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Listened to a piece yesterday afternoon with Gambo. He said NBA scouts watching practices say Wiggins isn't the best player on the floor right now on his own college team. NBA scouts say they are just not seeing all the hype with Wiggins. He is tremendously athletic but there are serious deficiencies in other parts of his game. They say he is not a consensus #1 pick at the moment.

I am not saying I agree with this, I am just reporting what Gambo's "sources" are feeding him. BTW, Gambo says he likes Randle more than Wiggins.

It is going to be an interesting year to watch college bball. I wonder if Wiggins could take a fall like Shabazz did.

Wiggins is on another level athleticism than Shabazz so I think he'll end up fine. But you're right, the wildcard is that alot of these guys have been so much more physically dominant their whole lives and then when they run into guys their own size (both on their own teams and the competition) they realize they actually don't fundamentally know how to play organized basketball. College ball this season should definitely be interesting
 

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Listened to a piece yesterday afternoon with Gambo. He said NBA scouts watching practices say Wiggins isn't the best player on the floor right now on his own college team. NBA scouts say they are just not seeing all the hype with Wiggins. He is tremendously athletic but there are serious deficiencies in other parts of his game. They say he is not a consensus #1 pick at the moment.

I am not saying I agree with this, I am just reporting what Gambo's "sources" are feeding him. BTW, Gambo says he likes Randle more than Wiggins.

It is going to be an interesting year to watch college bball. I wonder if Wiggins could take a fall like Shabazz did.

Kansas is pretty loaded with talent but that doesn't mean he's not the best prospect on that roster still. Selden is a terrific talent but not sure he's big enough or shoots it well enough for the NBA, bit of a tweener maybe. Embiid will be an early lottery pick when he goes out.

Wiggins is so much more athletic than Bazz it's not funny, he has to get stronger and learn of course but completely different situation than Bazz.

As for Randle, Wiggins ate him up when they played head to head in HS, Wiggins insisted on guarding him and then shut him down. Randle is talented but he's another one of those bigs who wants to be a guard.

It's early but I still will be surprised if Wiggins doesn't end up the first pick he's simply that good. He and Gordon are similar in that everyone talks about all the dunks and the leaping ability, but he's a better shooter than Gordon is.
 

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Watching KU bball is a must this year:

All I've watched is highlights of Seldon. Of course, with those you see athleticism, skills, and range, but you cannot see things like scoring efficiency and consistency. Some thoughts about Seldon:

Big, strong, athletic 2 guard body. His body reminds me of Mitch Richmond. He is also a high flyer. Maybe some can jump higher, but his strength will get him to the rim when others cannot. Excellent hands and a great passer. He has a knack and flair with the ball. VERY intriguing prospect.

Embiid just looks huge and effortless. I do not know what that kids wingspan is, but it has to be massive. If he has truly only been playing bball since 2011, he is a very gifted natural athlete--one of those who not only has an athletic body, but has the ability to make his body do exactly what is necessary to play well. Reminds me of Hakeem.

I might consider Seldon over Parker. Right now, as I look at prospects I would rank them

1. Wiggins
2. Randle
3. Seldon
4. Parker
5. Embiid


Sporting News on Seldon

Wayne Selden does not relent. I'll say this as directly as possible: Selden is the hardest-practicing freshman I've encountered in more than a quarter-century on the college basketball beat. Does anyone remember Iowa's Jess Settles? He's always been my standard for a high-energy player, and Selden clears that bar.

There are players with greater raw talent or a more natural basketball frame. (The 6-5, 230-pound Selden has wide shoulders and a thick chest; neither will hinder him, but they're not prototypical for an elite prospect). Selden makes few mistakes, seems only to take jump shots he is convinced will connect and just does not stop.

Selden is going to win a lot of basketball games for Kansas just with his energy and his precision. He'll win some more with his strength and athleticism, which coaches expect will help him to become an exceptional defender. He'll win one here or there with his shooting.

Wiggins's athleticism will permit him to do some things college opponents can't prevent. But those same young men simply won't want to get in Selden's way.


And on Embiid

Well, say hello to Joel Embiid, a 7-0 native of Cameroon who played high school ball in Florida. He owns physical gifts that call to mind Hakeem Olajuwon and basketball skills reminiscent of Tim Duncan. Embiid has great feet, jumps well, handles the ball like a skilled forward and fires perimeter jumpers with comfort and ease. When he learns how to apply all this, when he comes to terms with how truly talented he is--in the way Olajuwon did after a year with the Houston Cougars--Embiid will be a basketball monster.
 
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I am not a fan of Parker at all, he lacks the elite athleticism to become a true superstar.

I see him more like a Lamar Odom/Boris Diaw forward.
 

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Watching KU bball is a must this year:

All I've watched is highlights of Seldon. Of course, with those you see athleticism, skills, and range, but you cannot see things like scoring efficiency and consistency. Some thoughts about Seldon:

Big, strong, athletic 2 guard body. His body reminds me of Mitch Richmond. He is also a high flyer. Maybe some can jump higher, but his strength will get him to the rim when others cannot. Excellent hands and a great passer. He has a knack and flair with the ball. VERY intriguing prospect.

Embiid just looks huge and effortless. I do not know what that kids wingspan is, but it has to be massive. If he has truly only been playing bball since 2011, he is a very gifted natural athlete--one of those who not only has an athletic body, but has the ability to make his body do exactly what is necessary to play well. Reminds me of Hakeem.

I might consider Seldon over Parker. Right now, as I look at prospects I would rank them

1. Wiggins
2. Randle
3. Seldon
4. Parker
5. Embiid


Sporting News on Seldon

Wayne Selden does not relent. I'll say this as directly as possible: Selden is the hardest-practicing freshman I've encountered in more than a quarter-century on the college basketball beat. Does anyone remember Iowa's Jess Settles? He's always been my standard for a high-energy player, and Selden clears that bar.

There are players with greater raw talent or a more natural basketball frame. (The 6-5, 230-pound Selden has wide shoulders and a thick chest; neither will hinder him, but they're not prototypical for an elite prospect). Selden makes few mistakes, seems only to take jump shots he is convinced will connect and just does not stop.

Selden is going to win a lot of basketball games for Kansas just with his energy and his precision. He'll win some more with his strength and athleticism, which coaches expect will help him to become an exceptional defender. He'll win one here or there with his shooting.

Wiggins's athleticism will permit him to do some things college opponents can't prevent. But those same young men simply won't want to get in Selden's way.


And on Embiid

Well, say hello to Joel Embiid, a 7-0 native of Cameroon who played high school ball in Florida. He owns physical gifts that call to mind Hakeem Olajuwon and basketball skills reminiscent of Tim Duncan. Embiid has great feet, jumps well, handles the ball like a skilled forward and fires perimeter jumpers with comfort and ease. When he learns how to apply all this, when he comes to terms with how truly talented he is--in the way Olajuwon did after a year with the Houston Cougars--Embiid will be a basketball monster.


I think KU has a better class than Kentucky does. I think Wiggins is the best prospect, I think Selden is possibly the most college ready freshman in America, and I think Embiid is a top 5 prospect. Add in Brannen Greene and some others I think the class is amazing.

UCLA recruited Selden, then he reclassified he was originally in the next class. KU was leading for a guard named Allerik Freeman but after Selden reclassed, they dropped Freeman. UCLA wound up getting a verbal from Freeman and after the coaching change he dropped and wound up at Baylor. I've seen some footage of Freeman and Selden playing, I think it was Adidas Nations but don't quote me, it wasn't even close, Selden just dominated the kid and Freeman was a pretty physically strong HS player but he just couldn't touch Selden.

Right now I won't be surprised at all if Kansas wins the NC, they might start a little slow because they're so young, but that roster is so talented and Self is a much better coach than Calipari IMO.
 

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I am not a fan of Parker at all, he lacks the elite athleticism to become a true superstar.

I see him more like a Lamar Odom/Boris Diaw forward.

The only thing that kept either of those two from being first ballot HOFers was upstairs. If Parker has their potential I'd grab him in a heartbeat. Unless, of course, he lacks the killer instinct and work ethic necessary to excel as Odom and Diaw both do. I've seen very little of Parker but wasn't all that impressed. I'll have to watch him in game action to see what all the fuss has been about.

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I think KU has a better class than Kentucky does. I think Wiggins is the best prospect, I think Selden is possibly the most college ready freshman in America, and I think Embiid is a top 5 prospect.

That Kansas team if they live up to their potential seems a shoo in for the national championship. Embiid could definitely end up being the in the top 3 even being that he is a big man with freakish athleticism
 

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Actually, with the way we are playing Wiggins, Parker, Randle are likely going to be drafted before we pick. A couple of other guys on the Kentucky team that are worth watching are James Young, the Harrison brothers, Cauley-Stein, and Poythress
 

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Julius Randle looks a bit overrated - the first game of his he dominated against weaker competition. He could be a Kevin Love like rebounder but I think Love is overrated (though pretty good) but Randle isn't as athletic or tall as I expected. He'll be a beast in College and I won't judge his offense based off this game and 10-15 minutes of Kentucky's 1st game... But the highlights coming into Season had me worried a little bit that's he undersized and just stronger than most College players. He's talented, but I'm not disappointed the Suns are off to great start.

Jabari Parker isn't as athletic as I'd like either.
 

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Randle is playing absolutely horrible in this Kentucky game. He has been a turnover machine, looks really bad on defense too, constantly out of position. One half of basketball is obviously no way to judge talent, but I sure dont like his demeanor.

Also trying to keep an eye on the Harrison brothers - obviously we will end up with one of them.
 

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Randle is playing absolutely horrible in this Kentucky game. He has been a turnover machine, looks really bad on defense too, constantly out of position. One half of basketball is obviously no way to judge talent, but I sure dont like his demeanor.

Also trying to keep an eye on the Harrison brothers - obviously we will end up with one of them.

Lol. Dick, Tom, Markieff and Marcus beg to differ. We could well end up with both of them although I'm pretty sure we add a Plumlee before that.

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Lol. Dick, Tom, Markieff and Marcus beg to differ. We could well end up with both of them although I'm pretty sure we add a Plumlee before that.

Steve

Good point, should have said "at least" one of them.

I like the way you're thinking. Get both Harrison's, another Plumlee, call up Goran's brother, Harpo Dragic, I will have to check with my sources but I believe Eric Bledsoe and Drew Bledsoe are brothers from another mother. Dude was like 6'5", I bet he can ball.
 

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Good point, should have said "at least" one of them.

I like the way you're thinking. Get both Harrison's, another Plumlee, call up Goran's brother, Harpo Dragic, I will have to check with my sources but I believe Eric Bledsoe and Drew Bledsoe are brothers from another mother. Dude was like 6'5", I bet he can ball.

I'm sure Mainstreet would appreciate it if we could bring back our Zeller and add on from there. I think I'll pass on Drew though but Zeppo Dragic would be a nice addition.

Steve
 

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Jabari Parker is my favorite freshmen this year.
 

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anyone doubting Parker is drinking drano. That kid can BALL.

Man...as much as I'm enjoying this Suns team and their surprising start, they've got to start losing games NOW, because there is just DISGUSTING talent coming out this year in the draft.
 

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Wiggins needs to add a lot of weigh. He reminds me of Noel...an athletic freak who has a high ceiling but is way too damn skinny.
 

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Wiggins needs to add a lot of weigh. He reminds me of Noel...an athletic freak who has a high ceiling but is way too damn skinny.

he looks super raw out there. but yes, an athletic freak.
 

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anyone doubting Parker is drinking drano. That kid can BALL.

Man...as much as I'm enjoying this Suns team and their surprising start, they've got to start losing games NOW, because there is just DISGUSTING talent coming out this year in the draft.

I was one of the guys that was unimpressed by Parker. But he looked like a completely different player out there tonight. This kid is special. I guess it just took him longer to return to form from his injury than most of us realized.

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Who is the commentator for this game? His voice is so....I don't even know the word to describe it. Seems like he's in pain or has a sore throat.
 
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