Your Arizona Cardinals now hold the 16th pick in the 2025 NFL Draft

[BritCard]

I feel like there's a lot more group think in mocks this year. I think because there are a more limited number true standout players and clear needs for many teams that the same guys are being mocked repeatedly.

I'm not so sure, I think because it pretty flat after pick 8 there going to be a lot of surprises. There are a bunch of guys with big ranges.

 

[HairZach]

Simmons is interesting but I did not realize how poor the recovery rates for patellar tendon tears are. Supposedly it's way worse than Achilles and ACL injuries.

 

[FB94]

No on Simmons with that injury. May turn out to be a nothing burger in the end, but at this point in time you cannot risk it.

 

[BACH]

No on Simmons with that injury. May turn out to be a nothing burger in the end, but at this point in time you cannot risk it.

Simmons is the odd player out IMO - not only based on the injury but also scheme.

Campbell if he falls. Banks and the three guards are the scheme fits IMO.

 

[BritCard]

If Josh Simmons didn't hurt his knee he'd be a top 10 pick. I think he's the best tackle in this class, up there with Membou but edges it because he has experience playing both sides (and LG in HS).

I saw some comments here that he's not a dog and doesn't finish guys but I don't see that at all. Lots of film of him ending guys will to live.

The only question on him is the injury, but if the medicals look good I think he's a steal at 16. If you can move back a bit and still get him them even better. He's as good as Paris was coming out and he went #6.

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[Totally_Red]

If Josh Simmons didn't hurt his knee he'd be a top 10 pick. I think he's the best tackle in this class, up there with Membou but edges it because he has experience playing both sides (and LG in HS).

I saw some comments here that he's not a dog and doesn't finish guys but I don't see that at all. Lots of film of him ending guys will to live.

The only question on him is the injury, but if the medicals look good I think he's a steal at 16. If you can move back a bit and still get him them even better. He's as good as Paris was coming out and he went #6.

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It is all about the medicals. I don't think he gets past Houston at 25.

 

[Garthshort]

An advantage of his visit to Arizona, is that the team doctors can examine his injury, which seems to be the BIG question mark about him. Our OL coach should also help in the evaluation.

 

[az jam]

Did some research on Simmon's patellar tendon tear and it is a very serious concern and recovery can take up to 12 months. If they take him don't expect much out of him in his rookie season. It has ended some players careers. But who knows maybe he will be lucky and be a terrific player.

 

[BACH]

If Josh Simmons didn't hurt his knee he'd be a top 10 pick. I think he's the best tackle in this class, up there with Membou but edges it because he has experience playing both sides (and LG in HS).

I saw some comments here that he's not a dog and doesn't finish guys but I don't see that at all. Lots of film of him ending guys will to live.

The only question on him is the injury, but if the medicals look good I think he's a steal at 16. If you can move back a bit and still get him them even better. He's as good as Paris was coming out and he went #6.

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Do not like the scheme fit. Simmons is a much purer pass blocker that PJJ. If drafted he has to play blindside and PJJ has to move.

 

[PJ1]

Did some research on Simmon's patellar tendon tear and it is a very serious concern and recovery can take up to 12 months. If they take him don't expect much out of him in his rookie season. It has ended some players careers. But who knows maybe he will be lucky and be a terrific player.

To me that eliminates him from being our first round pick. Not the round you gamble with.

 

[BritCard]

Did some research on Simmon's patellar tendon tear and it is a very serious concern and recovery can take up to 12 months. If they take him don't expect much out of him in his rookie season. It has ended some players careers. But who knows maybe he will be lucky and be a terrific player.

All the talk is that he will be ready for camp.

 

[BritCard]

Do not like the scheme fit. Simmons is a much purer pass blocker that PJJ. If drafted he has to play blindside and PJJ has to move.

I don't see that at all. He started at RT for SDU. He can slot right in at RT.

 

[Harry]

To me that eliminates him from being our first round pick. Not the round you gamble with.

The new line coach is in perfect position to assess his recovery

 

[Chopper0080]

If Josh Simmons didn't hurt his knee he'd be a top 10 pick. I think he's the best tackle in this class, up there with Membou but edges it because he has experience playing both sides (and LG in HS).

I saw some comments here that he's not a dog and doesn't finish guys but I don't see that at all. Lots of film of him ending guys will to live.

The only question on him is the injury, but if the medicals look good I think he's a steal at 16. If you can move back a bit and still get him them even better. He's as good as Paris was coming out and he went #6.

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I think the top 10 comment is pretty funny because you could use it for like 10 other players. And, there is no actual evidence that he is as good as Paris was coming out of college. Simmons wasn't nationally ranked coming out of high school, Paris was 21st ranked nationally. Paris was an established OT as a draft prospect. Simmons is a prospect whose best trait was the growth he showed from 2023 to 2024 and the hope for further growth.

Obviously, what you do in the NFL matters more than what you did in college, but in comparing the two, Paris is clearly a better draft prospect.

 

[Card'em]

Remember when Ryan Williams, a rookie running back for the Cardinals, tore his patella tendon and never was able to return to form before the injury. It's a devastating injury for a running back, but I'm not sure it has the same significance for an offensive lineman. Still reason for concern.

 

[az jam]

The new line coach is in perfect position to assess his recovery

What is your assessment of him as a player for the Cards to pick?

 

[Harry]

Simmons was a consensus 4 star recruit out of high school, so he wasn’t an unknown. Lots of those guys turn into major players. Frye certainly knows the status of his rehab. If he’s fully functional, he’s a solid pick for RT, but likely 22 down pick-wise. I do like him better than Jackson as Simmons is better at tackle. Jackson is likely 25 down but he’s an immediate need. There are likely immediate RG starters at pick 47. Booker could be there, for example. I still like staying put and taking Grant unless I’m offered a good second for going down.

 

[MadCardDisease]

Did some research on Simmon's patellar tendon tear and it is a very serious concern and recovery can take up to 12 months. If they take him don't expect much out of him in his rookie season. It has ended some players careers. But who knows maybe he will be lucky and be a terrific player.

I'm not a fan of starting OTs their rookie year if you don't have to. Currently the Cardinals have Williams, Beachum and Jones who can hold down the RT position until Simmons would be ready to play. Then in 2026, Simmons could compete for the RT position with Christian Jones as Williams and Beachum would be FAs.

 

[Garthshort]

Since Simmons is one of the 17 guys who will be at the Draft, he must be pretty sure that his injury won't keep him from being drafted. Who knows, his college OL coach might have told him, "Top 16 at worst".

 

[BirdGangThing]

17 players will be at the draft

will the cards draft one of them?

 

[MadCardDisease]

Since Simmons is one of the 17 guys who will be at the Draft, he must be pretty sure that his injury won't keep him from being drafted. Who knows, his college OL coach might have told him, "Top 16 at worst".

A large number of teams are in need of quality OT starters/depth. This draft is light on quality OTs. Simmons won't make it out of the first round IMO.

 

[Totally_Red]

A large number of teams are in need of quality OT starters/depth. This draft is light on quality OTs. Simmons won't make it out of the first round IMO.

Seen a couple mocks with Houston grabbing him at 25.

 

[CardNots]

I still like staying put and taking Grant unless I’m offered a good second for going down.

100 percent supportive.

 

[Garthshort]

Don't know the amounts but it seems that in FA we spent a lot more on defensive players than on offensive players. And, I'm not counting re-signing our own guys. If that is the case, I'm guessing we'll go offense in the first round.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Jalen Milroe was invited to the draft too. So I wouldn’t put a ton of stock in that.
Simmons is not as good as Paris and he’s an average run blocker. If it’s 3rd and short, you’re not running behind him.