Your Arizona Cardinals now hold the 16th pick in the 2025 NFL Draft

[Cheesebeef]

Winning a playoff game for starters?

We've been press worthy, but mainly for all the wrong reasons. Hype followed by meltdown. That's not relevance.

Borg.

 

[Shane]

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[schutd]

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The draft is only interesting to me based on what The Cards do, and if ish goes off the effin rails.

 

[BirdGangThing]

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rumor is they traded up for jeanty?

 

[Shane]

The draft is only interesting to me based on what The Cards do, and if ish goes off the effin rails.

Agree completely I only give a crap about the first 15 pics because it affects what we do after that it’s a yawn fest till our next pick comes around

 

[JohnnyCakes]

rumor is they traded up for jeanty?

trading up that high for a RB from Boise St is rather risky

Career move for Poles

 

[Chopper0080]

He was though.

A guy looking good vs Akron doesn't make him a top OT prospect. He wasn't a top prospect based off his 2023 film. I disagree that his play vs absolute buns competition warranted a rise to the best OT in the draft. If that was the case, He wouldn't be a mid to late 1st round pick (IMO of course).

 

[Chopper0080]

Chopper, posted “I disagree with that sentiment. I haven't read anywhere that he was playing at the level of Campbell or Membou.”

The above is my original post & Chopper’s initial response. You said no one rated him that highly before injury. “Kiper continued. “Josh Simmons, as a left tackle, was well on his way this year to becoming maybe the third, fourth, fifth pick in the draft. But he didn’t finish out the year,” Kiper added. “He had cleaned up all the issues with penalties. He had developed into an elite left tackle. Probably ahead of Will Campbell had he been healthy, but he’s not, and when’s he going to be ready?” This clearly indicates he was thought of that highly. I can’t find the continuation you posted, but it referred to post injury, which was not my point. Not certain how my post rose to “lol” status.

I read this differently than you. "Well on his way" to me reads as he still needed to improve to get to that level. It's a projection of improvement vs what he was at the time. Just like any scout you have to weigh what a guy is vs what he could be. To me, Mel is saying that he might have pushed for that spot, but in the end he didn't.

His cleaned up issues and improved play were against garbage competition. Shocking that he didn't have issues with penalties vs teams they were beating by 35 points and didn't have NFL level pass rushers.

 

[Chopper0080]

Yup. The Monti-JG regime is playing the long game. They'd rather have a very good player in years 2-5 than a good player in years 1-5.

Wild Monti thinks 12-22 record enables him to play any sort of "long game". AZ has one of the few fan bases IMO who will embrace conceding so much.

 

[kerouac9]

Wild Monti thinks 12-22 record enables him to play any sort of "long game". AZ has one of the few fan bases IMO who will embrace conceding so much.

Spending two years building to playoff expectations and then punting your first round pick is true galaxy brain stuff

 

[Cheesebeef]

Wild Monti thinks 12-22 record enables him to play any sort of "long game". AZ has one of the few fan bases IMO who will embrace conceding so much.

Even more wild that Monti gets credit for being able to identify the “very good players” when Paris and Williams are his best two draft picks and both are good players, but have yet to breakthrough to being much more.

 

[kerouac9]

Even more wild that Monti gets credit for being able to identify the “very good players” when Paris and Williams are his best two draft picks and both are good players, but have yet to breakthrough to being much more.

He’s among the best at not being able to unseat UDFA starling Thomas V!

 

[phillycard]

I made it to my favorite draft place on time.. Like 10 years in a row. C'mon Redbirds!
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Ayyy Yo!!!!!!

 

[PDXChris]

Spending two years building to playoff expectations and then punting your first round pick is true galaxy brain stuff

100%

This would push me to the darkside. This is supposed to be the year to make a playoff run and the first 3 picks needs to contribute with the existing holes..

 

[Stout]

Even more wild that Monti gets credit for being able to identify the “very good players” when Paris and Williams are his best two draft picks and both are good players, but have yet to breakthrough to being much more.

Not a single Big John drafted yet. None showing out as one, anyway.

 

[MadCardDisease]

His cleaned up issues and improved play were against garbage competition. Shocking that he didn't have issues with penalties vs teams they were beating by 35 points and didn't have NFL level pass rushers.

Didn't he play against Iowa and Oregon in 2024?

 

[Proximo]

Gambo saying we might be able to move down to 20-25 and get a 3rd

If Simmons is the only guy of Gambo's 5 on the board, I would do that, I don't think he will go before Houston at 25.

 

[BirdGangThing]

Gambo saying we might be able to move down to 20-25 and get a 3rd

If Simmons is the only guy of Gambo's 5 on the board, I would do that, I don't think he will go before Houston at 25.

that's exactly what i said 5 weeks ago - it was unpopular then

 

[Harry]

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Not encouraging.

DK Metcalf & Jimmy Graham have both had this injury. It is true some have had poor recoveries.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

DK Metcalf & Jimmy Graham have both had this injury. It is true some have had poor recoveries.

I'm especially worried because of his size. It can't make recovery easier.

 

[BritCard]

DK Metcalf & Jimmy Graham have both had this injury. It is true some have had poor recoveries.

It's so rare at that age though. Rare generally but it's most common in older players. I had a look and hard to find data for that age group.

I'd still take him. Top 10 talent otherwise and word is all testing and medicals are good.

 

[BritCard]

Good luck. Fingers crossed!

 

[kerouac9]

It's so rare at that age though. Rare generally but it's most common in older players. I had a look and hard to find data for that age group.

I'd still take him. Top 10 talent otherwise and word is all testing and medicals are good.

This is the guy who insisted Rondale Moore was not injury prone

 

[Cheesebeef]

DK Metcalf & Jimmy Graham have both had this injury. It is true some have had poor recoveries.

Forgive me if I'm mistaken here, but Metcalf never actually had surgery for the injury, which was just a strain and not a full tear and save one good season in his first year back from this injury, Graham's play fell off a cliff the rest of his career after he tore his.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

As an OSU guy, I’m saying Josh Simmons would not be a good pick.