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There has to be a market for Frye for him to opt out unless he wants to accept more years for less money.
Right now I don't see him opting out.
Right now I don't see him opting out.
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He will probably get something like 4yrs/24M$ from a contender if he opts out.
I can't see how he would not opt out of a 1yr/6.8M$ contract. It is not like his current contract is vastly overpaying him. He is likely to sign only 1 more multi year contract in his career, if he does not do it now what if his heart condition becomes an issue again? He is done and won't get a multi year contract again.
99.99% chance that Frye opts out. He would be a good fit for Miami, San Antonio, Houston and pretty much every other contender. I think he could pick his team. But we should not resign him because we would have roughly 28M$ (this already accounts for the capholds for Tucker and Bledsoe) caproom if he opts out, we would be better off signing 2-3 very good young players with that money or 2 "star" players.
I can't see how he would not opt out of a 1yr/6.8M$ contract. It is not like his current contract is vastly overpaying him. He is likely to sign only 1 more multi year contract in his career, if he does not do it now what if his heart condition becomes an issue again? He is done and won't get a multi year contract again.
99.99% chance that Frye opts out. He would be a good fit for Miami, San Antonio, Houston and pretty much every other contender. I think he could pick his team. But we should not resign him because we would have roughly 28M$ (this already accounts for the capholds for Tucker and Bledsoe) caproom if he opts out, we would be better off signing 2-3 very good young players with that money or 2 "star" players.
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I'll take those odds. My $50 against your $500,000? Let me know how to set it up.
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true, but with his medical condition (and pretty supbar play the second half of the season) is he really going to make that much money on his next contract? Walking away from 6 million seems like a pretty big risk for him.
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Hi, Hoover. By the time I caught up on these posts, I didn't have to "moan". I see that others have already done it.
I do, however, find a real flaw in your reasoning. You are talking about what is best for Melo. I am more concerned with what is best for the Suns.
Anthony would be another Barkley. Put on an offensive show. Grab the headlines. But, as an undersized PF, not turn us into a Championship contender, any more than he has on the Knicks.
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I'll believe that when I see it.
Do you think NBA teams won't have the same worry? And paying that amount for a bench big? I don't see it.
I think the above is wishful thinking that he'll opt out so we'll have more money. I'll be surprised.
Oh agreed, I'd love the Suns to get the next HoF big guy. I certainly think its probably easier to win with a Shaq/Hakeem/Kareem/Wilt/Russell just because they're so rare and the other teams can't match up with them.
But it drives me nuts when fans act as if there's some one way to build a team that can win the title. There are many ways to skin that cat.
Yah wouldn't that be awful.
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I think we agree. However, the Suns will need added strength and rebounding on their front line to get the job done. They need not be stars.
Also if Frye wants something like 4yrs/24M$ contract, please Suns, let him walk.
BC867
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Exactly! Rebounding and outlet passes. A presence in the middle on defense. Opportunity baskets and put-backs. Any two of Plumlee/Len/Frye/Markeiff playing together with three other Suns haven't given us that.
Even if he wants $1.12, let him walk. His presence stops us from being stronger at the two power positions. We lose Frye, we open the possibility of addition by subtraction. As long as he remains, he is blocking our starting Power Forward and backup Center positions.
Where is the history that backs that up? Show me where teams that consistently play small ball lineups out of position have won titles?
In terms of average size, you can't just look at the position in it's entirety. You need to look at the average size of PF in the NBA that are actually good at what they do. Compare at the entire level and you dilute your average. You also have to consider weight.
What does it look like then?
I can crutch some numbers but I bet he is small compared to the elite that get it done at that position. Also, he is listed at 6'8" but he is probably 6'6". I don't care how you slice it that is small for the PF position. Like I said though I can do some more analysis when I get some time.
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I think there is absolutely no chance that the Suns will give Frye another contract, at any price.
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I agree. However, the Suns FO talk about him being valuable like they did with Steve Nash before they traded him. IMO, if the Suns can do a trade, he will be used as filler. I don't think the Suns would chase him if he opts out, which IMO, is very unlikely.
I'm not sure what Portland's salary situation is, but Frye seems like he'd be a great fit there. I know he still keeps his home there from the 1st time he played there. He could spell LaMarcus pretty well and keep the floor spread when LA sits down.
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Heck, how hard is that? Capital L, A, capital M, A, R, C, U, S. I'd hope a lot of guys were up to that.
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Trade him for Thomas Robinson? Just a passing thought.
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well Frye did go to UofA
Touché!
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I'm not as high on Robinson as I was... he got fewer minutes with Portland than he did Houston last year. Still his rebounding was 12.6/36 - almost double the rate of Frye - if I was sure he could maintain that with more mpg i'd be more inclined to pursue him. I thought he was a better defender than his rim protection stats indicate. mot many blocks either and his TO's run on the high side as do his fouls. In short he looks like a decent backup at this stage and Markieff is somewhat better for that role.
I doubt Portland would be very excited about Frye as they already lead the league in 3's made and 3's attempted - though it doesn't look like it against the Spurs right now.
Robin Lopez had a stellar year for Portland... way about average offensive efficiency and his rim protection was the best in the league. He's till not a great rebounder but he's not far below average for C's and, of course, he's not a prolific scorer.
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Funny you said that. My brother and I were just talking about that and we both agreed that Frye seems like a Portland guy.
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What a shock... that show completely ripped off a joke from the Simpsons, and made it less funny in the process. They didnt even bother to change the name of the state.
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man...did they ever.
"Heaven must be easier to get into then Arizona State" line is one of the funniest, most random blasts I can ever remember on TV. And Flanders' delivery of it was priceless. that Family Guy joke...just weak. even the cadence/timing of it was off...and then they had to go one step further to explain the joke. that's how you know the joke doesn't work.
