#1 or BUST! The O'Mighty DRAFT Thread

[slinslin]

Wade was never ever as good a passer or playmaker or shooter as Fultz.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

Wade was never ever as good a passer or playmaker or shooter as Fultz.

This. Just don't see the Wade comparison.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Are you guys saying that fultz is a going to be a better player than wade? I think that's what I'm reading from slin and cardssunsdbacks. I just want to be sure what it is you're saying.

 

[pokerface]

Are you guys saying that fultz is a going to be a better player than wade? I think that's what I'm reading from slin and cardssunsdbacks. I just want to be sure what it is you're saying.

I don't know anything about that but I read somewhere he could be the next Bledsoe. Not sure I'm totally digging that for our team. I think we need a facilitator like Ball or even Jackson. Booker, Chriss, and Warren should be fed the ball.

 

[hsandhu]

Lakers beat spurs, they did everything to lose!

Sat deangelo, barely played ingram, gave 4th qtr minutes to nwaba and artest and still won. .. because pop barely played his starters and played bertans, Forbes big minutes, ha!

I wouldn't put it past pop to want to screw the lakers for long term.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Wow. Tyler Ennis leads the Lakers in the win over the Spurs.

I just ran tankathon 10 times. (I had told myself I wouldn't do it). We had a top 3 pick 9 of the 10 times.

Cheering for every Suns game like this.

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[Mainstreet]

Wow. Tyler Ennis leads the Lakers in the win over the Spurs.

I just ran tankathon 10 times. (I had told myself I wouldn't do it). We had a top 3 pick 9 of the 10 times.

Cheering for every Suns game like this.

Go Tyler!

 

[Phrazbit]

Lakers beat spurs, they did everything to lose!

Sat deangelo, barely played ingram, gave 4th qtr minutes to nwaba and artest and still won. .. because pop barely played his starters and played bertans, Forbes big minutes, ha!

I wouldn't put it past pop to want to screw the lakers for long term.

If the Lakers wanna lose they probably should have let Ingram play, he has been dreadful this year. The only mitigation is that he is "only 19".

 

[GatorAZ]

Man how sweet would it be to see the Lakers drop back and lose their pick which would also mean they lose their 2019 pick to Orlando.

 

[pokerface]

Man how sweet would it be to see the Lakers drop back and lose their pick which would also mean they lose their 2019 pick to Orlando.

We would own them clowns for a VERY long time.

 

[Sunburn]

Man how sweet would it be to see the Lakers drop back and lose their pick which would also mean they lose their 2019 pick to Orlando.

There's a very good chance of this with the Lakers in the 3 spot as at least one team usually makes a jump in the draft.

 

[hsandhu]

Lot of laker fans thinking pop did it on purpose to screw them, i wouldn't put I beyond him.

He was very pissed about the gasol trade in 2008, saying maybe nba should have a common sense trade commision.
If he can potentially set back the nba's number 1 franchise for many years in a meaningless game, why not?

Maybe other teams can help us, Dallas and sacramento don't rest your starters against us, great payback on an organization you both hate!

 

[Errntknght]

If the Lakers wanna lose they probably should have let Ingram play, he has been dreadful this year. The only mitigation is that he is "only 19".

Very true and Ennis isn't far behind Russell when it comes to running the offense - and he happened to have a good game shooting. Nwaba is the teams most efficient offensive player, plus Thomas Robinson and Tarick Black are both good in that regard - not big scorers but they don't hurt you on the offensive end. What they should have done is have Clarkson run the offense...

 

[pokerface]

Lot of laker fans thinking pop did it on purpose to screw them, i wouldn't put I beyond him.

He was very pissed about the gasol trade in 2008, saying maybe nba should have a common sense trade commision.
If he can potentially set back the nba's number 1 franchise for many years in a meaningless game, why not?

Maybe other teams can help us, Dallas and sacramento don't rest your starters against us, great payback on an organization you both hate!

The spurs helped but the suns are the ones that are behind sinking the Lakers. Its the pick because of the Nash trade is the reason they're in this mess. Now the suns are passing them and lowering their odds a little.

Let's just hope everything works out...For us!

 

[slinslin]

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I don't know anything about that but I read somewhere he could be the next Bledsoe. Not sure I'm totally digging that for our team. I think we need a facilitator like Ball or even Jackson. Booker, Chriss, and Warren should be fed the ball.

doubt anyone with half a braincell would draw that comparison.

 

[slinslin]

Are you guys saying that fultz is a going to be a better player than wade? I think that's what I'm reading from slin and cardssunsdbacks. I just want to be sure what it is you're saying.

He is a better prospect than Wade was.

Not sure what the point is though, there have been a couple of players drafted since Wade that are better than Wade.

It shouldn't shock anyone if Fultz turned out better.

 

[pokerface]

I

doubt anyone with half a braincell would draw that comparison.

Well tell me some differences

 

[slinslin]

It would be easier to tell me some similarities because besides both being black point guards and both being more of the quiet type is about all they have in common.

Fultz is a tantalizingly gifted shot-creator, sporting an extraordinary combination of body control, ball-handling, footwork and pace. He changes speeds, directions and uses both hands innately, spinning off opponents, splitting ball-screens frequently, and finishing with euro-steps. He combines his ability to get wherever he wants on the floor with outstanding shot-making prowess off the dribble, making 42% of his pull-up jumpers on the season, with his 1.02 PPP ranking second best among draft prospects. At his best with the ball in his hands, Fultz ranked as the second most efficient prospect in college basketball in pick and roll situations, both as a passer or scorer, according to Synergy Sports Technology. He is highly creative and unselfish in terms of getting teammates easy baskets, and enjoyed quite a bit of success as a distributor despite not having ideal talent around him or enjoying great spacing, often sharing the floor with two non-shooting big men. Fultz's 36% assist percentage ranks second best in this draft behind only Jawun Evans, and he doesn't turn the ball over excessively at 13.3%. He will look even better in the NBA when surrounded with better spacing and more shooters around him, as he uses both hands to distribute, sees the weak-side and strong side equally effectively thanks to his outstanding size, court vision and super high basketball IQ. As good as Fultz is on the ball, he also has significant potential operating alongside another ball-handler with his excellent size, length and frame, giving his future NBA coach plenty of lineup flexibility. He made 38% of catch and shoot jumpers on the season according to Synergy, and even shows some budding ability to come off screens and rise up smoothly to create separation. - Source: http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Markelle-Fultz-90302/ ©DraftExpress

 

[slinslin]

Lakers

home vs Sacramento on Friday
home vs Minnesota on Sunday
home vs New Orleans Tuesday
away at Golden State on Wednesday

We lose against OKC on Friday
home vs Dallas on Sunday
away at Sacramento on Tuesday

Hopefully we can afford to beat Dallas because I don't see us losing that game unless we sit Devin Booker.
Very confident the Lakers will win 1 more game though.

 

[3rdside]

He is a better prospect than Wade was.

Not sure what the point is though, there have been a couple of players drafted since Wade that are better than Wade.

It shouldn't shock anyone if Fultz turned out better.

Wade has won three titles, that's the one - ultimate - statistic that isn't drawn out in individual player statistics when trying to work out who's better than who....So yes, it would shock me if he turns out better than wade.

But if he does then please goddamit let it be with us.

 

[slinslin]

As if NBA titles are an individual achievement. Wade was never the best player on a championship team.

First it was the last elite year of Shaq and then it was Lebron. Not many NBA stars have the luxury of having such teammates.

 

[3rdside]

As if NBA titles are an individual achievement. Wade was never the best player on a championship team.

First it was the last elite year of Shaq and then it was Lebron. Not many NBA stars have the luxury of having such teammates.

Yes I see your point when it comes to Wade but they shouldn't be discounted entirely. He was the man when Shaq was in town.

 

[ColdPickleNachos]

As if NBA titles are an individual achievement. Wade was never the best player on a championship team.

First it was the last elite year of Shaq and then it was Lebron. Not many NBA stars have the luxury of having such teammates.

Wade was not only the Finals MVP in 2006, but he averaged over 27 ppg in the regular season and over 28 ppg in the playoffs. That was the year where he got to the line over and over again (James Harden before James Harden) and practically willed his team to the championship. Shall was still good, but he wasn't the best player on that team. Wade was.

 

[slinslin]

Wade was not only the Finals MVP in 2006, but he averaged over 27 ppg in the regular season and over 28 ppg in the playoffs. That was the year where he got to the line over and over again (James Harden before James Harden) and practically willed his team to the championship. Shall was still good, but he wasn't the best player on that team. Wade was.

If memory serves me right Shaq finished 2nd in MVP voting behind Nash that year.

 

[ColdPickleNachos]

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Voting Per Game Shooting Advanced
Rank Player Age Tm First Pts Won Pts Max Share G MP PTS TRB AST STL BLK FG% 3P% FT% WS WS/48
1 Steve Nash 31 PHO 57.0 924.0 1250 0.739 79 35.4 18.8 4.2 10.5 0.8 0.2 .512 .439 .921 12.4 .212
2 LeBron James 21 CLE 16.0 688.0 1250 0.550 79 42.5 31.4 7.0 6.6 1.6 0.8 .480 .335 .738 16.3 .232
3 Dirk Nowitzki 27 DAL 14.0 544.0 1250 0.435 81 38.1 26.6 9.0 2.8 0.7 1.0 .480 .406 .901 17.7 .275
4 Kobe Bryant 27 LAL 22.0 483.0 1250 0.386 80 41.0 35.4 5.3 4.5 1.8 0.4 .450 .347 .850 15.3 .224
5 Chauncey Billups 29 DET 15.0 430.0 1250 0.344 81 36.1 18.5 3.1 8.6 0.9 0.1 .418 .433 .894 15.5 .254
6 Dwyane Wade 24 MIA 0.0 87.0 1250 0.070 75 38.6 27.2 5.7 6.7 1.9 0.8 .495 .171 .783 14.4 .239
7 Elton Brand 26 LAC 1.0 50.0 1250 0.040 79 39.2 24.7 10.0 2.6 1.0 2.5 .527 .333 .775 14.8 .229
8 Tim Duncan 29 SAS 0.0 33.0 1250 0.026 80 34.8 18.6 11.0 3.2 0.9 2.0 .484 .400 .629 10.8 .187
9 Tony Parker 23 SAS 0.0 9.0 1250 0.007 80 33.9 18.9 3.3 5.8 1.0 0.1 .548 .306 .707 9.6 .169
10T Allen Iverson 30 PHI 0.0 1.0 1250 0.001 72 43.1 33.0 3.2 7.4 1.9 0.1 .447 .323 .814 10.6 .165
10T Shawn Marion 27 PHO 0.0 1.0 1250 0.001 81 40.3 21.8 11.8 1.8 2.0 1.7 .525 .331 .809 14.6 .214