2014 Suns Free Agency

[Sci Fi]

If somehow San Antonio gets Gasol... they will be even stronger.

The Western Conference does not want to see Gasol in SA.

 

[desertdawg]

I don't think Gasol can keep up with the up tempo style both the Suns and the Spurs are into right now. Not a whole year on those wabbly legs.

 

[SirStefan32]

Your throwing lots of macoroni on the wall there, but I don't see any of it sticking.

Generally speaking, a question mark indicates a question. I think I made it perfectly clear that I was just throwing ideas out there. Why don't you enlighten us with your overflowing wealth of knowledge and tell us what the Suns should do instead of just criticizing others?

 

[overseascardfan]

That's the scary part. If they'll take something like the Lakers pick and Green I'd do it but I suspect it would take substantially more. And I'd miss Green.

Steve

I would be willing to give anyone but the PG's plus a pick for him, they won't get a better offer than that. But from what I am reading DET is discussing a 5/$60M deal with Monroe so PHX would be looking at at least $12M a year which isn't bad for a talent like Monroe. Hell, Jordan Hill just got $9M a year from LA, granted no one wants to play in LA...Gasol turned down a 2/$20M deal from LA.

Ok, this is crazy, but if we miss on monroe, why not give pau gasol a 1 year 16 million dollar deal.

We can then use the money again next offseason if needed, still have 7 million for this year, and he gets a huge payday.

Gasol isn't interested in PHX. He is looking at title contenders...SA, OKC & CHI are who its looks like its down to. Phil Jackson is trying to get in the game but NY has to get more than just Carmelo to have a shot at the title...Gasol probably won't want to wait for them to get the pieces as he knows he's going into the last couple years of his career and wants another ring.

 

[desertdawg]

Generally speaking, a question mark indicates a question. I think I made it perfectly clear that I was just throwing ideas out there. Why don't you enlighten us with your overflowing wealth of knowledge and tell us what the Suns should do instead of just criticizing others?

Well since you asked so nicely I will take some time off from my critic thing, the Suns are doing what they should do. Not wasting money by over paying for players that don't fit, or just aren't as good as they used to be. Look at the roster, the ages are getting younger and younger, Tucker is almost 30 but hey. Horny wants to go fast like Ricky Bobby, we just picked up another guard and after watching the Spurs drag the Meat up and down the street for 12 straight quarters... I am really warming up to some fast pace.

These older players that folks want, they aren't the difference makers, they won't get us to the Finals, so why spend more money on them when we are most likely making the Play offs anyway. Getting our young core the time on the floor during the play offs is our road to the promise land. Acquiring real pieces requires real thought, because you have to keep yourself in a position to be able to acquire real pieces when the present themselves.

They're not just naming names and running from one club to the next, in some sad type of attempt to jack them for their talent with out them knowing about it or expecting them to just be ok with it.

I think we're doing what we should, and much thanks for those praising words, you are too kind sir.

 

[SirStefan32]

Take a gamble on Blatche? Go after Humphries as someone else (Eric, I think) suggested? We could also see if Jason Smith would sign for cheap, I suppose. Ed Davis is another option, for sure.

 

[desertdawg]

Take a gamble on Blatche? Go after Humphries as someone else (Eric, I think) suggested? We could also see if Jason Smith would sign for cheap, I suppose. Ed Davis is another option, for sure.

Than we could call everybody else!

 

[PhxGametime]

I'd shop Picks for a big man - Suns have Plumlee, Len, Goodwin, Warren, Ennis, Bogdanovic, etc. for young future.

 

[desertdawg]

I'd shop Picks for a big man - Suns have Plumlee, Len, Goodwin, Warren, Ennis, Bogdanovic, etc. for young future.

I'm excited to see Warren play.

 

[PhxGametime]

Me too. The Suns could have 3 First Rounders (next year) and with the young players already have, I'd keep roster as is and possibly Trade Pick(s) for upgrade at PF or C. Perhaps if Thomas, Bledsoe, and Dragic are here for long haul; maybe Ennis could be added in package deal.

 

[Sci Fi]

Well since you asked so nicely I will take some time off from my critic thing, the Suns are doing what they should do. Not wasting money by over paying for players that don't fit, or just aren't as good as they used to be. Look at the roster, the ages are getting younger and younger, Tucker is almost 30 but hey. Horny wants to go fast like Ricky Bobby, we just picked up another guard and after watching the Spurs drag the Meat up and down the street for 12 straight quarters... I am really warming up to some fast pace.

These older players that folks want, they aren't the difference makers, they won't get us to the Finals, so why spend more money on them when we are most likely making the Play offs anyway. Getting our young core the time on the floor during the play offs is our road to the promise land. Acquiring real pieces requires real thought, because you have to keep yourself in a position to be able to acquire real pieces when the present themselves.

They're not just naming names and running from one club to the next, in some sad type of attempt to jack them for their talent with out them knowing about it or expecting them to just be ok with it.

I think we're doing what we should, and much thanks for those praising words, you are too kind sir.

Do you see the problem with the two highlighted statements?

 

[desertdawg]

Do you see the problem with the two highlighted statements?

No but I'm sure you do.

 

[Joe Mama]

Big men with range and nothing else to offer seem to be fairly easy to find these days. Would you agree? IMO the Suns need Monroe's skills, and could just plug a hole with a 3pt shooting little/bigman to help space the floor in situations.
Is there anyone out there who would come cheap?

Yeah, these guys are just laying around all over the place waiting to get picked up. That's why a 32-year-old Channing Frye who can do nothing but shoot inconsistently (according to most people here) gets a 4 year, $32 million deal. Ryan Anderson is making $8 million per. These guys just don't grow on trees. I'd be all for Monroe if he was actually a good defender and/or could at least hit a 15 foot jump shot somewhat consistently. He's just not that good at anything. He's certainly not a max salary player.

I don't know what we are going to do at 4/5 this year. My hope now is that Alex Len looks really good in the summer league and shows some range, and that Miles Plumlee can get some of those post shots to drop. I was looking through the list of free agent big men the other night and it's pretty depressing. Frankly this free-agent class outside of the three or four superstars is not too exciting.

By the way, Jordan Hill for $9 million? I mean I assume he could have been had for last per season on a multiuser deal which the Lakers did not want to do. It's a team option on the second year and I think it's safe to assume they will not exercise that. Still, that's pretty ridiculous.

What's the protection on that Lakers pick again?

Joe

 

[elindholm]

Take a gamble on Blatche? Go after Humphries as someone else (Eric, I think) suggested? We could also see if Jason Smith would sign for cheap, I suppose. Ed Davis is another option, for sure.

Yeah, of the admittedly unappealing options left on the board, Humphries probably repulses me the least.

 

[Mainstreet]

Yeah, of the admittedly unappealing options left on the board, Humphries probably repulses me the least.

I'm willing to look at Kris Humphries as well. If the Suns are looking for a banger perhaps DeJuan Blair might fit the bill.

 

[Folster]

I wonder if the Bulls are still planning on amnestying Boozer even if they don't land Melo. Snagging him a la Scola would be okay with me.

 

[KloD]

Man, everyone went from I'd rather do nothing than make any stupid moves to let's sign anyone who's 6;9" and over. It's a crappy year for bigs in free agency. The Suns aren't going to contend this year, to think so would be foolish. Why run out and sign someone just to get someone. Yes, we need a starting PF, yes we need more at center. They aren't out there. Next year will be much better for bigs in the draft and free agency. This year all I want them to do is make a smart signing or two, bring back Tucker and Bledsoe and be done. Thomas was a great signing. He's a starting quality guard on a small declining contract that is only 25. Maybe if we can find another like that. I wouldn't be opposed to Monroe, but I also wouldn't' be thrilled, especially if we had to give them something not to match. I just can't relate to this now now now mind set. A year ago we were predicted to be one of if not the worst teams with a bleak future, now we are considered a strong young team on the rise with a good future. Some of the ideas and complaining leaves me thankful that some here have absolutely no say in team decisions. Others I wonder what enjoyment they get in being Suns fans since the management are apparently stupid and have no idea what they are doing. These people spend all their time bitching about the team/front office and little of it if any is rational. Give it time.

 

[Ronin]

Can you believe that we are barelly 11 days into free agency?

 

[Cheesebeef]

for everyone saying there aren't good bigs available, this market has had Bosh, Gasol and Monroe. Those are pretty much as good as you're gonna get in FA mostly because great PFs/Cs never make it to FA.

I wouldn't mind seeing us take a big two year flier on Gasol. We've got the money, have to use it somehow and I think he'd be a really good contributor on this team with a training staff that regularly works miracles. Unfortunately, it seems like this team is allergic to even thinking about big men at this point.

But a starting lineup of:

Bledsoe
Dragic
Tucker
Markieff
Gasol

with a bench of:

Green
Thomas
Goodwin
Morris
Plumlee
Len

would be pretty damn good if healthy/super deep.

 

[KloD]

for everyone saying there aren't good bigs available, this market has had Bosh, Gasol and Monroe. Those are pretty much as good as you're gonna get in FA mostly because great PFs/Cs never make it to FA.

I wouldn't mind seeing us take a big two year flier on Gasol. We've got the money, have to use it somehow and I think he'd be a really good contributor on this team with a training staff that regularly works miracles. Unfortunately, it seems like this team is allergic to even thinking about big men at this point.

But a starting lineup of:

Bledsoe
Dragic
Tucker
Markieff
Gasol

with a bench of:

Green
Thomas
Goodwin
Morris
Plumlee
Len

would be pretty damn good if healthy/super deep.

Personally I don't want him. Not at this point in his career, but let's say the front office did. Maybe they did place a call? Maybe he's demanding high pay and multiple years? Let's see what he ends up agreeing to before complaining we didn't bring him here. Bosh was not available. Neither the Suns, Houston, or anybody could give him the money Miami could and 5 years of Bosh @ $118m, no thanks. Monroe, It will take the max @ 4 years to have a crack at him. That and they may have to give up some assets to get Detroit not to match. Let's wait and see how that plays out before claiming the Suns should go for him. There really isn't any legitimate Big men that are both worth what they will get. I want smart spending. I'm betting Gasol will get far more than he is worth and Bosh already did.

 

[AzStevenCal]

for everyone saying there aren't good bigs available, this market has had Bosh, Gasol and Monroe. Those are pretty much as good as you're gonna get in FA mostly because great PFs/Cs never make it to FA.

I wouldn't mind seeing us take a big two year flier on Gasol. We've got the money, have to use it somehow and I think he'd be a really good contributor on this team with a training staff that regularly works miracles. Unfortunately, it seems like this team is allergic to even thinking about big men at this point.

I'd much rather spend that money on Monroe if we can come up with a number that Detroit won't match. I can't believe Pau is so sought after these days. Since he stopped playing defense 4 or 5 years ago there really isn't much difference between his game and Monroe's except that Monroe is there every night. Only twice in the last 8 seasons has Gasol missed fewer than 16 games and he's averaged 24 absences for the last three seasons. I can't see that getting better.

Steve

 

[WakeForestCard]

I'd much rather spend that money on Monroe if we can come up with a number that Detroit won't match. I can't believe Pau is so sought after these days. Since he stopped playing defense 4 or 5 years ago there really isn't much difference between his game and Monroe's except that Monroe is there every night. Only twice in the last 8 seasons has Gasol missed fewer than 16 games and he's averaged 24 absences for the last three seasons. I can't see that getting better.

Steve

I haven't heard much on the Monroe front from any team this year. Think we actually have a chance / would put up the money for him?

Been lurking here alot, this is my first post. Always enjoy your contributions Steve.

 

[AzStevenCal]

I haven't heard much on the Monroe front from any team this year. Think we actually have a chance / would put up the money for him?

Welcome to the board. Just going off rumors it looks like we're serious about him. I just think Detroit is likely to match any reasonable offer and might even match a max deal. I'd give it a try anyway as I don't see a better place to spend our money and the guy is still improving. I'd hate to have to give up picks and players in addition to overpaying him though.

Steve

 

[WakeForestCard]

How much do you think he'd be worth? To me, a max seems a bit much, but I would love the front court help.

 

[t0rchy]

What's the protection on that Lakers pick again?

Joe

Top 5 protected in 2015
Top 3 protected in 2016 - '17
unprotected in 2018

The Lakers are collecting mediocre players on overpaid contracts. Regarding how weak the east could be, there is a legitimate chance to get the pick betweeen #7 and #9 in 2015 already. This wouldn't be that bad, because I think they won't be much worse in 2016. The Lakers franchise always finds a way to come back somehow.

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