Your Arizona Cardinals now hold the 16th pick in the 2025 NFL Draft

[ASUCHRIS]

If Will Johnson is there at #16 he would be a terrific pick. I doubt he will be but I would have no problem with a pick like that.

Usually one or two players drops surprisingly - if it's a Will Johnson or Membou/Campbell, I think you have to consider it. Hell, I'd even consider Tet.

 

[kerouac9]

Usually one or two players drops surprisingly - if it's a Will Johnson or Membou/Campbell, I think you have to consider it. Hell, I'd even consider Tet.

"Usually." Who was this in the last draft? What about in 2023?

 

[Mulli]

"Usually." Who was this in the last draft? What about in 2023?

Your face!

 

[BritCard]

When's the last time there were this many high level edge prospects in one draft?

LOL

I don't think there's that much high level. I think it's lacking in 9's and 10's, but has a whole bunch of 7's.

 

[BritCard]

Take BPA regardless of position. As much as I have beat the drum for a dominant level DT for years I am not locked into any one position. I think DT is so deep in this draft that BPA at #16 is very likely a DT.

A dominant level NFL DT prospect goes top 3, not at #16 though. At 16 were rolling the dice.

 

[kerouac9]

A dominant level NFL DT prospect goes top 3, not at #16 though. At 16 were rolling the dice.

Chris Jones was drafted 37th overall
Cameron Hayward was drafted 31st overall
Dexter Lawrence was drafted 17th overall
Jalen Carter was drafted 9th overall

Those are All-Pro type players. Trust your scouting, not some random consensus.

 

[Mulli]

Chris Jones was drafted 37th overall
Cameron Hayward was drafted 31st overall
Dexter Lawrence was drafted 17th overall
Jalen Carter was drafted 9th overall

Those are All-Pro type players. Trust your scouting, not some random consensus.

Or if you passed on Chris Jones, don’t trust your scouting either

 

[BritCard]

Chris Jones was drafted 37th overall
Cameron Hayward was drafted 31st overall
Dexter Lawrence was drafted 17th overall
Jalen Carter was drafted 9th overall

Those are All-Pro type players. Trust your scouting, not some random consensus.

Mazi Smith was taken 26th
Javon Kinlaw 14th
Taven Bryan was 29th

All those teams trusted their scouting.

My point being at #16 there's no guarantee of what you get. Certainly no guarantee of dominance.

 

[ajcardfan]

Mazi Smith was taken 26th
Javon Kinlaw 14th
Taven Bryan was 29th

All those teams trusted their scouting.

My point being at #16 there's no guarantee of what you get. Certainly no guarantee of dominance.

The draft is a crap shoot no matter where you pick and what position you pick. The higher you draft the better odds you have hitting it. But you still get odds.

 

[gmabel830]

"Usually." Who was this in the last draft? What about in 2023?

Just going off memory here, but last year Bowers, Latu, and Turner were all projected to go higher than they did.

In 2023, no one is really jumping out that seems to have slid very far.

 

[football karma]

Daniel Jermiah said -- my paraphrase -- that there are a couple guys everyone thinks are top 5 guys: Abdul Carter and Travis Hunter -- and after that one teams #3 guy might be another teams #23 guy. As a result, first round is entirely unpredictable

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Just going off memory here, but last year Bowers, Latu, and Turner were all projected to go higher than they did.

In 2023, no one is really jumping out that seems to have slid very far.

Jalen Carter went 9 in 2023.

 

[gmabel830]

Jalen Carter went 9 in 2023.

A bit of a slide, but weren't there some questions about him going in?

 

[ASUCHRIS]

A bit of a slide, but weren't there some questions about him going in?

Outside of his reckless (drunk) driving, not really.

 

[HairZach]

A bit of a slide, but weren't there some questions about him going in?

He and a girl were street racing after being seen leaving a club visibly impaired. The girl crashed, Carter called some friends to come help, then fled the scene. One of his teammates was in the car and died at the scene, and the driver died later in the hospital. One passenger who survived the crash heavily injured said Carter did not check on any of the passengers, attempt to help them himself, or even wait for help to arrive before he left.

He had previous reckless driving charges against him and also showed up to pre draft workouts very out of shape.

Before this he was considered the #1 prospect in the draft. The Raiders probably would have taken him if they hadnt just gotten through the Henry Ruggs experience. Leaving friends and teammates to die to avoid a drunk driving charge is a bit of a character concern.

 

[GatorAZ]

Will Johnson having a down year then getting injured being the reason he fell to #16 would be anti-typical Cards luck. Getting him would be huge and he’s just a better prospect than the DL’s in that zone IMO.

 

[Denny Green Fan]

A dominant level NFL DT prospect goes top 3, not at #16 though. At 16 were rolling the dice.

Man I don’t know I think grant if available would be a safe pick…great character…takes up 2 blockers with pass rush upside….i just feel if we go will johnson he will turn his ankle walking to the commissioner to get his jersey…too injury prone ….

 

[Garthshort]

Chris Jones was drafted 37th overall
Cameron Hayward was drafted 31st overall
Dexter Lawrence was drafted 17th overall
Jalen Carter was drafted 9th overall

Those are All-Pro type players. Trust your scouting, not some random consensus.

Stop confusing me with facts. My head will explode.

 

[PDXChris]

Odd one!

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[BritCard]

Odd one!

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I don't think that's odd. Banks is a stud. I could absolutely see Monti moving up a few spots for him for a guy that could be elite at either guard or tackle, and we need both.

 

[DVontel]

I don't think that's odd. Banks is a stud. I could absolutely see Monti moving up a few spots for him for a guy that could be elite at either guard or tackle, and we need both.

I don’t see him being elite at either, so I would be pretty damn irritated.

Membou is the only one I can see being elite in this class.

 

[GeorgiaCard88]

Mel kiper misses way more than he hits and I find his draft picks for the cardinals lack real insight.

We upgrade the CB room by upgrading the front 7. DT/edge all the way- love the Tomlinson signing but that is a short term solution

 

[PDXChris]

I don't think that's odd. Banks is a stud. I could absolutely see Monti moving up a few spots for him for a guy that could be elite at either guard or tackle, and we need both.

I would be ok with that 1st pick, but with a trade up. The rest of the picks are off. Another early round CB, undersized DT. Jaylin might be ok.

 

[Gandhi]

I 100% understand the sentiment of drafting a trench player over a CB.

But I’m not just draft ANY trench player over someone like a Will Johnson.

I’m drafting Will Johnson over someone like Tyler Booker or Mykel Williams.

I understand your point, but I just doubt that they will draft a cornerback that high. I tend to think that Gannon trust his own abilites in coaching the position enough to go with slightly lower drafted players.

 

[football karma]

Odd one!

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I would be perfectly ok with this --

To have two young OTs under control and coming up for extensions 2 years apart is good strategic move.

And I really like Jaylin Noel as a slot guy with juice

the offense is closer to being top 10 -- and a top 10 offense plus a avg defense can win you a lot of games