09 Playoffs- Lakers vs Rockets Series thread
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If they even THINK about giving Kobe a Flagrant 1 retroactively on that elbow, they should just shut down the mothereffing league, unless they retroactively suspend Rondblow for two games.
And now with a taunting tech on Kobe? Well, it's true, Battier CAN'T guard him with the stupid hand in the face defense.
And now with a taunting tech on Kobe? Well, it's true, Battier CAN'T guard him with the stupid hand in the face defense.
Are you drunk? Fisher is a role player, artest has been the best player for the rockets this series. he showed restraint not doing anything stupid.
only reason he got tossed was because of everything happening in this game.
Oh, it's over. The Rockets riled the Lakers up. They should have let them just stay soft.
The rox aren't close to the talent level of the Lakers. The lakers sit around and get lazy all the time. They coast. Now they have been punched in the mouth, and challenged. And pissed.
If you think this isn't over...you will be singing a different tune in game 5 when LA closes it out.
Unless you think the Rox are going to win both games in Houston. Ain't gonna happen. Lakers will go up 2-1, and the meltdown by the Rox will go into hyperdrive.
Are you able to follow along? Or are you drunk? If you could follow along, maybe you'd pick up on the subtle undertones of what Klod and I were bantering about there.
"Everything happening in this game?" You mean the Rox losing their freaking composure by the boatload? Similar to another Rick Addled Man coached team that was pretty good, but mentally impotent? Even though this Lakers team is soft and lazy, Adleman still can't get his guys to nut up and not be a bitchcapade. Fisher throws a check into Scola after he whines because...uhm, because he fouled a guy. Thus, when Kobe throws an elbow like you get most plays and 99 percent of the time if you are a low post guy like Shaq, Artest decides to melt down on his own and bounce around like an idiot. Ok. Sure. That's pure reason for the Rox best player to go get ejected...and that's comparable to a guy who is lucky to be starting in the NBA getting tossed for us.
Sweet no look by Gasol !
When rockets do something it is losing composure, but fisher is manning up (btw he didn't get ejected because of scola's reaction, ref's actually looked at monitor). Yes you're a real objective observer of this series.
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Fisher's act was worse than Cheapshot Bob's on Nash. That's making the basketcourt a WWF show. If the league doesn't suspend Fisher for at least 2 games like they did Horry, they lose whatever credibility left.
And Kobe's elbow on Artest is not new either. He did it too many who dared to defend him closely, like Malone did to his defenders.
And Kobe's elbow on Artest is not new either. He did it too many who dared to defend him closely, like Malone did to his defenders.
Yes, Fisher's was manning up in retaliation. WHO did he knock down? WHEN did he do it?
When Ron did it, he was bitching and moaning. He wasn't sending any message (part of "manning up.") He wasn't going after a guy who was beating his guys up. He got mad, ran to the ref...bitched, ref had no interest, so he got into Kobe's face. Then gets himself tossed. Tell me how THAT is not losing composure.
And yes, Fisher was out of bounds, and retaliatory...but that's the definition of acting like a goon. Ron wasn't being a goon...he was being a loon. Selfish, angry and whiny. They aren't even comparable.
BTW, Scola's reaction? That was referencing the triple techs right before that. Fisher got ejected SOLELY because he knocked the living crap out of Scola. What I was talking about was that Luke baby taked Scola, and Lamar talked a gang of crap to him, but Scola needed shoved away by two refs. So end result was two Lakers get Techs, Scola gets one and the Rox get a point...then Fisher retaliates and gets ejected. Follow along, ffs.
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Oh come on. I usually don't reply because it's pointless, but seriously? Not one single poster in this thread is objective, it's an argument between Laker fans that want their team to win, and Suns fans that are determined to find fault. There isn't one single objective poster on this entire forum and if you think there is, you're insane.
This place is Laker hatrer headquarters, and well it should be, it's a Suns forum. Nothing wrong with it, but lets not try and call anyone "objective" that's just a joke.
LOL. Ok. So, your thoughts on Rondo's non-fines much less suspensions in the Chicago series?
Of course it isn't new...it's called basketball, and it isn't played by *******. It's a contact sport, and people get elbowed and fouled. Guys get bloodied and scraped and bruised. It is the game. Basketball IS a contact sport...first thing I learned when I started to play...drilled into me from day one. It's the most contact sport we have, and we don't wear pads to protect ourselves. It's a man's game. Man up, Ron.
Thank you...i didn't address that because it was idiotic to even suggest.
There are no "unbiased" on this board.
Kobe said it perfectly:
And you have a problem with that in what way....because it's Kobe? Or the Lakers? Or not your favorite team? Give me a friggin break.
I love me some Laker haters.
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Suspension?
Really, every fan of every team is completely and totally biased? Then what is the point of anyone stating there opinion if it is based on what they SHOULD be saying?
That's like saying why criticize Sean Hannity or Keith Olbermann for being biased, we expect them to be biased so no big deal. That makes no sense.
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You're singin' to the choir. Everyone thought Rondo should have been suspended.
Your version of what "man up" is opposite of mine. Fisher is a cheap shot little wuss. Artest got in the face of the person he had issue with. Did you see Artests after game interview? No melt down, simply made his point. I guess if he had waited and gave Kobe a cheap shot then he'd be a man. LOL
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Gimme a break Donald... Artest was pissed not because Koby did his thing and cheap-shoted him, but because Artest got called for the foul. Artest would gladly "man up" against Kobe all game long. But it's frustrating when the refs takes sides...
Perhaps Ron should have removed his forearm from Kobe's neck on the rebound if he didn't want to get cleared out by an elbow from Kobe.
Don't get me wrong...I think that Fish should be suspended for that..but it was a "don't think you can push us around move" from a really soft team. Something that they needed. Truly. This team is soft as the driven snow.
But Ron barking at Kobe over a simple little elbow? Come on now. Holy crap that was whiny and stupid. He may have gotten in the face of the guy he had an issue with, but at what cost? He's their best player, and he's bitching about a rebound battle down low where his elbow on the back of the neck was trumped by a super elbow clear out...so he gets tossed. Conversely, our arguably worst starter is bounced because he delivers a shocking "don't ef with us" check to a guy who just got techs on two of our guys and had been talking crap with our guys for the previous two minutes. Which one is "manning up" and which one is "being an idiot?"
I think the guy who doesn't have a big role on a lazy soft team sending a message to a physical guy is manning up more than a tough guy on a physical team is when he goes off against the other team's best player because he caught an elbow. Maybe thats just me, but I think Ron looked stupid for whining and getting tossed.
Oh please. Kobe cleared out...ron cried to the ref and got no love so he jumped in Kobe's **** like he did a few months ago..again with similar results.
If you think that was a cheap shot by Kobe in any way, I don't know if I can respect you at all, ever. Basketball is basketball. You lean on a guy and put your shoulder and forearm to their neck, expect to get cleared out. That's it. Don't whine. If you do whine, just do it to the refs. Don't ever bring that crap to the guy you were leaning on. It was a mental meltdown by Artest...who happens to be a guy I actually really like. Shocker there...I like another much maligned player.
I think he should be.
'Course I also think Rondo owes the league two games as well.
To whatever extent it is, they are. You sure aren't watching with your anti-laker bias stowed in your super-secret suns championship time capsule.
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Again, Kobe has the refs watching his back... Artest gets the foul after taking a shot to the neck...maybe not a cheapshot, but Kobe has a history of that move. Artest lost it because the ref gave Kobe the benefit of the doubt and called the foul on Artest.
Artest shouldn't have gone after Kobe afterward - that was stupid, something Artest has a history of...
Question: Now that the Lakers won the game, I wonder if the media will say they are in the Finals again. Because after the loss in game one, they were out of the playoffs and the Rockets were in the finals.
Just wondering when these hypothetical finals ever start, and if the Cavs will ever actually play an NBA franchise in that solar system, instead of all the D2 college teams in the east they square off against.
Just wondering when these hypothetical finals ever start, and if the Cavs will ever actually play an NBA franchise in that solar system, instead of all the D2 college teams in the east they square off against.
Please. PLEASE.
Kobe has a history of that because ALL basketball players have a history of that move. It's called clearing out space. Wow. He's so innovative with his cheapshots that he's bringing actual normal contact into the realm of "that move."
Waaaait...hold that thought....I feel something coming....
Getting clearer...
Clearer......
Ah, there it is. Yes, Artest DOES have a history of losing his mind over minimal issues. Thanks for pointing that out.
Why, I should have just waited for it...you were going there in your mind as well.
The announcers said Phil was asking for consistency regarding the Fisher foul because of a similar foul in the Jazz series that was only called a foul (not a flagrant).
Which players were involved in that one?
Which players were involved in that one?
