#1 or BUST! The O'Mighty DRAFT Thread

[Cheesebeef]

I'm done after this season for real. I just wanted one more young stud to make us dangerous. I think the suns will be very competitive next season.

I'm with ya.

With Ball or Fultz, Next season, I want to see progress starting to be made.

 

[Mainstreet]

I'm done after this season for real. I just wanted one more young stud to make us dangerous. I think the suns will be very competitive next season.

I'm with you about adding another talent.

However, I think the Suns need to be careful not to trade too many player assets when they are so close to rebuilding through the draft. I like what I saw on the court tonight against the Rockets. My goal is for the Suns to add a quality player in the draft and add another in free agency. If they do this, they are very close.

I'm even liking who the Suns might draft around #33.

Can't keep all the youngsters as much as I would like it sometimes.

 

[JCSunsfan]

I am thinking Len is going to be gone just because of the numbers. We just have too many good young players. We cannot keep them all.

 

[TJ]

It's much less stressful to cheer for tanking as opposed to actually winning something of significance. At least I know the Suns are terrible.

 

[hsandhu]

I'm with you about adding another talent.

However, I think the Suns need to be careful not to trade too many player assets when they are so close to rebuilding through the draft. I like what I saw on the court tonight against the Rockets. My goal is for the Suns to add a quality player in the draft and add another in free agency. If they do this, they are very close.

I'm even liking who the Suns might draft around #33.

Can't keep all the youngsters as much as I would like it sometimes.

suns shouldnt be signing anyone until summer of 19 when all the contracts, chandler/dudley/bledsoe (assume knight traded by then) are off the books.

You'll have 2 years of all the young talent developing and maybe looking good enough to attract possible big time free agents with the ton of cap room you have. I'm already looking, and kawahi, harden, butler are among the free agents that summer.


no need to lock in longer contracts this summer or next, except for extending are own people (len and warren).

 

[Mainstreet]

I am thinking Len is going to be gone just because of the numbers. We just have too many good young players. We cannot keep them all.

This could very well be. I so dislike giving up on young players though.

 

[Mainstreet]

suns shouldnt be signing anyone until summer of 19 when all the contracts, chandler/dudley/bledsoe (assume knight traded by then) are off the books.

You'll have 2 years of all the young talent developing and maybe looking good enough to attract possible big time free agents with the ton of cap room you have. I'm already looking, and kawahi, harden, butler are among the free agents that summer.


no need to lock in longer contracts this summer or next, except for extending are own people (len and warren).

I can see this strategy and I have no problem with it.

However, I'm thinking somehow, someway, McDonough will package one or more of these players you mention and a pick(s) to get a star type player. It may have to be a multi-team trade to do it.

IMO, he has assets to spend and will use them. Sarver will not be patient forever.

 

[pokerface]

I can see this strategy and I have no problem with it.

However, I'm thinking somehow, someway, McDonough will package one or more of these players you mention and a pick(s) to get a star type player. It may have to be a multi-team trade to do it.

IMO, he has assets to spend and will use them. Sarver will not be patient forever.

McD has started prior he wants to get a star and he keeps his options open in that regard. But I think (hope) he's smart enough not to pull the trigger just out of a lack of patience. If he trades it better be a very good almost a "no brainer" type deal because I really value our youth.

 

[pokerface]

I'm with you about adding another talent.

However, I think the Suns need to be careful not to trade too many player assets when they are so close to rebuilding through the draft. I like what I saw on the court tonight against the Rockets.My goal is for the Suns to add a quality player in the draft and add another in free agency. If they do this, they are very close.

I'm even liking who the Suns might draft around #33.

Can't keep all the youngsters as much as I would like it sometimes.

That would be my ideal scenario as well. Add the high draft pick with a good free agent and we are ready to roll for a few years. I think trading for a star adds a lot of pressure to win it all now. The other way we can wait it out but still enjoy good basketball watching the team grow.

 

[slinslin]

There are no good free agents this year.

Except Blake Griffin, Gordon Hayward who have no reason to sign with us.

 

[pokerface]

There are no good free agents this year.

Except Blake Griffin, Gordon Hayward who have no reason to sign with us.

Well there really isn't much pressure in adding a free agent this year per say... I'd think in two or three years it would be more beneficial as we become more of a playoff force.

 

[chickenhead]

I was discussing the merits and drawbacks of tanking vs letting the young core play together (assuming Bledsoe stays) and suspect the Suns were trying to do both until a few weeks ago when it really looked as though both Orlando and Philly might catch them, with NYK and Sacramento threatening on the outside.

The Suns may still have landed in the top 3, and may still fall out of it, because of the ping pong balls -- but the real danger was losing the 4/5 picks due to record. That's much less likely now that a couple teams would have to leap past the Nets, Suns, and Lakers via ping pong balls. And even if the Suns were to win out and Magic lose out, there would still be a coin flip between the two if neither gets a top 3.

 

[3rdside]

I also get the impression McD decided there's 3 clear cut talents in the draft - Ball, Fultz and Jackson and wants to maximise the chances landing one of them, unlike last year when there were were only 2 clear cuts in Ingram and Simmons, and we weren't catching LA and Philly...Because there were no clear cuts beyond these two, McD was comfortable winning more games than we should have towards the end of the season.

And I'm starting to think it's Jackson he wants as Bledsoe and Ulis look like an above NBA average rotation and you're getting play making (+5 assists per game) out of JJ....this, on top of what CPN broke down the other day about Bledsoe, makes a lot of sense.

 

[slinslin]

I love this 12 game winning streak, hope we can close out the season with 4 more big wins!

 

[3rdside]

Lol go suns - losing has never been so much fun.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Well there really isn't much pressure in adding a free agent this year per say... I'd think in two or three years it would be more beneficial as we become more of a playoff force.

It depends on who we draft.

If we draft Fultz or Ball, then we are eventually trading Bledsoe. So it would only make sense to wait to add a free agent until we find out what we can get for Bledsoe.

If we draft Jackson, then we do not have to trade anyone immediately, although Warren become very expendable.

The position to bolster with a FA would be center, I would think.

 

[Mainstreet]

McD has started prior he wants to get a star and he keeps his options open in that regard. But I think (hope) he's smart enough not to pull the trigger just out of a lack of patience. If he trades it better be a very good almost a "no brainer" type deal because I really value our youth.

That would be my ideal scenario as well. Add the high draft pick with a good free agent and we are ready to roll for a few years. I think trading for a star adds a lot of pressure to win it all now. The other way we can wait it out but still enjoy good basketball watching the team grow.

As JC points out, it begins who the Suns draft. This puts the different scenarios in play. As I look at the Suns roster they are in position to draft BPA. Then the options become more clear after that. The Suns could look to trade or free agency to add another key player. My gut feeling the Suns will look to trade for a quality player (hopefully moving Knight) with a draft pick(s).

Trading for a top player or adding one in free agency is easier said than done.

 

[pokerface]

Was over on the Lakers board...What a bunch of desperados. They're hoping we beat golden state because they're resting players.. Hey LA fans you play GS too at the end of the season... Don't you know your own schedule?? They say things like the suns should "get some pride" while all they do is moan over winning..Haha. They're running scared!

 

[pokerface]

Im looking forward to Friday. Kings@Lakers


I just hope the suns are taking care of business! We can't let up for a second ...We can still tank harder...Find a way McD!

 

[slinslin]

I don't see how the Suns could draft Jackson over Tatum. Tatum looks like a much better fit and looks like he could match up really well in the frontcourt with either Warren or Chriss or even both.

 

[pokerface]

I don't see how the Suns could draft Jackson over Tatum. Tatum looks like a much better fit and looks like he could match up really well in the frontcourt with either Warren or Chriss or even both.

If the suns draft Tatum I'd accept it. Maybe after workouts they'll know more.

 

[JCSunsfan]

I don't see how the Suns could draft Jackson over Tatum. Tatum looks like a much better fit and looks like he could match up really well in the frontcourt with either Warren or Chriss or even both.

I know you don't like his off-the-court issues, but just as a player, Jackson just seems much more dynamic than Tatum. He is more of an athlete, better defender, better passer, plays better off-ball. I am curious what you see in Tatum over Jackson. I am more interested in a discussion here than an argument.

To me, Tatum doesn't seem alot different than TJ.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

I know you don't like his off-the-court issues, but just as a player, Jackson just seems much more dynamic than Tatum. He is more of an athlete, better defender, better passer, plays better off-ball. I am curious what you see in Tatum over Jackson. I am more interested in a discussion here than an argument.

To me, Tatum doesn't seem alot different than TJ.

Would love to hear it as well. Jackson has his issues, but his playmaking ability and defense makes him a far better fit IMO.

 

[slinslin]

Tatum is far better at actual playmaking in my opinion. Jackson might be better at passing the ball around but Tatum can create and can score in every way. Plus Tatum is a good defender also. He is just simply a more advanced overall player than Jackson, has no baggage, better size, better shooter and a full year younger.

 

[pokerface]

Tatum is far better at actual playmaking in my opinion. Jackson might be better at passing the ball around but Tatum can create and can score in every way. Plus Tatum is a good defender also. He is just simply a more advanced overall player than Jackson, has no baggage, better size, better shooter and a full year younger.

Well my understanding is Jackson is a better defender and more athletic. Your "baggage" is overrated BS. A year younger doesn't mean anything...It's just something to say. Jackson being a better passer and better defender is something the suns need more than Tatum's scoring.