2002 Lakers vs. Kings play-offs fixed?

[Cheesebeef]

Good find. Very tongue in cheek, but yes *kablewey* = head exploding from inability to process the awesomeness.

So you are right...this time.

Those celebrations are all far more cool than Mini Mi acting like the big nutted squirrel gif, though. You don't even need perspective for that. Kings fans were probably embarrassed.

you mean like my die-hard Laker fan friends were embarassed by Kobe this year? You're probably right. None of those celebrations are cool.

 

[D-Dogg]

Despite any fixing that may or may not have happened, nothing changes the fact that the Kings were collossal chokers. The multiple missed FTs in game 7 that allowed the OT was huge. They showed the ability to choke in their Game 3 win.

Insane sequence here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMmmxG4Nkpo

14 points rolled off in less than a minute. 14-0 run. Unreal.

 

[Andrew]

I remember that sequence...it was and still is unreal.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Despite any fixing that may or may not have happened, nothing changes the fact that the Kings were collossal chokers. The multiple missed FTs in game 7 that allowed the OT was huge. They showed the ability to choke in their Game 3 win.

I've got a question. If Kobe and the boys go on to lose this series, will you label them collosal chokers as well as the overwhelming majority will having been members of one of only 8 teams all time in the history of the sport to blow up a 3-1 lead (to a rather pathetic Suns team missing multiple starters while completely falling apart at the end of the season) while also being victim of the greatest single game collapse in NBA Finals history?

as far asthe Kings were concerned, man they had a lot going against them if the eilimation game was indeed rigged. I mean, a) you do realize that if there wasn't any fix, there wouldn't have been a Game 7, right? Or that they played 4 games of that series without Peja. Now before we play "Donald walks himself into a corner again", do I have to remind you that you steadfastly use the Karl Malone injury as an excuse as to why the Lakers thoroughly got their asses pounded by the Pistons in the Finals? I mean, Playing a fixed game, losing an All-Star and you still take it 7... at least they didn't roll over and die.

 

[D-Dogg]

I've got a question. If Kobe and the boys go on to lose this series, will you label them collosal chokers as well as the overwhelming majority will having been members of one of only 8 teams all time in the history of the sport to blow up a 3-1 lead (to a rather pathetic Suns team missing multiple starters while completely falling apart at the end of the season) while also being victim of the greatest single game collapse in NBA Finals history?

You are spinning so much these days cheese. I don't even think you have a focus on what you are trying to ask. I don't have a clue what your second paragraph is even asking.

Your first paragraph above at least has a question stuffed in there that I can address.

Yes, if they lose, they will be collossal chokers. Their inability to hold leads from first quarters and halves is huge. Their inability to shoot from the line in this series is horrid. Their failure at defensive adjustments when lineups change because of injury (on Phil) is mindblowingly dumb. Odom being a ghost for most of the series. Poor bench play. Basically, all strengths this year have gone out the window. Yeah, I would chock this series up to choking. They couldn't even finish their own massive comeback in game 2. Digging that hole in the first place is dumb.

 

[D-Dogg]

here's another classy tag.

abomb blows donald,

When is the author going to man up?



Not like I don't know who it is already.

 

[Cheesebeef]

You are spinning so much these days cheese. I don't even think you have a focus on what you are trying to ask. I don't have a clue what your second paragraph is even asking.

Your first paragraph above at least has a question stuffed in there that I can address.

just saying the Kings were up against it without an All-Star for four games and a possibly fixed elimination game. The fact they took that series to 7 down a man for 4 games and possibly against 8 men in another is nothing to sneeze at. As far as the Karl Malone thing, I know you're fond of using that as an excuse why the Lakers got the ever living snot kicked out of them in 2004 so I threw it in there to head you off at the pass just in case you threw out a "Peja wouldn't have made a difference".

Just saying, if that Game 6 was fixed I don't think you can accurately say anything about what that Kings team was or was not. Did they have their shot in Game 7? Absolutely. But if it's possible there would have never been a Game 7 (and it looked that way until the deluge of FTs in the fourth), they beat the Lakers, plain and simple.

Yes, if they lose, they will be collossal chokers.

a) fair enough.

Their inability to hold leads from first quarters and halves is huge. Their inability to shoot from the line in this series is horrid. Their failure at defensive adjustments when lineups change because of injury (on Phil) is mindblowingly dumb. Odom being a ghost for most of the series. Poor bench play. Basically, all strengths this year have gone out the window. Yeah, I would chock this series up to choking. They couldn't even finish their own massive comeback in game 2. Digging that hole in the first place is dumb.

b) wow, I agree with a lot of the above, but come on... you couldn't even type Kobe's name in there as part of the reason you guys are in this situation. Are you telling me he hasn't had a role in what's been a pretty disappointing series after being heavily favored Donald... are you in fact Kobe Bryant!?

 

[Cheesebeef]

here's another classy tag.



When is the author going to man up?



Not like I don't know who it is already.

what the hell are the tags anyway? I'm gone for six weeks and this place looks more cluttered than the skies lining Santa Monica Boulevard. I don't really care one way or another... just took an adjustment.

and i agree... whoever's doing those tags... just lame.

 

[D-Dogg]

just saying the Kings were up against it without an All-Star for four games and a possibly fixed elimination game. The fact they took that series to 7 down a man for 4 games and possibly against 8 men in another is nothing to sneeze at. As far as the Karl Malone thing, I know you're fond of using that as an excuse why the Lakers got the ever living snot kicked out of them in 2004 so I threw it in there to head you off at the pass just in case you threw out a "Peja wouldn't have made a difference".

Just saying, if that Game 6 was fixed I don't think you can accurately say anything about what that Kings team was or was not. Did they have their shot in Game 7? Absolutely. But if it's possible there would have never been a Game 7 (and it looked that way until the deluge of FTs in the fourth), they beat the Lakers, plain and simple.



a) fair enough.



b) wow, I agree with a lot of the above, but come on... you couldn't even type Kobe's name in there as part of the reason you guys are in this situation. Are you telling me he hasn't had a role in what's been a pretty disappointing series after being heavily favored Donald... are you in fact Kobe Bryant!?

I'm still a little shocked we were so heavily favored. I know why, but still...the Celtics were crowned back in the offseason. They struggled in the playoffs, but still should have been an even money bet to win.

And I assumed Kobe would be figured in there...especially in the missed free throws category. I've said elsewhere that he shot way too much in the 4th of the last game, and I get very angry with his play on the perimeter and hesitancy to drive. The only good game he's had was game 3, and in that one I said out loud that I expected Hack a Kobe to be employed, he was that bad from the line.

The Lakers can't get all on the same page at the same time. I don't see why they'd be able to do it 3 times in a row. They overachieved to get here, but they damn sure choked this series away once they arrived.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I'm still a little shocked we were so heavily favored. I know why, but still...the Celtics were crowned back in the offseason. They struggled in the playoffs, but still should have been an even money bet to win.

And I assumed Kobe would be figured in there...especially in the missed free throws category. I've said elsewhere that he shot way too much in the 4th of the last game, and I get very angry with his play on the perimeter and hesitancy to drive. The only good game he's had was game 3, and in that one I said out loud that I expected Hack a Kobe to be employed, he was that bad from the line.

The Lakers can't get all on the same page at the same time. I don't see why they'd be able to do it 3 times in a row. They overachieved to get here, but they damn sure choked this series away once they arrived.

you reallly think they overachieved to get here? I expected them to roll through the playoffs. I've had a horrific six weeks where I flew home to Phoenix on Cinco De Mayo only to endure two grueling back surgeries and being stuck in my parent's house in Phoenix the last six weeks (and still here... ugh) and I said the only good thing about this nightmare was that I didn't have to be in LA to endure the myopia and Laker flags as they rolled through everyone in the West and won the title.

The Nuggets were a joke, the Jazz were decent but you and I both talked about how we thought they'd probably beat them in 5 or 6 and this Spurs team was done last year until the Suns imploded, not to mention you guys are much younger, more athletic and a matchup nightmare for them.

 

[D-Dogg]

you reallly think they overachieved to get here? I expected them to roll through the playoffs. I've had a horrific six weeks where I flew home to Phoenix on Cinco De Mayo only to endure two grueling back surgeries and being stuck in my parent's house in Phoenix the last six weeks (and still here... ugh) and I said the only good thing about this nightmare was that I didn't have to be in LA to endure the myopia and Laker flags as they rolled through everyone in the West and won the title.

The Nuggets were a joke, the Jazz were decent but you and I both talked about how we thought they'd probably beat them in 5 or 6 and this Spurs team was done last year until the Suns imploded, not to mention you guys are much younger, more athletic and a matchup nightmare for them.

I'm more using it as from offseason's "Do Something" to "Trade me" to early season 9-8 to "Oh crap bynum is hurt" to "Holy crap we traded that for pau?" to the Finals. So maybe the right word isn't overachieved

Yeah, once the postseason began, they way it went down was picture perfect. I think more of the growth/maturation/additions to the team that they went from 8 seed expectations to the Finals. Not that they didn't deserve the seeding or the Finals, but they sure have underachieved on the biggest stage, as a team...when they got here as a team.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I'm more using it as from offseason's "Do Something" to "Trade me" to early season 9-8 to "Oh crap bynum is hurt" to "Holy crap we traded that for pau?" to the Finals. So maybe the right word isn't overachieved

Yeah, once the postseason began, they way it went down was picture perfect. I think more of the growth/maturation/additions to the team that they went from 8 seed expectations to the Finals. Not that they didn't deserve the seeding or the Finals, but they sure have underachieved on the biggest stage, as a team...when they got here as a team.

i think it'll be really interesting to see who gets contracts from the Lakers in the offseason and what kind of contracts they get. Sasha's probably gonna want the full MLE and be able to get it from someone, Ronny should be able to pull 2.5 or so and what do they do with Bynum? They've already got a pretty steep payroll... now they obviously keep Bynum, but at what cost and is Buss willing to spend A LOT of money in LT maintaining their depth?

 

[hsandhu]

What's the deal with bynum? For people who follow the lakers closely is there serious concern about his durability (as a laker hater, of course I hope so).

From the outside it sure the hell looks like it.

I think this finals loss can be huge for them. If they win, odom/gasol have some of the unclutchness beaten out of them for the simple fact they are #2/#3 on a team winning it all. Then they come back with bynum (even if he is not durable, they already won w/o him). They are setup to win 2, maybe 3 more rings going forward.

Now they lose, more pressure on odom/gasol as chokers and there is extra pressure on bynum as the guy to get them over the hump. All of sudden I could seriously see them not getting any rings out of this run.

 

[D-Dogg]

Bynum is going to be fine. He had buildup behind his kneecap, which affected his attempt to return from the injury without surgery. He had artho to clean out the deposits, and he's looking good now. No more swelling, everything back in order. He'll be at training camp.

 

[SirStefan32]

This is really interesting:

http://www.82games.com/lakerskingsgame6.htm


It's really long (thatswhatshesaid) but rather interesting.

 

[Splinters81]

I really can't remember in detail what happened in said game, but anyone ever think Tim might be trying to divert blame on someone else? I mean really, the game was iffy but to take his word on a whole series being fixed is moronic.

To think that Donaghy was the only person was involved is moronic.

Completely off base but, to think Michael Vick was the only football player dog fighting is moronic. Michael Vick was guilty of being the first one caught. Not saying what he did was right, but it is not a surprise that people are fighting dogs.

Basically he was not the only person involved, the whole damn NBA is fixed and something needs to be done.

 

[Splinters81]

Congratulations...you have just earned yourself an all expense paid trip to "Reading Comprehension is Cool" summer camp so you can bone up on what is reality and what is fiction. Because obviously, you have no freaking clue. You've got a voucher for a second session as well, since your "blatant" inability to figure it out the first time means you will likely need a repeat class.

Why is this D Bag on an Arizona Sports Fan again?

 

[green machine]

Why is this D Bag on an Arizona Sports Fan again?

Because he's a die hard Cardinals fan, and this site is mainly for the Cards.

I'm not going to lie, I have no problem with his (or most of the residential Lakers fans') contributions to the board, as they are true fans of their teams, and that earns my respect.