Zack & Miri Make a Porno

[Heucrazy]

Kevin Smith makes a good movie finally.

You've obviously never seen Mallrats, Clerks, Dogma, or Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back. All classics IMO.

As for Zack and Miri I liked it a lot.

 

[joeshmo]

You've obviously never seen Mallrats, Clerks, Dogma, or Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back. All classics IMO.

As for Zack and Miri I liked it a lot.

Clerks, good, every thing else drivel with regurgitated jokes and characters.

Your term of Classic is exactly why I said "finally", its been a long time that he has done anything good considering you yourself are calling his best movies Classics already, meaning its been a long time.

 

[Shane]

You've obviously never seen Mallrats, Clerks, Dogma, or Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back. All classics IMO.

As for Zack and Miri I liked it a lot.

All of the bolded are GARBAGE.

 

[Heucrazy]

All of the bolded are GARBAGE.

Did you deceide to type "garbage" in all caps while riding home on your scooter?

 

[PDXChris]

Clerks, good, every thing else drivel with regurgitated jokes and characters.

Your term of Classic is exactly why I said "finally", its been a long time that he has done anything good considering you yourself are calling his best movies Classics already, meaning its been a long time.

All of the bolded are GARBAGE.

You guys both take it back on Mallrats. :safe:

 

[Brian in Mesa]

Available on DVD: Zack & Miri Make a Porno packaged as Zack & Miri.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

You guys both take it back on Mallrats. :safe:

 

[PDXChris]

And Chasing Amy was also great.

 

[Stout]

I can understand hating on some of the movies, because you have to like the schtick to like them. Dogma and Chasing Amy, though, are good in and of themselves. I'd put Jersey Girl in the same category too, but it gets hated on a lot.

 

[Louis]

Kinda surprised at how "cute" is became.

A lot of nudity and sexual content, but the story itself is pretty good.

Very funny and Craig Robinson stole the show which was surprising for me because usually in a Kevin Smith project it's Jason Mewes that gets the good stuff. Though he was fine in his role.

My only disappointment in the flick was the Justin Long/Brandon Routh characters. I thought for sure that Justin Long was going to be called back later, his character had great potential if he had more screen time.

 

[Shane]

And Chasing Amy was also great.

Garbage

 

[Gee!]

Garbage

Here's a scary thought.. Whenever I have come into this forum over the years, I have noticed I pretty much agree with everything Shane says about movies.. So when he sees one before me, I hold his opinion a little higher than most..

 

[Chris_Sanders]

Gee, you would hate Chasing Amy. It's the story of a guy and a lesbian and the troubles that their relationship poses.

 

[Stout]

Garbage

You're right...your opinion on this thread IS garbage j/k but not really, but j/k, unless you think it's okay

 

[Gaddabout]

Chasing Amy was Smith's most mature movie. It stands alone. Clerks was an accident with some strong writing and great cultural timing. Mallrats was a farce ... but probably the most quotable of all his movies; I think Smith just made the huge casting mistake of putting Jeremy London, one of the worst actors of the 90s, in the lead.

Dogma, to me, was garbage, not for its content but for its ridiculous assumption that anyone outside of a Catholic upbringing would relate to it. It did have the most powerful scene Smith ever shot, and that was the initial conflict between Affleck and Damon. That was genius. Brilliant.

Strikes Back was one big inside joke for View Askew fanboys. If you didn't have a membership to Smith's message board, you probably didn't get most of the humor.

Smith made Jersey Girl for his mother. You have to understand why to get the movie, which is why I think so many people trashed it. It was a personal challenge.

Clerks 2, for me, was a travesty. I wanted to beat Smith over the head with a film canister for that one. Beyond self-indulgent -- and he's not a master filmmaker who can get away with that.

Zack & Miri appears to be Smith's first real honest attempt to make a movie beyond his original universe of characters. Can't wait to see it, and I'm happy to see him plugging into a better field of comic actors than the ones he grew up with.

I still say Smith's true calling is as a writer, actor, and lecturer. I've found him MORE funny in all three of those roles. He made Catch & Release watchable.

 

[abomb]

Chasing Amy was Smith's most mature movie. It stands alone.

Correct. Probably the best story KS has told so far from a writing standpoint.

Clerks was an accident with some strong writing and great cultural timing.

Agreed. Clerks will stand as one of the top independent film stories of the 90s.

Mallrats was a farce ... but probably the most quotable of all his movies; I think Smith just made the huge casting mistake of putting Jeremy London, one of the worst actors of the 90s, in the lead.

IIRC, Smith had very little to do with the casting of the film. The studio was in control of most of the film, which would explain the alternate beginning. KS has admitted that Mallrats was pretty much a disaster all the way around.

Dogma, to me, was garbage, not for its content but for its ridiculous assumption that anyone outside of a Catholic upbringing would relate to it. It did have the most powerful scene Smith ever shot, and that was the initial conflict between Affleck and Damon. That was genius. Brilliant.

Agreed.

Strikes Back was one big inside joke for View Askew fanboys. If you didn't have a membership to Smith's message board, you probably didn't get most of the humor.

Agreed x2.

Smith made Jersey Girl for his mother. You have to understand why to get the movie, which is why I think so many people trashed it. It was a personal challenge.

Yeah, for his mother and coping with his new journey into fatherhood. Sweet movie, with just enough of a bite to be a KS flick.

Clerks 2, for me, was a travesty. I wanted to beat Smith over the head with a film canister for that one. Beyond self-indulgent -- and he's not a master filmmaker who can get away with that.

Agreed. Hated it.

Zack & Miri appears to be Smith's first real honest attempt to make a movie beyond his original universe of characters. Can't wait to see it, and I'm happy to see him plugging into a better field of comic actors than the ones he grew up with.

Give it a watch. Chap or cheese said it is his best film technically and they are spot on.

I still say Smith's true calling is as a writer, actor, and lecturer. I've found him MORE funny in all three of those roles. He made Catch & Release watchable.

Agreed. I just finished "My Boring Ass Life" which is basically a printing of his online diary. The three Evening with KS DVDs are ridiculously entertaining. You are correct in stating that he is a much better writer, actor and lecturer than he is director, editor, etc.

A scant 10 years ago, I thought KS and QT were the best directors I had ever seen. I have seen a lot of movies in the past 10 years.

 

[Gaddabout]

IIRC, Smith had very little to do with the casting of the film. The studio was in control of most of the film, which would explain the alternate beginning. KS has admitted that Mallrats was pretty much a disaster all the way around.

That's not the way Smith felt when he was recording the commentary. I was not aware he had changed his opinion.

The movie killed as a home rental, much like Clerks, and at least a few years after its release he was still blaming Grammercy for its failure at the box office. In the commentary he jibed that if Universal had been doing the box office distribution and marketing, Mallrats would've been received much better by the press and public.

I agree with that sentiment, too. For all its weaknesses, it's still many times better than the other teen movies of the time. And who else could make this line funny?:

"It's not a schooner, it's a sailboat!"

 

[abomb]

That's not the way Smith felt when he was recording the commentary. I was not aware he had changed his opinion.

The movie killed as a home rental, much like Clerks, and at least a few years after its release he was still blaming Grammercy for its failure at the box office. In the commentary he jibed that if Universal had been doing the box office distribution and marketing, Mallrats would've been received much better by the press and public.

I agree with that sentiment, too. For all its weaknesses, it's still many times better than the other teen movies of the time. And who else could make this line funny?:

"It's not a schooner, it's a sailboat!"

I thought I had the story straight, but have Mallrats X (with the all-new commentary) coming via Netflix soon.

Mallrats is an instant laugh for me anytime I watch it.

 

[PDXChris]

Chasing Amy was Smith's most mature movie. It stands alone. Clerks was an accident with some strong writing and great cultural timing. Mallrats was a farce ... but probably the most quotable of all his movies; I think Smith just made the huge casting mistake of putting Jeremy London, one of the worst actors of the 90s, in the lead.

Dogma, to me, was garbage, not for its content but for its ridiculous assumption that anyone outside of a Catholic upbringing would relate to it. It did have the most powerful scene Smith ever shot, and that was the initial conflict between Affleck and Damon. That was genius. Brilliant.

Strikes Back was one big inside joke for View Askew fanboys. If you didn't have a membership to Smith's message board, you probably didn't get most of the humor.

Smith made Jersey Girl for his mother. You have to understand why to get the movie, which is why I think so many people trashed it. It was a personal challenge.

Clerks 2, for me, was a travesty. I wanted to beat Smith over the head with a film canister for that one. Beyond self-indulgent -- and he's not a master filmmaker who can get away with that.

Zack & Miri appears to be Smith's first real honest attempt to make a movie beyond his original universe of characters. Can't wait to see it, and I'm happy to see him plugging into a better field of comic actors than the ones he grew up with.

I still say Smith's true calling is as a writer, actor, and lecturer. I've found him MORE funny in all three of those roles. He made Catch & Release watchable.

I agree with everything expect that Clair Forlani was worse than Jeremy London and that was hard to do. Doesn't matter though, cause Jason Lee stole the show.

 

[PDXChris]

IIRC, Smith had very little to do with the casting of the film. The studio was in control of most of the film, which would explain the alternate beginning. KS has admitted that Mallrats was pretty much a disaster all the way around.

He had the final say on Jason Lee and Jason Mewed. In the commentary he talked about that and how the shirt Brodie was wearing was a mix of the three actors who did not not get the part and how Jason Mewes had to pay for his own way up to Minnesota since the studio wanted Breckin Meyer.

 

[PDXChris]

Garbage

 

[Gaddabout]

I agree with everything expect that Clair Forlani was worse than Jeremy London and that was hard to do. Doesn't matter though, cause Jason Lee stole the show.

That's the truth. Jason Lee is one of the few people (maybe Jeff Anderson being the other) who can deliver Smith's anguished verbosity in a natural way. Play that against London (and even Affleck, who I think is the most overrated actor of our time) and it really pops off the screen.

It's funny to hear Smith talk and realize how those lines are supposed to be delivered. Either he works with crap actors or he just can't direct, because the initial stuff is very funny when you hear Smith deliver it. I was stunned how badly Chris Rock was in Dogma. He was stiff. I would've said, OK, my stuff is good, but you need to be Chris Rock, so make it up as you go.

 

[SuperSpck]

An ok movie with that had a few genuinely funny moments coupled with a few genuinely unfunny ones.
Also, the pace of the film seemed rushed.

 

[Covert Rain]

It was not the funniest movie ever but I still thought it was funny.

 

[thirty-two]

I enjoyed watching this movie - very funny at parts. I actually really liked Rogen in his role, even though it bugs me that not cute guys get hot girls in the movies, but whatev.

I am sorry but Justin Long STOLE THE FREAKING SHOW. Holy crap I was dying laughing during his parts!!

Overall, a fun and sometimes crude movie.