2011 NBA Playoffs Thread

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The Lakers lost one, and the Mavs won one.

Letting game 1 get away from them was disaster.

Lakers just put themselves in their favorite position, so you'll get their best effort. I think they might have gone to the well one too many times with that one, though.
 

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seriously, in watching basketball for 20 years, there's only two teams who could possibly blow this series at this point... the 94-95 Phoenix Suns and the 2006-201? Dallas Mavericks. We'll see if Dallas can finally get over being choke city. I'm PRAYING they do.
 
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blessing in disguise for LA if Ron gets suspended for that clothesline?
 

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seriously, in watching basketball for 20 years, there's only two teams who could possibly blow this series at this point... the 94-95 Phoenix Suns and the 2006-2010 Dallas Mavericks. We'll see if Dallas can finally get over being choke city. I'm PRAYING they do.

HAHA! :D
 

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call me crazy, but I think whoever wins Game 3, wins the LA v. Dallas series.
 

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It's become obvious that you can't get away with shoddy point guard play in the NBA anymore and expect to win. The Fisher/Blake combo might be the worst point guard rotation in the NBA and we're talking about a league where last year's rookie of the year is a PG who is probably among the bottom half of starters at that position.
 

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It's become obvious that you can't get away with shoddy point guard play in the NBA anymore and expect to win. The Fisher/Blake combo might be the worst point guard rotation in the NBA and we're talking about a league where last year's rookie of the year is a PG who is probably among the bottom half of starters at that position.

Blake was so bad in this game it even sickened me. (not really I loved every second of it) The tide was turned in the 4th when Blake fell apart and Barrea caught fire. Fisher was a total non factor. The lakers need a PG that can play, I think the days of Fisher being useful offensively for about 2 mins a game and that being enough, are long gone.
 

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New angle replay on the Artest clothesline shows him grab his junk when the ref tosses him out. Classy.
 

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As bad as it looked tonight, and it looked bad, it was amplified by the very unusual performance from 3-point range. 0-15? Really? Hit even a third of those and the game is at least tied.

******* move by Artest at the end. I wish we had never let Ariza go. Ariza >>>> Artest.
 

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quick turnaround on Friday does this gassed Lakers squad no favors.
 

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Game 1 was the first time the Mavs EVER beat the Lakers in LA in a playoff game. They're now 1-10 in LA in the playoffs.

I have been making some "ownership" jokes - but the facts pan out - the Lakers do OWN the Mavs.[/B]

Oh, really? :lol:

You might want to stick to the present. But, whatever helps you sleep at night.
 

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New angle replay on the Artest clothesline shows him grab his junk when the ref tosses him out. Classy.

At least somebody benefited from the Suns lesson after the Horry hip check. The Mavs were ready for Artest to pull a Horry. Artest will be sitting out the next game. (But that might be a benefit to the Lakers.)
 

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Game 1 was the first time the Mavs EVER beat the Lakers in LA in a playoff game. They're now 1-10 in LA in the playoffs.

I have been making some "ownership" jokes - but the facts pan out - the Lakers do OWN the Mavs.

The Lakers and the Mavericks have played 147 total games between the regular season and the playoffs with 109 victories for the Lakers and 38 for the Mavericks.

109-38 !!!
all of that doesn't mean anything now. every season is a new one. I've been saying it all year long and you can disagree all you want. but i've watched the mavericks religously in my lifetime. this is unlike any mavs team i've ever seen. again...that doesn't mean they will win a title. there are a lot of good teams in the league that can beat dallas. but this is not the same mavs from recent seasons. they are tough and they play defense better than they ever have. I cannot believe that they have not given up 100 points in a game yet in the playoffs. the mavs from recent playoff years often gave up 100 pts a night. this series isnt' over. the lakers can win on the road.
 
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You're right.

109-39 now overall.

And Dallas is now 2-10 in playoff games in L.A.
that's a great record. congrats to the lakers...they are a great franchise going way back.

I know this is the first time the mark cuban mavs have played the lakers in the playoffs. obviously the thoughts were that the lakers could control nowitzki with their front line. not really working out so far.

I heard after game 1(why wasn't odom guarding dirk down the stretch) then I watched the highlights and saw that most of dirks points in the game were scored on odom. I think phil was trying something different because odom was not working. I did not watch game 2.
 

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At least somebody benefited from the Suns lesson after the Horry hip check. The Mavs were ready for Artest to pull a Horry. Artest will be sitting out the next game. (But that might be a benefit to the Lakers.)
maybe it does, but in the regular season(at least the last 2 losses) artest killed dallas. Dallas was leaving kidd on artest(or leaving him wide open) to double other lakers and he was destroying dallas scoring and on the glass. in this playoff series he has been a no show, but the mavs have put more emphasis on guarding him. I don't see how having one of your best players(who is a starter) suspended helps you. if anything it puts more heat on the other big guys who are already struggling. again...look back at how well odom is doing trying to guard dirk. he's not...the guy cannot guard dirk. the thought in LA has been that odom and or gasol can hold this guy down. no one can check dirk. dirk and kobe are in their own world. you just have to hope they miss shots and settle for jumpers when their game is off track.
 

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The Lakers lost one, and the Mavs won one.

Letting game 1 get away from them was disaster.

Lakers just put themselves in their favorite position, so you'll get their best effort. I think they might have gone to the well one too many times with that one, though.
lakers lost 2...mavs won 2. let's not take away from the brilliant performance collectively as a team in game 1 by dallas. the lakers are champions. champions don't give away games like that. they fought hard and kobe made some big shots. dirk answered and proved his worth as a closer...something some fans around the league have failed to recognize over the last few years.
 

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Is this really happening? I don't think even Dallas can choke a 2-0 lead if they win tonight.

OKC vs Bulls!
I don't think dallas would lose to OKC. they have faired well against them(even beating them in a game without nowitzki for 3qtrs in their building), but I'm not sure how they match up with perkins and playoffs are different.

first thing is first. both dallas and OKC have their hands full. so far OKC is having more trouble with memphis. If dallas can pull off the upset I think they would rather play OKC than memphis. Memphis has been a thorn in dallas' side for a few years now(since gasol left).
 

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seriously, in watching basketball for 20 years, there's only two teams who could possibly blow this series at this point... the 94-95 Phoenix Suns and the 2006-201? Dallas Mavericks. We'll see if Dallas can finally get over being choke city. I'm PRAYING they do.
well this is a different dallas team. they have dealt with that label all year long and so far they have answered the bell every time. I think game 3 is the most important game yet. if dallas wins that game this series is likely over. Dallas has one of the best closers in the game in dirk. they gotta feed him the ball down the stretch in games if it is close.
 
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I think what it comes dowm to is Kobe is an old 32. This is his 14th and the heart is still there, but I think this is the start of the decline for him. MJ played 15 seasons and took breaks twice and still was half the player in his last two with Washington.
 

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I think what it comes dowm to is Kobe is an old 32. This is his 14th and the heart is still there, but I think this is the start of the decline for him. MJ played 15 seasons and took breaks twice and still was half the player in his last two with Washington.

While I'd agree in theory that Kobe is on the start of the decline, I don't think that has any impact on this series. If you watched the game last night Kobe wasn't the problem (other than twice on bad switches) and was active defensively with 3 or 4 steals. The issue in this series is a whole lot of Pau not being remotely there on either end of the court, Artest's shots looking like garbage, an ineffective bench, a lack of defensive communication, absolutely NOTHING from the PG spot from Fish or Blake, and lack of hustle and willingness to get on the ground after loose balls.

Bynum, Kobe and Lamar are bringing it. I can't name another player on the roster making a remotely positive impact. I wish this was a "Kobe problem" right now, because he is pretty fluid and flexible and adjusts accordingly. It isn't. It's a team problem, and they have gone through it several times this season, then they right the ship. They don't have the luxury of time to right the ship right now, so either they pull it all together or I will have a relatively stress free summer (which I don't like).

It would also help if Pau put down his makeup bag and started to play some basketball. He's not being aggressive, and is not making quick decisions. He's pounding the ball, and kicking it out with no time on the shot clock. He had a few aggressive plays, such as getting great position low and going right to work, then for the next few plays he's completely disengaged.

One sequence I thought was terribly funny in a masochistic way was the announcers were praising some good ball movement and as they are saying that, the ball went in to Pau who just stopped the flow, pounded the ball, and did absolutely nothing with it passing it back out after 4 seconds or so. Now, nobody moved around him either to get a pass, but he could have realized that a hell of a lot faster and kept moving the ball. Or shot it. Or something. Kobe stagnates the offense, true, but you can't have both Kobe and Pau chewing up 3/4 of the shot clock.

Either the Lakers do something special here, or they have epic failure in Phil's last year in LA. I'm kind of Pau-ish right now (disinterested) because I don't see them winning the title this year (and haven't for awhile) so they might as well be bounced early and save me some nerve endings.
 

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It would also help if Pau put down his makeup bag and started to play some basketball. He's not being aggressive, and is not making quick decisions. He's pounding the ball, and kicking it out with no time on the shot clock. He had a few aggressive plays, such as getting great position low and going right to work, then for the next few plays he's completely disengaged.
Why do you hate men who wear make-up, Mr. Jelly Bean?
 

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Why do you hate men who wear make-up, Mr. Jelly Bean?

They can wear it all they want. I just don't want him dabbing it on while he's supposed to winning playoff games, or driving in rush hour traffic.



BTW, my post wasn't homophobic, it was misogynistic.
 
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