2016 NBA Playoffs Thread

[Russ Smith]

Assuming Adams has a long career I predict he will shatter the record for the most flagrant fouls engendered.

I'm actually not sure what he did that got Green that annoyed he was just playing defense at that point and I hadn't really seen him do anything earlier in this game that explained it. I think Green was just frustrated he was having such a bad game and finally thought he was going to get a shot to go and Adams hammered him and he just lost his composure.

Really bad play by Green.

I think Kerr at this point has to change his lineup, start Iggy for Barnes. I think he needs to play Speights. They're a much better defensive team with Bogut in there but in this series he can't seem to do anything right, missing easy shots, getting out rebounded, keeps getting quick fouls. The one thing Speights does is bring one of those bigs away.

 

[Southpaw]

I'm actually not sure what he did that got Green that annoyed he was just playing defense at that point and I hadn't really seen him do anything earlier in this game that explained it. I think Green was just frustrated he was having such a bad game and finally thought he was going to get a shot to go and Adams hammered him and he just lost his composure.

Really bad play by Green.

I believe it goes way beyond losing his composure. The guy is a whacko. Instead of a suspension Adams should get a free shot at Green's *******. Even more bizarre are Green's excuses post game.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Hard to believe we might not see the Warriors or the Spurs in the finals. That is possible. The Warriors seem to have really lost their composure.

 

[Ronin]

SportsCenterVerified account ‏@SportsCenter 17m17 minutes ago
The NBA is expected to rule on any potential discipline for Draymond Green today. (via @ESPNSteinLine)

 

[Mainstreet]

Draymond Green should be suspended for one or more games for kneeing Adams. I wonder if the NBA has the guts to do it.

 

[Russ Smith]

Hard to believe we might not see the Warriors or the Spurs in the finals. That is possible. The Warriors seem to have really lost their composure.

Yep 2 of the 3 games they seemed to get all out of whack and just started jacking up quick shots and not getting back on defense.

Kerr has been very critical of their effort since the game last night hopefully he can get the point across to them these guys aren't just going to roll over they're better than Portland was you have to play better or you will lose the series.

 

[elindholm]

Instead of a suspension Adams should get a free shot at Green's *******.

Heh!

 

[Russ Smith]

I believe it goes way beyond losing his composure. The guy is a whacko. Instead of a suspension Adams should get a free shot at Green's *******. Even more bizarre are Green's excuses post game.

I don't think his denials are bizarre at all. If it was intentional and he admits it was, he'll get suspended for sure. He's doing what he can to try and not get suspended now that's just human nature.

Draymond is way too vocal his screaming And 1 all the time clearly ticks off the refs and actually decreases the odds of him getting calls. The Warriors in this series have a specific issue with one ref, Scott Foster, and largely because they think his missed calls led to Livingston losing his cool and getting kicked out last series so they're very ticked that he's now working this series too.

They have to get past that, and Green lost his cool repeatedly last night the dumb foul that gave KD 3 shots right at the end of the half was another example of it. He is having the same issue he had against Mozgov in the finals last year he's going in expecting calls and trying to draw fouls instead of trying to make the shot and force them to make a good play. He's a big strong kid he needs to attack the rim and try to rip it down, if they block that ok, but he's going in soft throwing his arms up and yelling and 1 and the refs get tired of that stuff.

Great player, had a terrible game, and put his team in major jeopardy of losing the series by quite possibly getting suspended.

 

[GatorAZ]

There are so many gifs going around on Twitter of Green kicking his leg out earlier this year and last. Dude needs to be taught a lesson.

Man if OKC goes thru the Spurs, Warriors and Cavs it would be the most impressive playoff run in NBA history. The 95' Rockets also had an impressive run despite being the road team in every series.

 

[Russ Smith]

There are so many gifs going around on Twitter of Green kicking his leg out earlier this year and last. Dude needs to be taught a lesson.

Man if OKC goes thru the Spurs, Warriors and Cavs it would be the most impressive playoff run in NBA history. The 95' Rockets also had an impressive run despite being the road team in every series.

I think Green needs to stop talking until after the NBA makes their ruling. He said today that Westbrook kicked him, not in the goods, right before halftime. I know Kerr said the same thing and anybody who watches Westy play has seen that he kicks his leg out trying to draw contact, big difference though between that and what Green did.

Draymond needs to be quiet until it's done and hope he doesn't get suspended.

I agree so far Donovan has seriously outcoached Kerr and that's on the heels of beating the Spurs and Pop. Very impressive so far.

the Wariors have to make more 3's, play better defense and either learn to finish against the OKC bigs, or learn how to draw fouls on them, and yelling and 1 is not how to draw fouls.

 

[FArting]

https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA/status/734890016757952512

 

[Mainstreet]

Draymond Green is not suspended so Steven Adam should feel free to take revenge.

These are not the days of David Stern or maybe they are with selective enforcement.

 

[Phrazbit]

The league is so gutless. If a bench player had delivered that shot it is a guaranteed suspension. Hell, I bet it is a suspension for Green if the Warriors were up 2-1 instead of down.

 

[elindholm]

Draymond Green is not suspended so Steven Adam should feel free to take revenge.

These are not the days of David Stern or maybe they are with selective enforcement.

The league has learned its lesson from the Stoudemire/Diaw suspensions. That incident ruined that series and dealt a crippling blow to what had been one of the league's most successful long-term franchises, the lack of a championship notwithstanding. It's fair to say that the Suns still have not recovered from that decision.

 

[Mainstreet]

The league has learned its lesson from the Stoudemire/Diaw suspensions. That incident ruined that series and dealt a crippling blow to what had been one of the league's most successful long-term franchises, the lack of a championship notwithstanding. It's fair to say that the Suns still have not recovered from that decision.

I don't think the league cares one iota about the Suns or that series.

Indeed, the Suns have not recovered. Things would have been much different without the suspension of Stoudemire and Diaw.

 

[Phrazbit]

I don't think the league cares one iota about the Suns or that series.

Indeed, the Suns have not recovered. Things would have been much different without the suspension of Stoudemire and Diaw.

I think they care that the black lash of the obvious unfairness was so strong that the finals that year were the least watched finals since the merger or something crazy, despite a dynasty going against the biggest star in the NBA.

But IMO this one would not have played out like that, you gotta have an allegiance to the Warriors to not see that Green was way outta line, nothing at all like a couple guys walking like 5 feet off the bench (and then going back without incident) while their teammate was splay out out on the court.

 

[elindholm]

It's going to be hard for the Finals to top the WCF, no matter which team advances to face the Cavs. Curry and Westbrook are the two most compelling players in the league, and third place is a long way off.

 

[Cheesebeef]

That decision is beyond gutless. Didn't Dante Jones JUST get suspended for basically the same thing in the Toronto series?

Complete and utter horsecrap. Now I'm actively rooting for GS to lose whereas I wanted to see them make a run at history.

 

[Cheesebeef]

It's going to be hard for the Finals to top the WCF, no matter which team advances to face the Cavs. Curry and Westbrook are the two most compelling players in the league, and third place is a long way off.

There's no doubt this series has ALL the best/youngest talent in the league, but I think whoever wins facing off against LeBron with his full stable will be a ratings bonanza and I'd look forward to that matchup a lot.

 

[Mainstreet]

That decision is beyond gutless. Didn't Dante Jones JUST get suspended for basically the same thing in the Toronto series?

Complete and utter horsecrap. Now I'm actively rooting for GS to lose whereas I wanted to see them make a run at history.

IMO, it is a stigma to the NBA and leaves even more question marks about how the league is run. There is no consistency in the way rules are enforced.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Yeah, I can't understand the reasoning here, that should have been an easy call by the league to suspend Green for a game. It would have been an expensive message but it's one they just sent for Jones, how can you back away from it with a player just because he's critical to a team's chances? I could see it if it was a warranted retaliation but this was straight out of Karl Malone's playbook in a league that supposedly no longer tolerates that kind of stuff.

Also, on another playoffs topic, I'm surprised by how comfortable Isaiah Thomas seems to be as a part-time analyst. He's much better at this than any of the other former players I've seen. Even the most well spoken athletes usually take a while to become effective in this role but he's been smooth and insightful from the beginning. He'll be an immediate hire IMO in 8 years or so when his playing career comes to an end.

 

[Russ Smith]

That decision is beyond gutless. Didn't Dante Jones JUST get suspended for basically the same thing in the Toronto series?

Complete and utter horsecrap. Now I'm actively rooting for GS to lose whereas I wanted to see them make a run at history.

They said on ESPN this morning that the league considered Jones to be clearly intentional because he tried to hide that he threw the punch.

With Green, I think the reason is he said the ref told him I don't think you did it intentionally but you made contact with his groin area so that's a T. I figured if that was true, and it must be the ref hasn't refuted it, they MIGHT not suspend him, but I figured they still would.


I am quite surprised I fully expected a 1 game suspension.

 

[Russ Smith]

It's going to be hard for the Finals to top the WCF, no matter which team advances to face the Cavs. Curry and Westbrook are the two most compelling players in the league, and third place is a long way off.

Curry has been pretty pedestrian by his standards. I think he's clearly not 100% and it's impacting his ability to drive. He often gets 10-12 a game on drives or back cuts when people overplay him but I think he's shying away from contact now because of the knee and ankle.

He's still getting numbers of course but really hasn't had even a half let alone a complete game where he's been en fuego just a couple of quarters.

It'll be interesting to see if Westbrook has truly figured out the value of moving the ball or not. He's been terrific at driving drawing the D and then kicking in this series.

 

[Cheesebeef]

They said on ESPN this morning that the league considered Jones to be clearly intentional because he tried to hide that he threw the punch.

that's all well and good, but Green tried to hide a kick to the groin... and did it even more poorly then Jones.

 

[Russ Smith]

that's all well and good, but Green tried to hide a kick to the groin... and did it even more poorly then Jones.

Scott Foster the ref the Warriors hate is apparently the guy who saved Green because he said he didn't think it was intentional.

I don't agree, I think if you flail around trying to draw a foul, and hit someone in the process, you should get penalized.

It goes back to Ginobili who used to hit people in the face all teh time while flailing about trying to draw fouls.

I'm surprised Green didn't get suspended.

Boy hats off to the Raptors what a gutty comeback in the series.