15 names I am fine with at 15

[Chopper0080]

Some of these guys won't be available, but I wanted to provide 15 names of players that I would be ok with the Cardinals taking at 15. (no particular order)

1-Sam Darnold-QB
-Best QB in the class

2-Josh Rosen-QB
-QB who is ready to step in the fastest

3-Baker Mayfield
-I wouldn't trade up for him, but you almost have to take him at 15 if he is there

4-Josh Allen
-See above

5-Saquon Barkley
-Special player. Freak athlete. DJ would not stop me from drafting him.

6-Billy Price
-Smart, physical presence at the pivot.

7-Quenton Nelson
-A flat out beast. Seems to be a lock.

8-Bradley Chubb
-4-3 DE edge player with nice size

9-Vita Vea
-Freak athlete for a guy his size. Has shown he can play a ton of snaps.

10-Tremaine Edmunds
-19 years old and a special player

11-Leighton Vander Esch
-Great size and athleticism

12-Roquon Smith
-Small but quick. A true LB.

13-Minkah Fitzpatrick
-Younger, cheaper, and healthier Tyrann Mathieu

14-Josh Jackson
-Long and fast playmaker outside...checks off all of the boxes

15-Derwin James
-Big and physical freak at S. You can find a spot to play him.

 

[BW52]

Baker Mayfield-not that impressed with him.Short QB with questionable arm strength according to several scouts.I don`t dislike the guy i just don`t see a guy whose skills bring enough to be more than a average QB at best and not a real difference maker.

Josh Allen-I honestly have mixed feelings about the Cards and Him.You have to like the size and arm strength but can he read defenses and his accuracy issues?

Billy Price-he is a damned good player but Cards have bigger needs elsewhere and Price could still be around RD2.

Quenton Nelson Hell yes.Would love to see him in Round 1 .Instant OLINE upgrade .Starter from Day 1.

Vita Vea-another hell yes.Beast plugging the inside.

Rosen,Darnold,Barkley and Chubb probably all gone by 15.

 

[Capital Card]

Billy Price at 15? I think he'd be a great addition and he's very likely to be there, but seems like a high pick for his position.


Kind of surprised you didn't have the UCF CB Hughes on your list. Being from the NC area, I'd assume Keim is well dialed into him. He's a name on my short list for my 2018 mock.

 

[Ohcrap75]

Great list. Mine would be pretty close. I'm not as high on Price, so would switch him and Lamar. James Daniels, Isaiah Wynn, Denzel Ward and Taven Bryan would be in consideration too. I have the same feeling you do with Baker and Allen.

 

[Chopper0080]

Billy Price at 15? I think he'd be a great addition and he's very likely to be there, but seems like a high pick for his position.


Kind of surprised you didn't have the UCF CB Hughes on your list. Being from the NC area, I'd assume Keim is well dialed into him. He's a name on my short list for my 2018 mock.

Hughes is a one year wonder. Now, maybe this is the norm, but he was at UCF for one year, and was at a Community College the year before. Lack of production and baggage keep me away at 15.

C is arguably the most important position on the offensive line. Not sure why you wouldn't take a top C at 15.

 

[Chopper0080]

Baker Mayfield-not that impressed with him.Short QB with questionable arm strength according to several scouts.I don`t dislike the guy i just don`t see a guy whose skills bring enough to be more than a average QB at best and not a real difference maker.

Josh Allen-I honestly have mixed feelings about the Cards and Him.You have to like the size and arm strength but can he read defenses and his accuracy issues?

Billy Price-he is a damned good player but Cards have bigger needs elsewhere and Price could still be around RD2.

Quenton Nelson Hell yes.Would love to see him in Round 1 .Instant OLINE upgrade .Starter from Day 1.

Vita Vea-another hell yes.Beast plugging the inside.

Rosen,Darnold,Barkley and Chubb probably all gone by 15.

I get the hesitation on Mayfield and Allen. I fould prefer Mayfield, Allen and Lamar Jackson in round 2, but I don't see that happening. IF you are staying at 15, you have to take a QB with issues who you can develop into something more. I believe the issues of Mayfield and Allen are easier to correct than Lamar Jackson's, but at some point, you have to take a shot. IF Allen or Mayfield are available at 15, the team almost HAS to take them.

 

[Chopper0080]

For those who are questioning Billy Price at 15...the one constant Arizona has had in all the years they have had a bad offensive line is a bad to mediocre C. We have had decent OGs and OTs, but never anything close to a top end C.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

For those who are questioning Billy Price at 15...the one constant Arizona has had in all the years they have had a bad offensive line is a bad to mediocre C. We have had decent OGs and OTs, but never anything close to a top end C.

When it comes to center, I expect those guys to slide.

Isiah Wynn, or Billy Price in the 2nd or Frank Ragnow in the 3rd, Bradley Bozeman in the later rounds. All good options that I see.

 

[cardncubfan]

Baker Mayfield-not that impressed with him.Short QB with questionable arm strength according to several scouts.I don`t dislike the guy i just don`t see a guy whose skills bring enough to be more than a average QB at best and not a real difference maker.

Josh Allen-I honestly have mixed feelings about the Cards and Him.You have to like the size and arm strength but can he read defenses and his accuracy issues?

Billy Price-he is a damned good player but Cards have bigger needs elsewhere and Price could still be around RD2.

Quenton Nelson Hell yes.Would love to see him in Round 1 .Instant OLINE upgrade .Starter from Day 1.

Vita Vea-another hell yes.Beast plugging the inside.

Rosen,Darnold,Barkley and Chubb probably all gone by 15.

You are not impressed with Baker Mayfield but you love Lamar Jackson? Mayfield is tops in pretty much every major stat. Completion %, yds, etc.

 

[Chopper0080]

When it comes to center, I expect those guys to slide.

Isiah Wynn, or Billy Price in the 2nd or Frank Ragnow in the 3rd, Bradley Bozeman in the later rounds. All good options that I see.

The argument for NOT taking Billy Price at 15 is James Daniels, Mason Cole, and Frank Ragnow. It is a pretty good C class.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

My Pre-Combine fine 15 for the Cardinals (For the Cardinals = Excludes S.Barkley, M.McGlenchy, O.Brown, D.Grice)

1. Lamar Jackson, QB <-- You know it!
2. Sam Darnold, QB
3. Josh Rosen, QB
4. Baker Mayfield, QB
5. Bradley Chubb, DE
6. Josh Allen, QB
7. Roquan Smith, ILB
8. Quenton Nelson, G
9. Derwin James, S
10. Vita Vea, DT
11. Joshua Jackson, CB
12. Courtland Sutton, WR
13. Da'Ron Payne, DT
14. Minkah Fitzpatrick, CB/S
15. Calvin Ridley, WR

 

[RugbyMuffin]

You are not impressed with Baker Mayfield but you love Lamar Jackson? Mayfield is tops in pretty much every major stat. Completion %, yds, etc.

That is why it is an opinion.

If you are going to pick a mobile QB with a good arm, then get the more mobile QB with the better arm. JMHO.

 

[Chopper0080]

I need to watch more Derwin James tape. I never thought he would make it out of the top 10 but it seems it is likely.

 

[Chopper0080]

My Pre-Combine fine 15 for the Cardinals (For the Cardinals = Excludes S.Barkley, M.McGlenchy, O.Brown, D.Grice)

1. Lamar Jackson, QB <-- You know it!
2. Sam Darnold, QB
3. Josh Rosen, QB
4. Baker Mayfield, QB
5. Bradley Chubb, DE
6. Josh Allen, QB
7. Roquan Smith, ILB
8. Quenton Nelson, G
9. Derwin James, S
10. Vita Vea, DT
11. Joshua Jackson, CB
12. Courtland Sutton, WR
13. Da'Ron Payne, DT
14. Minkah Fitzpatrick, CB/S
15. Calvin Ridley, WR

I could deal with Lamar Jackson, but then you added two WRs to the list. I can't take you seriously anymore. I thought your list would show me more respect than this.

 

[cardncubfan]

That is why it is an opinion.

If you are going to pick a mobile QB with a good arm, then get the more mobile QB with the better arm. JMHO.

BM is mobile. Just not like LJ. I get that it's an opinion. I just think it's more homerism. Nothing wrong with it.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

You are not impressed with Baker Mayfield but you love Lamar Jackson? Mayfield is tops in pretty much every major stat. Completion %, yds, etc.

I'm in the same boat. I predict Lamar will have a better NFL career. Just an opinion after watching both of them.

 

[GimmedaBall]

Believe Billy Price may be off the list---possible torn pectoral muscle during the bench press:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...ate-ol-billy-price-suffers-partially-torn-pec

 

[Chopper0080]

Believe Billy Price may be off the list---possible torn pectoral muscle during the bench press:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...ate-ol-billy-price-suffers-partially-torn-pec

Might not require surgery, and I don't expect it to cause him to miss time. He had 55 straight starts at Ohio St.

 

[cardncubfan]

I'm in the same boat. I predict Lamar will have a better NFL career. Just an opinion after watching both of them.

I disagree & will leave it at that.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Hopefully that will make Price slide into round 2. He's been working at LeCharles Bentley's classes. One guy you left off the list was Denzel Ward.

 

[GimmedaBall]

Might not require surgery, and I don't expect it to cause him to miss time. He had 55 straight starts at Ohio St.

Of Chopper0080's list of 15---that's probably going to drop him down to #15 in terms of availability come draft time. Would you take him then even with the pectoral injury?

 

[BW52]

You are not impressed with Baker Mayfield but you love Lamar Jackson? Mayfield is tops in pretty much every major stat. Completion %, yds, etc.

Lamar Jackson by a mile over Mayfield.I watched Lamar Jackson for 3 years.I have seen what he can do.I think Lamar has a better chance at being a real impact player than Mayfield.Thats my opinion.To each his own.I don`t think Mayfield will ever bbe more than a average starter at best if that much.

 

[Finito]

Hughes is a one year wonder. Now, maybe this is the norm, but he was at UCF for one year, and was at a Community College the year before. Lack of production and baggage keep me away at 15.

C is arguably the most important position on the offensive line. Not sure why you wouldn't take a top C at 15.

No it's not and its not even close. There is a reason why the top LT goes in the top 10 every single year and the top C is at the back of the first or early second.

 

[Finito]

Of Chopper0080's list of 15---that's probably going to drop him down to #15 in terms of availability come draft time. Would you take him then even with the pectoral injury?

He was never going that high healthy.

 

[GimmedaBall]

He was never going that high healthy.

I was going along with Chopper's original list.