2016 NBA Draft thread

[sunsfan88]

That basically describes Ben Simmons provided he improves his good-looking jumpshot.

Simmons' one possible comparison is a taller version of Draymond Green anyway.

I've been saying that the best comparison for Simmons is Draymond Green for some time now.

People compare him to LeBron, but he's not LeBron, he's a less defensively skilled version of Draymond Green. And when Green came into the league, he wasn't originally a great defender or anything either.

 

[sunsfan88]

We need a pf. The best job description for the pf we need would be:

Rebounds exceptionally well,
plays good D in the midrange out to the three point line,
passes well, not a black hole on offense,
emotional leader,
excellent work ethic,
locker room leader,
shoots effeciently out to 18 feet.

Sounds almost like Shawn Marion from back in the day.

 

[Dan H]

We need a pf. The best job description for the pf we need would be:

Rebounds exceptionally well,
plays good D in the midrange out to the three point line,
passes well, not a black hole on offense,
emotional leader,
excellent work ethic,
locker room leader,
shoots effeciently out to 18 feet.

Draymond Green type of player.

Brice Johnson?

 

[slinslin]

Brice Johnson?

Second round pick or Cleveland pick.

Suns don't need an exceptional rebounder at PF. Len is way above average as a rebounder. It would be nice to have but it is not the main quality we need.

It is way more important that our PF can be a threat in the pick and roll.

Also I have no idea why our PF needs to be a leader. That is simply not going to happen and no rookie could provide that. Leadership has to come from other players already on the team.

 

[JCSunsfan]

That basically describes Ben Simmons provided he improves his good-looking jumpshot.



Simmons' one possible comparison is a taller version of Draymond Green anyway.

Does Simmons play D?

Brice Johnson sound like it, so does Sabonis.

 

[AzStevenCal]

I've been saying that the best comparison for Simmons is Draymond Green for some time now.

People compare him to LeBron, but he's not LeBron, he's a less defensively skilled version of Draymond Green. And when Green came into the league, he wasn't originally a great defender or anything either.

There were questions about his ability to guard at the next level but he was a great college defender. And looking for the next Draymond Green is like searching for a unicorn or the next Charles Barkley. Fortunately, Simmons has true NBA PF size so he doesn't have to be the once in a lifetime collection of traits that make up Draymond Green.

 

[slinslin]

Does Simmons play D?

Brice Johnson sound like it, so does Sabonis.

Sabonis is a center not a PF, he does not sound like a fit at all for what the Suns need at the 4.

 

[hcsilla]

Brice Johnson?

He looks like the 2nd coming of Dante Cunnigham, an athletic combo F without any true NBA skills.

 

[SirStefan32]

Sabonis is a center not a PF, he does not sound like a fit at all for what the Suns need at the 4.

I disagree. If Len can play PF successfully, so can Sabonis. Young man has great basketball IQ and his footwork is amazing on both ends of the floor. If he can improve him jumper, he'll be a fine PF. Don't get me wrong, I would rather have Blake Griffin or Anthony Davis at 4, but neither of them is available.

 

[elindholm]

If Len can play PF successfully, so can Sabonis.

I think we're a long way from reaching the conclusion that Len can play PF successfully. He may post some nice numbers once in a while, but the Suns are still terrible. The test of a weird experiment like a double-C set is whether it can lead to wins.

 

[AzStevenCal]

I think we're a long way from reaching the conclusion that Len can play PF successfully. He may post some nice numbers once in a while, but the Suns are still terrible. The test of a weird experiment like a double-C set is whether it can lead to wins.

I've reached the conclusion he can't play PF successfully, at least not next to a center like Chandler. It might work next to someone that also possesses some power forward skills but not with our roster. He's probably a slight upgrade at the PF position for us but that's due to a lack of starter material at that position. We're horrible defensively with the two centers and our offense also has some issues as a result of this pairing.

 

[slinslin]

I disagree. If Len can play PF successfully, so can Sabonis. Young man has great basketball IQ and his footwork is amazing on both ends of the floor. If he can improve him jumper, he'll be a fine PF. Don't get me wrong, I would rather have Blake Griffin or Anthony Davis at 4, but neither of them is available.

He hangs around the rim almost exclusively, reliest on craftiness and strength to get his buckets. And while he had good games at the NCAA tournament the rest of his production mainly came against small colleges.

I have not seen face up game from Sabonis or perimeter skills.

And like I said he is a terrible athlete. He pretty much projects as a backup center.

Also the Len at PF experiment is hardly successful. Len only plays there because our PF options are horrendous.

Jon Leuer can provide a lot of what Sabonis does.

We need some athleticism in the frontcourt in the worst way imaginable.

 

[slinslin]

I've reached the conclusion he can't play PF successfully, at least not next to a center like Chandler. It might work next to someone that also possesses some power forward skills but not with our roster. He's probably a slight upgrade at the PF position for us but that's due to a lack of starter material at that position. We're horrible defensively with the two centers and our offense also has some issues as a result of this pairing.

So essentially Len could play PF if he plays next to a center that can play PF?

So basically Len would be the center and the center would be the PF.

 

[AzStevenCal]

So essentially Len could play PF if he plays next to a center that can play PF?

So basically Len would be the center and the center would be the PF.

Yeah, basically, at least on offense. I don't know if it will ever work defensively unless he's paired with someone like Gobert who can dominate at the rim and still cover territory.

 

[sunsfan88]

I don't like the twin towers idea as much as I used to.

The NBA has changed now to a point where your PF has to be very versatile and can move around in the perimeter. I don't think Len is that.

Even the Spurs changed their starting lineup and brought Duncan off the bench with Diaw starting over him when they played against the Warriors and beat the Warriors.

 

[Mainstreet]

It appears the Suns are wanting to bring Bogdan Bogdanovic over next season. Ryan McDonough feels he could help the Suns and they would like to get him on a rookie scale contract rather than wait when he could command more money. If the Suns can get a commitment from Bogdan and his agent this could effect the Suns thinking in the draft and free agency as well.

The following quotes are from Adam Green at Arizona Sports. See more at the link below.

A 6-foot-6 wing player, he could be an intriguing addition to next year’s team as it looks to end a playoff drought that has reached six years, the longest such spell in the franchise’s history.

According to Suns GM Ryan McDonough, that’s essentially how they see him.

“So Bogdan’s having another good year for Fenerbache, they’re one of the top teams in Europe — they play in the Turkish League and they’re one of the better teams in the Euroleague, which is the best basketball league in Europe,” he told Burns and Gambo on Arizona Sports 98.7 FM Wednesday. “So we’re going to go meet with Bogdan after the season; he does have ways to get out of his contract with Fenerbache and come to the NBA.

“We’ll present a plan for him about how we kind of envision his role with the Suns.”

“I think it would be better for us if we know going into the draft and as we approach free agency if we’re going to have him or not,” he said. “We’ll still determine what the time-table is for him to make a decision, but I know it’s something we’re focused on and as I mentioned, I’ll go over and meet with him as soon as our season ends and spend some time with him.

“If we can get a commitment from him and his agent that he’ll be in a Suns uniform next year, I think that would certainly help us with some clarity as we approach the draft and free agency.”

http://arizonasports.com/story/6127...-bring-bogdan-bogdanovic-to-team-next-season/

 

[JCSunsfan]

Sabonis is a center not a PF, he does not sound like a fit at all for what the Suns need at the 4.

He is a pf. That is where he is projected to play in the NBA. He can easily defend the pf spot and he has range to play it. I do not know why you keep saying he is a center.

 

[GatorAZ]

Sabonis reminds me of a taller Scola. I really like him.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Sabonis reminds me of a taller Scola. I really like him.

I like Sabonis. I really hope you're wrong on the Scola comparison.

 

[Mainstreet]

I like Sabonis. I really hope you're wrong on the Scola comparison.

I was waiting for this.

I remember the discussions we had about Scola.

It seems he is still being productive.

 

[Errntknght]

I like Sabonis. I really hope you're wrong on the Scola comparison.

I think he was referring to their bball IQ. Scola was quite crafty, if you recall.

 

[GatorAZ]

I like Sabonis. I really hope you're wrong on the Scola comparison.

Yeah who wouldn't want an 18/8/3 guy in the post.

 

[GatorAZ]

I think he was referring to their bball IQ. Scola was quite crafty, if you recall.

Both skilled but below-the-rim guys. Productive but won't blow your socks off.

 

[AzStevenCal]

I think he was referring to their bball IQ. Scola was quite crafty, if you recall.

He was. And I'm sure he has value in the right system. I just hate his style of play, as I might have mentioned once or twice before.

 

[SirStefan32]

Sabonis is much more mobile than Scola. He is a better defender and rebounder as well.