I'd advise you to use facts. Even if you cherry pick your stats 12.9 and 9.3 is not a double-double no matter how you want to twist it.
I did. I didn't throw out garbage names without any stats and say they were better than Gortat. You did.
How is showing stats cherry picking? I showed you all his stats since the trade. I showed you what he has done since the adjustment period defined by Gentry...not me.
Speaking of Chery picking your #1 argument to date has been +/-. What a joke. Talk about cherry picking.
If Gortat was one of the best centers in the NBA we wouldn't be 9-16 or something since the allstar game, FACT.
The overrating of Gortat is hilarious.
What the hell are you talking about? So let me get this straight, Gortat can't be one of the best Centers since the team is 9-16 or whatever your saying but Nash can?
Hey slinslin, you better tell that to Nash. He can't possibly be one of the best PG because of how the team played all season. While your at it...tell Amare too because his team has been .500 or worse most of the season.
Dude.....YOU ARE HILARIOUS!!!!!
And yes Gortat is overrated if you go by people who claim he is a top 10 center, he is not.
And an almost double double is not a double double, There are many players who almost average a double double at a slower pace too and without Nash feeding them.
And we posted why he is. Missing a double double by less than a rebound is splitting hairs. First off he had to get used to his team. Since that initial time frame his #'s are some of the best in the league among centers. That is a FACT.
Nash doesn't fee him rebounds and oh by the way, if it was so easy to get spoon fed by Nash than explain why your boy Lopez couldn't put up bigger numbers with Nash? Why can't other guys on this team score because of Nash? Nash can spoon feed you all day but you still have to have the talent to put it in.
Lopez is a prime example.
AGAIN...your argument falls apart.
Gortat is an average starting center and it is unrealistic to expect huge improvement from a 27 year old that has only played 3 good months on a bad team and spoon-fed by the best passer in the league to suddenly jump into the top 5 at his position especially when Nash is gone.
The good thing with Gortat is that he is signed long term for a reasonable cost if he can keep playing at his current level because most centers are not signed for a reasonable cost. But that does not make him a top player but it makes him a valueable asset so to say.
Wow...you almost complimented him. I bet that hurt.
That he is a valueable piece either for building a team or trading him for other valueable pieces.
It is not like Gortat is such a stud that he is untradeable. If someone offered Derrick Williams or the #1 pick for Gortat you trade him, simple.
Nobody is untradeable. There are very few GM's that would give up a legit Big man that has stats that rival other top centers in the league for a PG.
Your wrong.
Shooting Guard and Center but Gortat is not Dwight Howard. Gortat is one of many centers that are roughly on the same level, he is an average starter and a #1 pick is worth more than that and if a team was willing to do that right now you trade him definitely.
A franchise player or even just a multiple allstar is harder to find than an average starting center.
Besides the fact that it would be worth much more for a team that needs to rebuild to have a young player than you can build around instead of having a 27 yeard old player who could be a nice piece but not someone you build a team around.
You obviously don't know what your talking about. You keep devaluing Gortat but obviously have not look at his stats compared to other centers. Especially factoring in that he has only had 1/2 season as a starter. If he was "average" why did he climb the stat charts so quickly (like total double doubles) and pass centers that have been starting all season long? If he's average how did he legitmize the Suns in the paint so quickly. Pre-Gortat Suns were top 5 worst scoring in the paint....now #13. Pre-Gortat we were one of the worst in effiency....now were not. Pre-Gortat worst in rebounding....now #23 which is obvious improvement. I could go on and on to disprove how "average" he is.
Also, the other part of your argument that makes zero since is that because Gortat is 27 he can't improve. That how do you explain his steady improvement all season?
It's been proven time and time again that some guys don't develop until they get significant playing time. Gortat has improved all season long. Does he all of the sudden stop improving because you say so?
Uhhh...No.
You have this fantasy that Gortat should be traded for some unproven young guy...cause he's young. You can't build around a young guy unless he is proven. So you keep saying trade him for a pick or unproven young guy. If that doesn't work out? You just traded one of the best centers for garbage. Wow...good idea.
Well thats an overstatement 
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