Is it time to move on from Kyler Murray

Should the Cardinals move on from Kyler Murray?

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Stout

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Because the team is getting killed and he's trying to make something happen, trying to hold the ball as long as possible just in case lightning strikes and one of our receivers gains an inch of separation. You are acutely focused on something that has nothing to do with the outcome of the game.
Oh, I'm sorry, taking bad sacks has nothing to do with the outcome of the game. Pardon me for understanding how the NFL works LOLOLOL
 

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Oh, I'm sorry, taking bad sacks has nothing to do with the outcome of the game. Pardon me for understanding how the NFL works LOLOLOL

Pardon you for NOT understanding how the NFL works, I think you meant. You are focused on the effect, not the cause, because you don't seem to understand the cause. You just see "quarterback take sack. Quarterback bad" because you don't understand what is going on in the game.
 

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Pardon you for NOT understanding how the NFL works, I think you meant. You are focused on the effect, not the cause, because you don't seem to understand the cause. You just see "quarterback take sack. Quarterback bad" because you don't understand what is going on in the game.
No, I see "QB hold the ball. QB hold the ball for longer. QB hold the ball too long. QB not throw ball away. QB fall down, go boom."

Sorry bro, but he took a bunch of needless sacks. Throw. The. Damn. Ball. Away. Try again on the next down without being in 2nd and 13 or 3rd and 18.

The best you can say for him is that he did the wrong thing trying too hard to make something happen. That's not good QB playe either.
 

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Two passes come to mind and both were to Wilson.
The one down the sidelines I said as soon as he left the ball go” That’s overthrown” all the while watching the TE running underneath WIDE OPEN for an easy first down.
The other was Wilson had a 3 yard in route looking for the first down. Had the ball been thrown on time it would have been an easy catch and a first down. But it wasn’t. It was late and gave the defender time to get there and break it up.

This should not be happening at this point.
 

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What team would partner to make they trade. They certainly wouldn't see him as a number 1 option.
Possibly Las Vegas, maybe Carolina, and maybe Tennessee. Miami if Tua changes his mind and retires.
 

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Possibly Las Vegas, maybe Carolina, and maybe Tennessee. Miami if Tua changes his mind and retires.
Miami...maybe, but you are getting a 3rd or 4th round pick for him. (I don't think AZ is getting rid of him)
 

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Bidwill is never going to each the cap hit. But it doesn’t mean he could be benched and relegated to 2nd string.
 

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Cardinal fans seriously don’t understand that this would never happen.
The Mannings know everything about the Bidwills and would laugh in your face suggesting this.
Bull.
Archie wanted Peyton in new Orleans and he told dad to mind his business.
Maybe little Arch has a spine too
 

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Archie wanted Peyton in new Orleans and he told dad to mind his business.
Maybe little Arch has a spine too

And yet they forced a trade by the terrible Chargers with Eli.

The Bidwills are legacy losers and need to be kicked out. The Mannings already said no to them once they would make it twice with Archie.
 

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They aren't benching Kyler.
My point is looking to next year. You can’t cut him but you can bring in a true prospect to groom and not wait until 2026. If Kyler were to get hurt, or we were sitting at 3-11 in 2025 then Kyler’s replacement could commence.
Ridder and Tune are not that guy.
 

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My point is looking to next year. You can’t cut him but you can bring in a true prospect to groom and not wait until 2026. If Kyler were to get hurt, or we were sitting at 3-11 in 2025 then Kyler’s replacement could commence.
Ridder and Tune are not that guy.
It's too soon. Mike ain't eating like 75mil to dump a guy who can still occasionally post a 4 TD game with a 158 pr.
Not when our defense is ass...there are too many built in excuses to roll it back with this offense at least one more season
 

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It's too soon. Mike ain't eating like 75mil to dump a guy who can still occasionally post a 4 TD game with a 158 pr.
Not when our defense is ass...there are too many built in excuses to roll it back with this offense at least one more season
I agree. But at one point do we find his heir apparent? Could a rookie be brought in next year to ready us for 2026?
 

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I don't see them using a 2nd round pick next year to grab a QB for 2026 when they may not be the coach/gm in 2026 if Kyler doesn't improve.
I get it. I’m beginning to think we should use every draft pick on defense along with every dime in free agency. Take the Qb out of the main focus where Kyler can just be mediocre for us to win.
 

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"Panning for Manning "

Kylers contract ends just in time.

Manning's not draft eligible until 2026?

Or do you mean this year and next year with Kyler and then Manning?
 
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