2015-16 Around the NBA

[chickenhead]

It's just the way Duncan went about it. Kobe for instance announced early in the season that it was his last year so he had this big dog and pony show for a whole year where he was being celebrated. Duncan never announced that it was his last year and decided to only make it official in the off-season. I think that just speaks to the kind of person Duncan is that he didn't want to have that huge spotlight following him all season long.

Good for Duncan. Over the years there are going to be plenty of Hall of Fame and Spurs anniversary moments where tribute will be nicely paid. (And I hope someone checks Horry into a table at each and every one.)

 

[leclerc]

+ kick the heels on that old ugly SF. Forgotten his name already, yay!

 

[GatorAZ]

http://www.sportsrageous.com/nba/nb...rook-but-have-one-condition-to-proceed/34601/

Some quality reporting right thurrr. :eyesroll:

 

[Ronin]

Boston Celtics reportedly emerge as a possible trade candidate for Blake Griffin https://t.co/vPXARsl7S3 https://t.co/UtwbuWcpep

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[Chaplin]

Boston Celtics reportedly emerge as a possible trade candidate for Blake Griffin https://t.co/vPXARsl7S3 https://t.co/UtwbuWcpep

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Ok, that doesn't make a lot of sense.

 

[Ronin]

Ok, that doesn't make a lot of sense.

Yeah, the article doesn't say what the Kings would get in return for trading Rudy Gay to the Clippers. weird.

 

[Covert Rain]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...rule-changes-hack-a-shaq-situations/87013528/

Thank goodness. Although this rule change is going to be interesting:

For inbounds situations, a defensive foul at any point during the game that occurs before the ball is released by the inbounder (including a “legitimate” or “natural” basketball action such as a defender fighting through a screen) will be administered in the same fashion as an away-from-the-play foul committed during the last two minutes of any period (i.e., one free throw

So no more fouling to figure out someone's inbound play. Even accidental fouls are going to be very very costly to the defense. Wow.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Thank goodness. Although this rule change is going to be interesting:

For inbounds situations, a defensive foul at any point during the game that occurs before the ball is released by the inbounder (including a “legitimate” or “natural” basketball action such as a defender fighting through a screen) will be administered in the same fashion as an away-from-the-play foul committed during the last two minutes of any period (i.e., one free throw

So no more fouling to figure out someone's inbound play. Even accidental fouls are going to be very very costly to the defense. Wow.

The thing is, most of these changes (all of them?) are just a return to the way it used to be.

 

[Covert Rain]

The thing is, most of these changes (all of them?) are just a return to the way it used to be.

I don't recall the details of all the old rules. However, I think players and coaches have grown accustomed to being able to foul so much on inbound plays and otherwise to gain an advantage on non-basket type plays. The dynamic should be fun to see how it unfolds.

 

[Ronin]

ProBasketballTalk ‏@nbcprobballtalk
Report: Clippers near deal to send C.J. Wilcox to Magic for Devyn Marble, pick

 

[Ronin]

Clippers to waive Devyn Marble. bit.ly/29JyzEl


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[Chaplin]

Who is Devyn Marble? I've never heard of the guy.

 

[Ronin]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojVerticalNBA 16s17 seconds ago
Cleveland has unloaded Sasha Kaun onto Philadelphia, which sources say clears the way for the Cavs' signing of Chris "Birdman" Andersen.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Who is Devyn Marble? I've never heard of the guy.

I think he's Roy marbles son

 

[devilalum]

Sasha Kaun? "I Feel for You, 1984"

 

[Ronin]

Why is Monroe on the trade block? I think I would have him than Miles Plumlee.

Bucks Continue To Shop Greg Monroe In Trade Talks

The Milwaukee Bucks continue to have interest in trading away Greg Monroe this offseason.

The Bucks re-signed Miles Plumlee to a five-year, $52 million deal this week.

Monroe signed a three-year, $50 million deal with the Bucks last offseason but he proved to be a bad fit.
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/242892/Bucks-Continue-To-Shop-Greg-Monroe-In-Trade-Talks

 

[Ronin]

ProBasketballTalk ‏@nbcprobballtalk 5m5 minutes ago
Magic’s Jodie Meeks out indefinitely after foot surgery

 

[AzStevenCal]

Why is Monroe on the trade block? I think I would have him than Miles Plumlee.

I've been saying if for several years now, you can no longer win in the NBA with this kind of player unless you completely design your team around him. It's the same kind of problem that exists for Hibbert, Cousins, Drummond and Okafor (not saying they are all the same). In the case of Drummond and Cousins it's a little more manageable because they are so effective in the things they can do but it's still a challenge.

One of the biggest hurdles has been the fact that they can put up such big stats which usually leads to a max contract deals. But their real value is typically much lower than those stats suggest. You're better off with a limited version of that kind of big, one that can only rebound and defend. If he's a major scoring threat for you too, you're kind of screwed.

And this didn't just happen for the Bucks, they've reportedly been trying to trade Monroe since January.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I think the conversion to small ball will eventually balance out. If you've got a big that can consistently punish the smalls that's a big difference maker. If you're guarding cousins with iggy or Barnes he's likely going to go for 30+ shooting 70%. All the while his counter (iggy or Barnes) has to hit a REALLY high percentage of threes (or a significantly high percentage to open up other high percentage three point shooters) to counter volume scoring with such efficiency from the big man. the reason the Kings stink isn't because cousins makes them play post ball, it's because there isn't much talent around him. Monroe is a totally different story from cousins bc no matter what he isn't punishing your smalls at a 70% or even 60% clip.

There's definitely a movement towards interchangeable parts, but I think that's more a combination of increased efficiency behind the arc AND an indictment of the level of talent of post play today. You can't tell me in his prime shaq or Hakeem doesn't run roughshod over the current state of the league.

 

[AzStevenCal]

I think the conversion to small ball will eventually balance out. If you've got a big that can consistently punish the smalls that's a big difference maker. If you're guarding cousins with iggy or Barnes he's likely going to go for 30+ shooting 70%. All the while his counter (iggy or Barnes) has to hit a REALLY high percentage of threes (or a significantly high percentage to open up other high percentage three point shooters) to counter volume scoring with such efficiency from the big man. the reason the Kings stink isn't because cousins makes them play post ball, it's because there isn't much talent around him. Monroe is a totally different story from cousins bc no matter what he isn't punishing your smalls at a 70% or even 60% clip.

There's definitely a movement towards interchangeable parts, but I think that's more a combination of increased efficiency behind the arc AND an indictment of the level of talent of post play today. You can't tell me in his prime shaq or Hakeem doesn't run roughshod over the current state of the league.

I agree with some of this, certainly Hakeem or Kareem would shine even in today's game. I don't like Cousins as much as you do though as I don't hold him at all blameless for their problems. He dominates the ball far too often and for far too long, oftentimes forcing up a shot or forcing a teammate to create offense at the last second. His own stats look good but it takes a heavy toll on his teammates.

He's at the top of the league in usage rate and he's doing that with a fairly mediocre efficiency rating. He's a good player but he isn't the great player his stats suggest he is, IMO. I'd much rather take Drummond and pray he could learn to make a free throw.

 

[Mainstreet]

The Suns play two games in Mexico City in January against Dallas (1-12-17) and San Antonio (1-14-17).

The NBA schedule will not be out until next month likely but the Suns know when and where two of their games will be -- Jan. 12 and 14 in Mexico City.

Two of the Suns’ regular-season home games will be held at Mexico City Arena: vs. Dallas on Jan. 12 and vs. San Antonio on Jan. 14.

This will be the first time an NBA team will play two regular-season games in Mexico, which has been home to more NBA regular-season and preseason games (22 since 1992) than any nation other than the United States or Canada.

From a Paul Coro article at azcentral.

http://www.azcentral.com/story/spor...-suns-play-2-home-games-mexico-city/87307446/

 

[Mainstreet]

I'm glad to see Dirk Nowitzki sign a 2 year, $50 million dollar contract with the Mavericks. If he completes his new contract, he will have spent 20 seasons in the NBA, all with the Mavericks. This says a lot about player loyalty and team loyalty. I'd like to see more of this.

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/mavs-reportedly-show-dirk-nowitzki-10m-of-extra-love-he-deserves/

 

[GatorAZ]

Wait so we hate on Kobe's contract but not Dirk?

 

[Beaver]

Wait so we hate on Kobe's contract but not Dirk?

Maybe because Dirk doesn't drag his team down?

 

[Cheesebeef]

Wait so we hate on Kobe's contract but not Dirk?

a) Dirk is actually still productive and not coming off back to back seasons where he played like 30 total games.

b) with the cap exploding, the value of the contracts aren't the same. Kobe's pushed the Lakers to the cap and hamstrung them for two years. Dirk's won't do the same because of this year's cap explosion and what people believe will be next year's explosion as well.