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Draftexpress dropped Willie Cauley-Stein all the way to #11 today.

Something about his medical history.

Stanley Johnson also has some questionmarks about his background.

Givony quoted one GM saying he has never seen so many top guys in the draft with red flags.

Interesting about Cauley-Stein dropping in the mocks. Where the Suns draft at #13, I like the idea of the Suns coming out of the draft with Myles Turner or Bobby Portis in the first round and Mouhammadou Jaiteh in the second round. It's hard to tell where these players will go. I'd like for the Suns to get an early second round pick for Mouhammadou Jaiteh as I think he may be gone before #44.
 

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It worries me to see the big men moving up in the draft.

There are alot of players on a similar level. Even those that seem to be in a second tier are question marks (like Porzingis).

That's the bad news. The good news is that with all those players to choose from, the Suns should get a decent player.

Unless they trade out of the draft for a bag of chips.
 

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Anyone see the measurements that have come out about Porzingis?

http://www.nbadraft.net/forum/kristaps-porzingis-measurements

7' 1.25" WITHOUT shoes
7' 6" wingspan
230 lbs.

Yikes. That's nearly 7-3 in shoes. I wonder how many NBA execs were hoping no one would notice. How many times do you get a 7-3 pf, who is athletic, can run and jump, and has a silky smooth jumper beyond the NBA three.

Wow.
 

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Woj is reporting that Karl wants the Kings to trade Cousins. Which team says no to this:

Lakers: Cousins
Sac: Bledsoe and the #2
Suns: Randall and the #6
 

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Woj is reporting that Karl wants the Kings to trade Cousins. Which team says no to this:

Lakers: Cousins
Sac: Bledsoe and the #2
Suns: Randall and the #6

The Kings. If they were to give up Cousins, there's no way they'd give up the #6 as part of the same deal.

I think it's extremely unlikely that Cousins gets traded, but the #2 might get their attention. For Randall and the #2, they might consider it, but that leaves the Suns out in the cold.

I doubt that anyone wants Bledsoe. The Knicks reports (for example) having nothing behind them.
 

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Anyone see the measurements that have come out about Porzingis?

http://www.nbadraft.net/forum/kristaps-porzingis-measurements

7' 1.25" WITHOUT shoes
7' 6" wingspan
230 lbs.

Yikes. That's nearly 7-3 in shoes. I wonder how many NBA execs were hoping no one would notice. How many times do you get a 7-3 pf, who is athletic, can run and jump, and has a silky smooth jumper beyond the NBA three.

Wow.

He is not that athletic and at that size he will have major trouble defending power forwards which requires stepping out on the perimeter.

He is also a toothpick and does not rebound very well despite the size.

Silky smoot hjumper beyond the NBA three is also way overstating things. Porzingis shot 31% from the euro 3 in the ACB.
 

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Anyway about Mario Hezonja. For as exciting as he seems to draft he is a very risky pick too.
For the descriptions as a great shooter his percentages are not all that great and for the athleticism he has he goes to the line very little.

He does not know his place, he is way too cocky. Kobe Bryant barely gets away with his attitude. And it is not like it is just an act, Hezonja really believes he is all that.

Mario Hezonja could be a major bust too.

He is living off reputation as a big time talent, and occassional highlight plays.

Nobody knows how he will fit in the NBA, fit with NBA players, accept being on the bench and so on.
 
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Draftexpress dropped Willie Cauley-Stein all the way to #11 today.

Something about his medical history.

Stanley Johnson also has some questionmarks about his background.

Givony quoted one GM saying he has never seen so many top guys in the draft with red flags.

I wonder if the Johnson stuff is just beyond the well known stuff that he's a very emotional and immature kid right now and has a bit of an ego? He's reportedly refusing to workout for Charlotte, wants Det at 8 or Mia at 10 to take him. Hasn't publicly stated he doesn't want to go to Charlotte, is just refusing to workout for them. Not totally unusual but I guess there is some talk he's bunched with a group of kids and refusing to workout could cause him to slide.

The reports are he's not shot well in the workouts, everyone thinks he's a good athlete, very strong kid, plays hard, they think he can be a plus defender, but they're all concerned his shot is inconsistent.

Certainly wasn't much negative rumor about him during his recruitment, about the worst you heard was the USC stuff and that was more USC than him, if you're a 16 year old kid and someone gives you the Pangos MVP aware and hands you several pairs of brand new USC shoes, you're probably going to take them, you may even take pics of them and post it on Twitter. As soon as he found out that was a violation, he reportedly returned the shoes. That was the worst thing I heard on him, he didn't grow up poor in a bad neighborhood kind of deal so I sort of doubt he's got that sort of concern.
 

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Stanley Johnson = PJ Tucker

Said this before, I think it is spot on. Obviously Stanley is young and can get a lot better but PJ Tucker is exactly the kind of player Stanley is right now if he practices the corner 3.

As far as Porzingis goes, I somehow have the impression that he is not very competetive and will not reach his potential.
 
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Stanley Johnson = PJ Tucker

Said this before, I think it is spot on. Obviously Stanley is young and can get a lot better but PJ Tucker is exactly the kind of player Stanley is right now if he practices the corner 3.

My thing with him has always been he's so physically strong for his age that he overpowered kids coming up. He improved though, he is a very hard worker and his shot has improved as has his ability to hit a floater. I don't know if his handle is good enough, the plan forhim was to transition to a 2 at Arizona and go into the NBA as a 2. It quickly became apparent he's not a 2 and they adjusted.

Big strong kid rebounds well I think he can play the 3, I'm just not clear if he has enough offensive game because he's not going to physically overwhelm NBA players.

I'm surprised if there are red flags though, he seems to be a good kid.
 

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He is not that athletic and at that size he will have major trouble defending power forwards which requires stepping out on the perimeter.

He is also a toothpick and does not rebound very well despite the size.

Silky smoot hjumper beyond the NBA three is also way overstating things. Porzingis shot 31% from the euro 3 in the ACB.

Everyone agrees that he is athletic and he is an exceptional shooter. If you choose to declare that everyone else is wrong, be my guest. The concern about him is his strength and maybe motor.

From NBAdraft.net

It’s not easy to find a legit 7-footer with great length and high level athleticism ... If you consider how well he runs the floor and his skill level then you can understand why Porzingis is considered one of the most intriguing International players in recent years ... A high level shooter, with a high release, very natural and quick with deep range ... Ideal qualities to be a pick and pop stretch 4, however Porzingis is also pretty good shooting from off the bounce or coming off flair screens ... His ability to put the ball on the floor in spot up situations is very underrated ... Unlikely that he will ever have the core and leg strength of Dirk, but the young Latvian has a lot of upside and if developed in the right way, and he could become a huge piece for many teams in today's NBA where a stretch 4 can be a key element for spacing ... Porzingis has great instincts to run in transition, and often outhustles opposing bigs for easy dunks ... If he can improve his finishing ability, we are talking about a high level player capable creating his own shot from a number of areas ... Defensively his size and wingspan make him a tough opponent to score over, he gives good rim protection, and he has good enough feet where he can show hard on pick and roll, or even switch and still create some problems for the ball handler ... Once he gets more physical he can easily plug the ball screen ... The bottom line is that Porzingis has every tool to make a really good contribution for whichever team that drafts him, and he can be an impact player for many years in the league .
 
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Porzingis will be gone before the 13th pick for sure. He might even go in top 5
 

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Latest SI mock has WCS, Kaminsky, and Stanley Johnson all available at #13. Now that would be a tough choice.
 

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