2015-16 Around the NBA

[nashman]

Jordan was the greatest ever player all around! But man Steph is the best pure shooter I've ever seen period! Jordan wasn't the best shooter he was just clutch, heart, desire, freak all rolled into athletic freak, no one wanted to win more than that guy.

 

[nashman]

That was the best nba game this season IMO just non stop fun and action start to finish, I bet the ratings were insane!

 

[Cheesebeef]

There's no words for what Steph is doing right now.

 

[Catlover]

I was reading online comments about last night's performance and I couldn't believe how many people attribute Curry's game to being surrounded by a bunch of great players. I honestly think his teammates are some of the most overrated players in the game. They're good but the presence of Curry makes them seem dominant. I wonder what would happen if Curry and Westbrook swapped teams? IMO, OKC would be even better than the Warriors currently are.

I don't know if he should be put in Jordan's class yet, probably needs to do it for a few more years for that kind of comparison. But he's the most entertaining player I've ever seen and that includes Magic and I didn't think I'd ever say that about any non-Suns player.

 

[sunsfan88]

Jordan was the greatest ever player all around! But man Steph is the best pure shooter I've ever seen period! Jordan wasn't the best shooter he was just clutch, heart, desire, freak all rolled into athletic freak, no one wanted to win more than that guy.

Steph's more than just a shooter. He can basically do it all which is what makes him great. When your expecting him to basically make any shot he puts up, he's up there with MJ. Statistically Curry is also having the greatest offensive season any player has ever had in NBA history.

 

[Catlover]

Steph's more than just a shooter. He can basically do it all which is what makes him great. When your expecting him to basically make any shot he puts up, he's up there with MJ. Statistically Curry is also having the greatest offensive season any player has ever had in NBA history.

He is but I wouldn't undersell his value purely as a shooter. I'd call him a top 5 player even if he were no more than average at any other aspect of the game. The ability to get and make your shot efficiently is by far the most important skill an NBA player can have. But he plays decent defense, averages more than 5 boards and 6 assists per game and does it while focus of every defense. For a single season performance, this is as good as it gets.

 

[Phrazbit]

Yeah, I think that Warrior team is a good team, but maybe 50 win team, at best, without Curry, not even close to legit contending. The way he is playing right now, he could be putting up those numbers virtually anywhere. No one is leaving him open, he is drilling these shots with guys defending him to the best of their ability... he just embarrasses them.

Its incredible what he is doing, its hard to quantify it compared to some of LeBron's seasons because LeBron carried a very different load for his team, especially in Cleveland, but its certainly the best offensive talent I've seen in decades. The only comparable offensive impact I can think of from a single player would be Nash during the 04/05 and 05/06 seasons when he won us like 25 games more than we would have without him.

I think his best comparison is Nash, only Nash without the back problems, more athleticism and no-conscious. Maybe some kind of perfect blend of Nash and Ray Allen.

 

[elindholm]

I think his best comparison is Nash, only Nash without the back problems, more athleticism

I'm surprised that this point isn't made more often. Curry's game is like the next evolution of Nash's. Some of the passes Curry makes are clearly out of Nash's playbook. Nash didn't have the athleticism to get his shot off the way Curry does, and he tended to be a bashful scorer, but they're still very similar. (Curry is a better defender, of course.)

 

[JCSunsfan]

I'm surprised that this point isn't made more often. Curry's game is like the next evolution of Nash's. Some of the passes Curry makes are clearly out of Nash's playbook. Nash didn't have the athleticism to get his shot off the way Curry does, and he tended to be a bashful scorer, but they're still very similar. (Curry is a better defender, of course.)

More scoring and less passing from Curry, of course. You have to wonder, will Curry one day wake up, realize that this was an incredible hot streak, and look more human? This cannot continue, can it?

Will he be like Tiger Woods, who looked totally invincible, until he wasnt.

 

[nashman]

The guy is young if his body holds up I think we will continue to see some incredible play from him, he is just a gifted shooter period!

 

[Catlover]

The guy is young if his body holds up I think we will continue to see some incredible play from him, he is just a gifted shooter period!

He is the most gifted shooter ever and so much more. If you think he's only a shooter, I don't think you're watching him play very often.

 

[slinslin]

Curry is not nearly as good as a playmaker. I don't see the Nash comparison at all besides that they are both two of the best shooters ever.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Curry is not nearly as good as a playmaker. I don't see the Nash comparison at all besides that they are both two of the best shooters ever.

I don't think Nash ever had the range that Stephan does, but at that time no one really considered making 30 footers part of their regular arsenal.

 

[sunsfan88]

Yea Curry and Nash aren't close shooting wise. Actually, nobody who has ever played in the NBA is even close to Curry shooting wise, he's in a tier all by himself.

 

[SO91]

They hyperbole is strong in this thread.

 

[Catlover]

They hyperbole is strong in this thread.

Hyperbole means to exaggerate intentionally, I suspect you mean something else. I know I haven't stretched the truth in this thread, at least not on purpose. I really do believe Curry is easily the best shooter the game has ever seen and the stats support that conclusion. I also think he's having arguably the single greatest season anyone has had since the merging of the ABA.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Steph's shot looks so much like his dad's. Just take Dell Curry, and make him more, and you have Steph.

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[GatorAZ]

Curry is on pace for 50/40/90 and attempting 11 three's per game and over 20 FGA's overall. That's unheard of.

 

[SO91]

Hyperbole means to exaggerate intentionally, I suspect you mean something else. I know I haven't stretched the truth in this thread, at least not on purpose. I really do believe Curry is easily the best shooter the game has ever seen and the stats support that conclusion. I also think he's having arguably the single greatest season anyone has had since the merging of the ABA.

You're totally right. I'm going to blame the cold medicine I've been taking Let's call it exaggeration then, which I guess might fit a little better.

 

[Catlover]

You're totally right. I'm going to blame the cold medicine I've been taking Let's call it exaggeration then, which I guess might fit a little better.

That's been one nasty cold going around. We've passed it back and forth a few times in our household. Sleep, ibuprofen (alternating doses with acetaminophen) and liberal use of a vaporizer have worked wonders for us. Good luck with it.

 

[sunsfan88]

https://twitter.com/FanSided/status/704371088004947968

 

[slinslin]

Bledsoe, Knight and Tucker for Irving and Frye

but I think Kyrie is a selfish prima-donna who is hard to coach and not really better than Bledsoe when healthy.

 

[GatorAZ]

Bledsoe, Knight and Tucker for Irving and Frye

but I think Kyrie is a selfish prima-donna who is hard to coach and not really better than Bledsoe when healthy.

Lebron would probably be for it and he's the Cavs GM, Coach and best player.

 

[Catlover]

Lebron would probably be for it and he's the Cavs GM, Coach and best player.

I know very little about the Cavs situation but I have a suspicion they regret having crawled into bed with Lebron and his agency. I think he has less influence there today then he did a year ago. Not that there's a whole lot of information out there to support this. About all I can reference is the lengthy negotiations with Tristan (Lebron's guy) and the rumor that Lebron's camp had been trying and failing for quite some time to get Blatt fired. They also had a different replacement coach in mind than Lue.

 

[Phrazbit]

I think Irving is possibly the most overrated player in the NBA. There is a reason that the pre-LeBron Cavs were repeatedly contending for #1 picks and if people around here think the Bledsoe is lousy passer and too content to play slow then Irving will give them seizures.

IMO Bledsoe is better at every aspect of the game except outside shooting, where he isn't that far behind.