty much tied to injuries, and with Campbell it's hard to know who is going to be able to go. Often it takes the reporters Tweeting during warmups about who is out there and who is in street clothes. The defense has given up many long plays this year, which is not what ISU fans are used to under defensive coordinator John Heacock. But as the young replacements have gotten more game action and coaching, they have started to get better. At one point I was told we started three young guys from small Iowa schools, including at least one walkon.

I don't know what to expect on Saturday. Hopefully we are healthy enough on defense to slow ASU down and get some stops. But the offense needs to finish drives and not settle for field goals. If ISU can run the ball and not turn it over, that will give the Cyclones the best chance to win.

I am normally an optimist, but from our 7th game through the end of the season, I haven't been expecting wins.
We lost our only downfield threat (Tyson) last game with a broken/dislocated collarbone. So I think ISU will stack the box accordingly.

I'm glad it's ISU that ASU is playing. I loathe Colorado and BYU, and have always thought highly of ISU. I hope it is a good game with no injuries.

And welcome to the site!
 

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Welcome Psyclone. I echo @jf-08 sentiments. It's refreshing to play another team beside BYU or Colorado.

ASU was healthy before the Arizona game, but the potential loss of top receiver Jordyn Tyson has muddied the water a bit.

Was Iowa State supposed to be this good at the beginning of the season?

ASU was predicted to be last in the Big 12 by prognosticators based mainly on last season's record. It's been a wonderful ride for Sun Devil fans.
 

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Congratulations. What a crazy final day of the Big XII.

This Iowa State fan has his room reserved, tickets ordered and will be there late Thursday night. How many ASU fans will make the trip?
Four ASU fans I know here in Portland are traveling. We have a lot of alumni up here after Intel moved so many folks from Chandler up here.
 
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Welcome Psyclone. I echo @jf-08 sentiments. It's refreshing to play another team beside BYU or Colorado.

ASU was healthy before the Arizona game, but the potential loss of top receiver Jordyn Tyson has muddied the water a bit.

Was Iowa State supposed to be this good at the beginning of the season?

ASU was predicted to be last in the Big 12 by prognosticators based mainly on last season's record. It's been a wonderful ride for Sun Devil fans.
And don’t forget Metayer was injured. He did come back so you assume he will play but injuries have a tendency to get worse once the game ends . Like I said, no reason to think he won’t play but he is certainly nowhere near 100%
 
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@jf-08 and @Mainstreet provided a really good breakdown of ASU but the one thing they and most of us don’t mention is the defense.

My take on the defense is they are serviceable. No really flashy players that scare an opponent. To my eyes, they are good tacklers and appear to play a disciplined scheme. They are aided by the offense creating pressure on the opponent.

Can Becht punish the Devils defense? I watched some of the ISU game Saturday night and, while I know it was cold and seemed windy, I didn’t come away overly impressed. Now, this game will have perfect conditions and the Cyclones win 10 games so I assume Becht has some game.
 

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This team has been held together with duct tape and bailing wire. Our fortunes have been largely tied to our injury status. We started 7-0 with the later f those games coming with players that never expected to see the field. The linebackers which was supposed to be a strength was especially hit hard with three experienced guys out and some of the backup lost also. I was told over 100 players have seen meaningful minutes in games this year. At first we seemed to get away with it with the backups playing well. But as the competition got tougher and coaches had game film on them, they were exposed.

Our injuries were starting to show in our 7th win where we escaped with a win against UCF when our quarterback, Rocco Becht, put the team on his back and led us to a game winning drive on the last possession. The next week the wheels came off against Kansas. We were never really in that game. The following week against Tech we put together a late drive that seemed to be the game winner, but the defense couldn't stop Tech as they answered to win the game. Those games were the low point. Since then we've got a couple of key players back, including a run stopper, Domonique Orange. He helps take pressure off those young linebackers. His counterpart on the DL, J.R. Singleton, I believe got hurt again and may be out. That's not good news if he can't go.

Our fortunes this year have been pretty much tied to injuries, and with Campbell it's hard to know who is going to be able to go. Often it takes the reporters Tweeting during warmups about who is out there and who is in street clothes. The defense has given up many long plays this year, which is not what ISU fans are used to under defensive coordinator John Heacock. But as the young replacements have gotten more game action and coaching, they have started to get better. At one point I was told we started three young guys from small Iowa schools, including at least one walkon.

I don't know what to expect on Saturday. Hopefully we are healthy enough on defense to slow ASU down and get some stops. But the offense needs to finish drives and not settle for field goals. If ISU can run the ball and not turn it over, that will give the Cyclones the best chance to win.

I am normally an optimist, but from our 7th game through the end of the season, I haven't been expecting wins.


What do you think of your QB Rocco Becht? I haven't seen much of him, but he reminds me a lot of U of A's Fifta, strong arm, crafty, and very quick on his feet. He may be a problem for us if we can't generate a pass rush. Our DC, Brian Ward, is pretty creative about dialing up different blitzes, but he is not blitzing every play like our old coach Todd Graham years ago, lol.
 

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@jf-08 and @Mainstreet provided a really good breakdown of ASU but the one thing they and most of us don’t mention is the defense.

My take on the defense is they are serviceable. No really flashy players that scare an opponent. To my eyes, they are good tacklers and appear to play a disciplined scheme. They are aided by the offense creating pressure on the opponent.

Can Becht punish the Devils defense? I watched some of the ISU game Saturday night and, while I know it was cold and seemed windy, I didn’t come away overly impressed. Now, this game will have perfect conditions and the Cyclones win 10 games so I assume Becht has some game.
Both quarterback had trouble passing in that cold weather and receivers dropped balls they would normally catch. Both teams. I sat out in that cold weather and I can't imagine playing in it. It would hurt just to get hit. It was easily the worst performance by Becht statistically in two years.
 

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And don’t forget Metayer was injured. He did come back so you assume he will play but injuries have a tendency to get worse once the game ends . Like I said, no reason to think he won’t play but he is certainly nowhere near 100%

I was concerned Matayer had received a concussion on the helmet to helmet contact.

When he returned to the game, it made me feel much better about the situation
 

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Here are the ASU receivers getting practice repetitions.

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Guillory needs to step up and be the player everyone has expected him to be. He has been a disappointment. Some of that is Leavitt relying so much on Tyson and Metayer and certainly some of it is on Guillory not being productive to create opportunities for Leavitt to find him.

I like Stovall and the past few weeks he has been more visible in the offense. Some of the same issues apply to him that apply to Guillory.
 
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