2014 NBA Finals Spurs/Heat

[desertdawg]

I think the Miami coach might be toast after all this, if they beat the holy guacomoly out of them in Texas, than some can say that the teams were pretty close on talent. Some could say the Heat have a "more talented" roster. Pops saw a tired team, and hasn't taken his foot off their throat since. Master of a coach.

 

[SO91]

I think the Miami coach might be toast after all this, if they beat the holy guacomoly out of them in Texas, than some can say that the teams were pretty close on talent. Some could say the Heat have a "more talented" roster. Pops saw a tired team, and hasn't taken his foot off their throat since. Master of a coach.

No way. 2 championships, 4 straight finals. I agree on Pop being a damn good coach.

 

[desertdawg]

No way. 2 championships, 4 straight finals. I agree on Pop being a damn good coach.

True that, but if they get seriously worked 'epic" style for the third time in a row, in San Antonio, there will be some talk IMO.

 

[82CardsGrad]

No way. 2 championships, 4 straight finals. I agree on Pop being a damn good coach.

Pop will go down as one the all time greats. He will be listed at the very top of the historical listing of NBA coaches.
And the Spurs will go down as one of the all time great dynasties... Just incredible...


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[82CardsGrad]

Duncan - most double doubles in NBA post season history... What a career!


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[MaoTosiFanClub]

It's pretty unreal how the Spurs get open shots every time down the court. I guess that makes basketball pretty easy. You really don't see this level of unselfishness in any pro sport these days.

As far as Boris and '07 Game 5 goes, I still feel like Dumbtoni would have found a way to botch the series to Pop. Man those SSOL teams were so loaded. Suspension or not we should have had a ring just like Jordan baseball years were it not for horrendous coaching.

 

[TJ]

It's pretty unreal how the Spurs get open shots every time down the court. I guess that makes basketball pretty easy. You really don't see this level of unselfishness in any pro sport these days.

As far as Boris and '07 Game 5 goes, I still feel like Dumbtoni would have found a way to botch the series to Pop. Man those SSOL teams were so loaded. Suspension or not we should have had a ring just like Jordan baseball years were it not for horrendous coaching.

Had *'Antoni expanded his rotation throughout the season, we would've had more fresh bodies and perhaps won Game 5 despite STAT and Diaw suspended. We were ahead by double digits at one point, IIRC.

 

[TJ]

I think Coach Pop took last season's exit personally and game planned the **** out of this series. Spoelstra can't sniff his jock. I've never felt he was an elite coach, but rather the benefactor of having Lebron and co. on the roster.

Imagine Coach Pop with Lebron on his team. Wowsers

 

[elindholm]

perhaps won Game 5 despite STAT and Diaw suspended. We were ahead by double digits at one point, IIRC.

Most of the game, actually. In fact I think the lead was close to 20 late in the first half. It was a typical Suns-Spurs game with the Suns falling apart down the stretch and the Spurs being able to execute on both ends of the floor. In this particular game, the Suns had the excuse of being under-manned, but it followed the same pattern as so many other Suns-Spurs games of that era.

 

[JustWinBaby]

It's pretty unreal how the Spurs get open shots every time down the court. I guess that makes basketball pretty easy. You really don't see this level of unselfishness in any pro sport these days.

As far as Boris and '07 Game 5 goes, I still feel like Dumbtoni would have found a way to botch the series to Pop. Man those SSOL teams were so loaded. Suspension or not we should have had a ring just like Jordan baseball years were it not for horrendous coaching.

Why does there always have to be an idiotic criticism of the D'Antoni era. It had some of the best moments in Suns history. Quite possibly without Mike as coach we probably would not have had a chance to lose to the Spurs. It is amazing how he was criticized for playing small ball in the day and that is the name of the game in todays NBA. When his teams shot a lot of 3 pointers it was bad coaching. Today if you cannot shoot 3 pointers you cannot win a championship. Ask Popovich or Spolestra. When Diaw passed the ball more than we thought he should have most wanted him to leave town or wanted MDA fired. Boris will get a lot of votes for the finals MVP if the Spurs win. He knows how to play. Ask Popovich and Mike D'Antoni. Kerr is the moron that brook up the group that competed for a title every year and was fun to watch. But he is a fan favorite, for some unknown reason, so he gets no blame.

We got beat by a better team with better talent and a better coach in the day. Popovich and the Spurs have beat a lot of teams. They have had consistent talent up and down that roster. Mike had limited resources at his disposal. I know most don't believe that statement, but it is a fact. If you don't believe that to be the case. List the players, Mike did not play, that made an impact anywhere else after they left the Suns.

How does that make MDA a horrendous coach? He certainly should not be considered a great coach but to call him a horrendous coach is ludicrous.

The last team I remember that got as many open looks as this Spurs team and was as much fun to watch was the Suns teams coached by MDA.

 

[slinslin]

Wade and Bosh are frauds, what are they doing to earn their paycheck? They are riding Lebron James coattails.

Hopefully Lebron leaves Miami.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Wade and Bosh are frauds, what are they doing to earn their paycheck? They are riding Lebron James coattails.

Hopefully Lebron leaves Miami.

I can understand Wade, injuries have taken their toll. I don't know what's happened to Bosh though.

Steve

 

[Cheesebeef]

I can understand Wade, injuries have taken their toll. I don't know what's happened to Bosh though.

Steve

Bosh was a solid player who was a stat padder on a bad team that didn't make much impact win-loss wise. Like another guy everyone here is clamoring to get.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Had *'Antoni expanded his rotation throughout the season, we would've had more fresh bodies and perhaps won Game 5 despite STAT and Diaw suspended. We were ahead by double digits at one point, IIRC.

we were up 16 at one point...and I think 11 early in the fourth. they just ran out of gas...and Nash couldn't hit the broad side of a barn in that game.

 

[Cheesebeef]

We got beat by a better team with better talent and a better coach in the day. Popovich and the Spurs have beat a lot of teams. They have had consistent talent up and down that roster.

This is just not true. They have consistently taken guys who were almost OUT OF THE LEAGUE and found their strengths and keyed on them. That's what a great coach does. Patty Mills? ever heard of him before this year? no. Green was out of the league when Pop brought him in. Pop also brought in and drafted Leonard/Splitter. Pop also took Diaw off the scrap heap. They've had a big 3 forever, but he has consistently taken other people's chicken-ish and turned them into chicken-salad.

Mike had limited resources at his disposal. I know most don't believe that statement, but it is a fact.

it's not a fact. the reality is Mike LIMITED his own resources by not wanting to develop people through the draft (the way the Spurs have for years WHILE contending every year) and by blowing money on GARBAGE like Marcus Banks.

If you don't believe that to be the case. List the players, Mike did not play, that made an impact anywhere else after they left the Suns.

Besides all the guys he could have drafted to build that bench and refused to do because he wasn't "in the business of developing players", there's only one player who matters who he pretty much refused to play and continued to have an impact elsewhere...Kurt Thomas. You know, the guy the Spurs picked up the next season who helped them get to the WCF and then like a bajillion years later, was the starting C for the Bulls when they went to the ECF.

 

[slinslin]

If Lebron is smart he cuts loose Wade. Dude is washed up and dragging him down.
He doesn't get to the rim consistently anymore and can't space the floor for Lebron to operate.

The Heat would be better of if they had Gerald Green instead of Wade right now.

 

[Suns_fan69]

So here's a question. Who wins Finals MVP if (when?) the Spurs win? Leonard? Duncan? Parker? Diaw? Danny Green?

Seriously, they're all in the conversation at this point.

 

[SirStefan32]

So here's a question. Who wins Finals MVP if (when?) the Spurs win? Leonard? Duncan? Parker? Diaw? Danny Green?

Seriously, they're all in the conversation at this point.

Popovich.

 

[82CardsGrad]

So here's a question. Who wins Finals MVP if (when?) the Spurs win? Leonard? Duncan? Parker? Diaw? Danny Green?

Seriously, they're all in the conversation at this point.

Gotta be Leonard... It's a tough one, but Leonard has been the most consistent of all...


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[TJ]

we were up 16 at one point...and I think 11 early in the fourth. they just ran out of gas...and Nash couldn't hit the broad side of a barn in that game.

Don't blame him. They were all winded by the 4th quarter.

 

[elindholm]

So here's a question. Who wins Finals MVP if (when?) the Spurs win? Leonard? Duncan? Parker? Diaw? Danny Green?

Seriously, they're all in the conversation at this point.

It's Leonard so far, but it will probably end up being Parker.

 

[Russ Smith]

Yeah, my wife and I live in the Los Angeles area, and if she's not on time for a job, she doesn't get hired back. So I'm not buying that. Sure, it might take four hours to go 10 miles, but if that's the way it is and you want to be there on time, budget five hours.

It's sort of like snow in Minneapolis. You have to plug it into every estimate you make about how long something is going to take. You'll notice that people in the twin cities never use snow as an excuse. Those in Los Angeles should take the same attitude toward traffic.

Having said that, I never drive into the city (from 35 miles east) if I can possibly help it, because even if you luck out and make decent time coming in, it's nearly impossible to get out. Going to a two-hour concert is easily a nine- or ten-hour time commitment. It's just not worth it. I can literally drive to Phoenix and back in as much time as a round trip to Santa Monica.

That's my point though, it's different taking 4 hours to get to a job and taking 4 hours to get to a game.

UCLA had that problem this year with construction one of the adjacent freeways, think it was the 405. People were hammering on them for televised games where Pauley was sparsely attended but they kept picking start times that were just impossible. The only way for fans to get there with all the construction was to leave hours early and not everyone CAN just leave hours early if you're working.

The perception that everyone at a Lakers game is a millionaire is not reality, many of them actually do have to work for a living and can't simply take a half day to make sure they get to a Lakers game on time.

Im sure the Lakers being down contributed to it right now but it's a reality in LA. You can't go anywhere in LA without traffic being a major issue so many people just don't go.

 

[Russ Smith]

I can understand Wade, injuries have taken their toll. I don't know what's happened to Bosh though.

Steve

Bosh just seems to have aged really quickly IMO. He was a very athletic guy when younger, now he's a spot up shooter. He was never a very good postup guy but he made up for it with athleticism, now he's not athletic.

Wade is just beaten down, age and injuries have taken their toll on him.

Wade is 32, Bosh is just 30 but he seems much older.

 

[Cheesebeef]

That's my point though, it's different taking 4 hours to get to a job and taking 4 hours to get to a game.

UCLA had that problem this year with construction one of the adjacent freeways, think it was the 405. People were hammering on them for televised games where Pauley was sparsely attended but they kept picking start times that were just impossible. The only way for fans to get there with all the construction was to leave hours early and not everyone CAN just leave hours early if you're working.

The perception that everyone at a Lakers game is a millionaire is not reality, many of them actually do have to work for a living and can't simply take a half day to make sure they get to a Lakers game on time.

seriously...that's where I thought Eric post was laughably out of touch. On the one hand, he comments on his wife getting fired if she's thirty minutes late, but he's saying that Laker season ticket holders should take half days 42 TIMES A YEAR so they can get to Laker games on time? That's pretty incomprehensible from any logical standpoint..

 

[BC867]

How does that make MDA a horrendous coach? He certainly should not be considered a great coach but to call him a horrendous coach is ludicrous.

As has been cited over and over, Mike D'Antoni was an incomplete coach who oversaw a good sprint, but not the marathon of an NBA season/post-season.

Treating defense as a joke.

Not his job to develop young players.

And, worst of all, trying to combine the frenetic pace of SSOL with playing a 7-man rotation. It makes no sense!

It is indeed horrendous. And very short-sighted.

If he is going to be a Head Coach again, it should be back in the Italian league, where you can probably get away with beating a gimmick into the ground. Or, maybe not!