2015 1st round pick is DJ Humphries OT

[Shane]

Why wouldn't you attempt to ensure everyone's replacement is of the highest quality possible? We didn't do anything to prepare for the departure of Dan Williams.

This logic makes no sense. Why not draft a replacement for Rashad Johnson in the first round? Jonathan Cooper?

You want to ensure that a player's potential replacement is of the highest quality as is reasonable. Right tackle is your fourth- or fifth-most important OL position. Drafting a first-rounder to sub out that player feels a lot like a budget play (maybe get 85% - 110% of the production at 40% of the cost) than an improving your team play.

I feel like the discussion of wanting to build the team through the draft is increasingly hot air. Part of building a team through the draft is re-signing your players--including your middle-roster veterans like Massie.

Spot on

 

[juza76]

Why wouldn't you attempt to ensure everyone's replacement is of the highest quality possible? We didn't do anything to prepare for the departure of Dan Williams.

This logic makes no sense. Why not draft a replacement for Rashad Johnson in the first round? Jonathan Cooper?

You want to ensure that a player's potential replacement is of the highest quality as is reasonable. Right tackle is your fourth- or fifth-most important OL position. Drafting a first-rounder to sub out that player feels a lot like a budget play (maybe get 85% - 110% of the production at 40% of the cost) than an improving your team play.

I feel like the discussion of wanting to build the team through the draft is increasingly hot air. Part of building a team through the draft is re-signing your players--including your middle-roster veterans like Massie.

right
part of building a team is resigning your good players,but massie is not good

 

[CFLredzoned]

right
part of building a team is resigning your good players,but massie is not good

If we could re-sign him to backup money when he's due, it would be a win-win. I don't think that's going to happen though.

 

[Cardsfan77]

Why wouldn't you attempt to ensure everyone's replacement is of the highest quality possible? We didn't do anything to prepare for the departure of Dan Williams.

This logic makes no sense. Why not draft a replacement for Rashad Johnson in the first round? Jonathan Cooper?

You want to ensure that a player's potential replacement is of the highest quality as is reasonable. Right tackle is your fourth- or fifth-most important OL position. Drafting a first-rounder to sub out that player feels a lot like a budget play (maybe get 85% - 110% of the production at 40% of the cost) than an improving your team play.

I feel like the discussion of wanting to build the team through the draft is increasingly hot air. Part of building a team through the draft is re-signing your players--including your middle-roster veterans like Massie.

Wait, can you explain how RT is the 4th or 5th most important OL position on this team when we have a not so mobile pocket passing QB and a run game that ranked dead last? Also, I think you're doing the position an injustice by not looking at it in terms of big picture importance vs other units ie OL vs DB vs DL...

 

[splitsecond]

When K9 doesn't like something, he goes to the ends of the earth to show us why. Nothing to see here folks, move along.

 

[kerouac9]

Wait, can you explain how RT is the 4th or 5th most important OL position on this team when we have a not so mobile pocket passing QB and a run game that ranked dead last? Also, I think you're doing the position an injustice by not looking at it in terms of big picture importance vs other units ie OL vs DB vs DL...

1 - LT, protects the quarterback's blind side
2 - C, makes the line adjustments and calls so the QB can focus on the defensive back 7
3 - LG, pulls across both sides of the formation; helps the LT on inside blitzes and stunts

Then it's an argument between RG and RT.

I've already addressed that Palmer survived 2013 with Brown and Sowell blocking for him; he's not a shrinking violet out there. And D.J. Humphries is charitably described as a work in progress as a run blocker.

 

[Jetstream Green]

1 - LT, protects the quarterback's blind side
2 - C, makes the line adjustments and calls so the QB can focus on the defensive back 7
3 - LG, pulls across both sides of the formation; helps the LT on inside blitzes and stunts

Then it's an argument between RG and RT.

I've already addressed that Palmer survived 2013 with Brown and Sowell blocking for him; he's not a shrinking violet out there. And D.J. Humphries is charitably described as a work in progress as a run blocker.

'And D.J. Humphries is charitably described as a work in progress as a run blocker', so for the record... then you are agreeing he sucks at run blocking lol

 

[kerouac9]

'And D.J. Humphries is charitably described as a work in progress as a run blocker', so for the record... then you are agreeing he sucks at run blocking lol

I'm not saying that. I'm saying that the argument that we needed to draft D.J Humphries because we couldn't run the ball last year is a non sequitur.

 

[MadCardDisease]

The Cardinals stayed true to their draft board. Drafted a quality player who can play both LT and RT. I think this improves our OL and now we have a potentially solid young talented OL in place for years to come. This year we even have solid depth across the OL.

So as a Cardinal fan who has witnessed some of the worst OLs in history this is an exciting time!

 

[Cardsmasochist]

Does anyone remember the offensive line we had in 1975? One of the keys to that line was Conrad Dobler, who during his career was known as the meanest man in football. Along with Dan Dierdorf and the others, they only allowed 8 sacks that year which was an NFL record.

Give Palmer a line like that and he'll look like Superman.

And Conrad Dobler was drafted in the fifth round, not the first.

 

[Denny Green Fan]

Scout friend likes Humphrey.

Big deal, I don't.

I fell to my knees when Ray got picked but I told my brother " at least Brown

fell". That was a gift and we didnt take it.

 

[Sunburn]

After awhile to reflect, I'm no longer disappointed in the pick. Offensive line is the foundation of the offense. Like a house, everything else is built upon it. After personally witnessing how important the offensive line actually is, I will never complain about investing a first rounder in it.

 

[Totally_Red]

After awhile to reflect, I'm no longer disappointed in the pick. Offensive line is the foundation of the offense. Like a house, everything else is built upon it. After personally witnessing how important the offensive line actually is, I will never complain about investing a first rounder in it.

Unless it is the son of Levi Brown.

 

[82CardsGrad]

Why wouldn't you attempt to ensure everyone's replacement is of the highest quality possible? We didn't do anything to prepare for the departure of Dan Williams.

This logic makes no sense. Why not draft a replacement for Rashad Johnson in the first round? Jonathan Cooper?

You want to ensure that a player's potential replacement is of the highest quality as is reasonable. Right tackle is your fourth- or fifth-most important OL position. Drafting a first-rounder to sub out that player feels a lot like a budget play (maybe get 85% - 110% of the production at 40% of the cost) than an improving your team play.

I feel like the discussion of wanting to build the team through the draft is increasingly hot air. Part of building a team through the draft is re-signing your players--including your middle-roster veterans like Massie.

Question - Do you think BASK had a draft board?

 

[splitsecond]

In theory we have upgraded every weak spot on the OL now. If this guy is as good as NFL.com analysts think he is, and as good as my buddy who's brother is on the staff at Florida say he is, a line of Veldheer, Iupati, Shipley, Cooper, Humphries could be pretty good.

 

[CardsFan88]

Give Palmer a line like that and he'll look like Superman.

Mild mannered starting QB by day, crime fighter by night. It's...Super Palmer

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[Chopper0080]

Interesting reactions when we don't pick for need, and instead go with the BPA on many people's boards.

I don't love it, but I didn't love what Massie did last year either. Nice, cost controlled player who can play LT or RT. One of the few tackles this year that can legitimately project to the left side.

I don't see a 10+ sack pass rusher available, and many have commented about how the ILBs were small.

 

[don7031]

This is such a profoundly stupid take. Palmer was injured when a guy reached out a nudged his shoulder, and if you're replacing a player based on one play... well, that's just stupid.

Palmer doesn't get injured if Massie doesn't blow his assignment and let an edge rusher come in unabated to the quarterback. And it sure wasn't just one play that caused the coaching staff to lose faith in Massie, but that one play ended the Cardinals season.

 

[D-Dogg]

Play him at center!!

Until we draft Gallik, of course. Unless the Steelers steal him out from under us like they did Dupree.

 

[kerouac9]

Palmer doesn't get injured if Massie doesn't blow his assignment and let an edge rusher come in unabated to the quarterback. And it sure wasn't just one play that caused the coaching staff to lose faith in Massie, but that one play ended the Cardinals season.

This is some ugly revisionist history. Massie was blocking his man, as you can see below. The SS came on a blitz off the edge. Either the RB was supposed to pick him up or there was a hot read. Palmer actually did what he was supposed to and stepped up in the pocket.

Palmer getting injured was NOT Massie's fault. Cooper gave up the sack that ended Stanton's season. Maybe we should replace him.

 

[juza76]

palmer got injured cause his ligaments was done

 

[Hollywood]

This is some ugly revisionist history. Massie was blocking his man, as you can see below. The SS came on a blitz off the edge. Either the RB was supposed to pick him up or there was a hot read. Palmer actually did what he was supposed to and stepped up in the pocket.

Palmer getting injured was NOT Massie's fault. Cooper gave up the sack that ended Stanton's season. Maybe we should replace him.

Thank you. For a minute I thought I was going insane.

 

[kerouac9]

Thank you. For a minute I thought I was going insane.

I think we can all agree that it was Rob Housler's fault.

Followed by Kevin Minter's.

 

[splitsecond]

palmer got injured cause his ligaments was done

best post of the day, 10/10.

 

[ajcardfan]

palmer got injured cause his ligaments was done

I don't blame him for being in a hurry to get home and eat. Ligaments in buffalo sauce are great eating!!!