2016 NFL Wild Card Round: Steelers @ Bengals

[devilalum]

Vontaze the victim.

He's not a victim, but he isn't much different than hundreds of dirty players that have come before him.

 

[GatorAZ]

None of this happens if Hill doesn't fumble. The Bengals have nobody to blame but themselves as usual.

 

[SO91]

The hit on the receiver at the end was a penalty but they don't even get to that point if not for all the great plays he made before. Its just too easy to blame it all on him.

It was a stupid play and he's a POS, but they didn't lose on that play alone. The weak 15 yd penalty on Pacman sealed it, but their defense crapped the bed on that final drive. Ben couldn't throw more than 10 yds and somehow the Steelers still managed to get first downs and extend the drive.

 

[Bert]

Are you kidding me? Darkside is saying there was absolutely nothing wrong with that play. Called it "A good football play".

Take it easy,,, I did not see his post. /bows But still, it's just his opinion.

Play was awful. I agree. I dont think it was the worst hit ever or anything, but it was bad. Still, I have zero tears for the Steelers who have dished out many a dirty hit in their day...

I feel bad for loyal Bengals fans who are crushed right now. Burfict just single handedly proved (again) that while he has a huge upside, his downside is just not worth it. The fans dont deserve that, I mean they weren't all booing.

 

[MrYeahBut]

Let's just all whine now when dudes get hit going over the middle. Wah. What kind of sissies play football now, seriously. You can't hit a guy over the middle anymore? How are you supposed to hit him and send a message? Please.

Dude in the movie Aliens when they took away his ammo said... What are we supposed to do.. Use harse language?

 

[Bert]

Let's just all whine now when dudes get hit going over the middle. Wah. What kind of sissies play football now, seriously. You can't hit a guy over the middle anymore? How are you supposed to hit him and send a message? Please.

This is all Will Smiths fault...

 

[devilalum]

Take it easy,,, I did not see his post. /bows But still, it's just his opinion.

Play was awful. I agree. I dont think it was the worst hit ever or anything, but it was bad. Still, I have zero tears for the Steelers who have dished out many a dirty hit in their day...

I feel bad for loyal Bengals fans who are crushed right now. Burfict just single handedly proved (again) that while he has a huge upside, his downside is just not worth it. The fans dont deserve that, I mean they weren't all booing.

Without Burfict's play in the 4th the Steelers win easy and there is no last second play to argue about.

 

[Phrazbit]

Take it easy,,, I did not see his post. /bows But still, it's just his opinion.

Play was awful. I agree. I dont think it was the worst hit ever or anything, but it was bad. Still, I have zero tears for the Steelers who have dished out many a dirty hit in their day...

I feel bad for loyal Bengals fans who are crushed right now. Burfict just single handedly proved (again) that while he has a huge upside, his downside is just not worth it. The fans dont deserve that, I mean they weren't all booing.

I agree, it wasn't the worst hit ever, Vonteze himself has done worse things.

I feel bad for Bengal fans, I'm sure they have a lot of really good ones who have suffered arguably worse than we have over the years. However, I don't feel bad for the organization. It is very poetic that penalties by Pacman Jones and Burfict just ruined their season, a couple guys that only teams like the Bengals and Cowboys are willing to employ.

 

[TJ]

The hit on the receiver at the end was a penalty but they don't even get to that point if not for all the great plays he made before. Its just too easy to blame it all on him.

You know why it's easy to blame him? Because he has a very long history of similar unruly behavior that on numerous occasions, has cost his teams dearly.

As an ASU fan, you should have more awareness of this than I, but apparently, you feel the need to come to his defense when it's fairly obvious to anyone who watches football that Burfict is among the dirtiest players in football, so much so that his antics far overshadow any positive plays he makes.

 

[Bert]

Without Burfict's play in the 4th the Steelers win easy and there is no last second play to argue about.

But his downside ultimately stole the victory that his upside almost brought them. Isn't it ironic? Dont ya think?

 

[Darkside]

He didn't even have the ball! You're still allowed to pop a guy if you time it correctly and he actually has the ball or a chance at it. That isn't what Vonteze was doing. The ball was gone, the receiver was defenseless and Vonteze went for the absolute most dangerous hit he could on a guy who was no threat at that point in the play.

I don't know why I'm bothering to debate with anyone about it. That play was utterly disgusting and I don't see how anyone can defend that kind of conduct. Its not hard nosed tough football. That was a filthy play by a cowardly piece of garbage.

I just watched the replay from multiple angles on NFL network. He didn't go for the most dangerous hit he could on the guy, give me a break. Penalty, maybe, but the ball was in the air toward him, you act like the play was on the other side of the field, the ball was going to him. Burfict couldn't even avoid contact at that time.

We live is such a wussified culture. Why even play contact sports anymore, if you consider that some crime that should be punishable by banishment from the game?

You see that commercial where the guy is walking off the field into the parking lot with his son, his son hands him the trophy, and the dad is like, wait, participation trophy, but we won every game? You're the guy who wrote participation.

 

[Bert]

I agree, it wasn't the worst hit ever, Vonteze himself has done worse things.

I feel bad for Bengal fans, I'm sure they have a lot of really good ones who have suffered arguably worse than we have over the years. However, I don't feel bad for the organization. It is very poetic that penalties by Pacman Jones and Burfict just ruined their season, a couple guys that only teams like the Bengals and Cowboys are willing to employ.

Two of my very least favorite football players of all time.

 

[Darkside]

Dude, do you really think the officials would allow us to beat the Stealers????? Not in a MILLION years. The Stealers have been blessed with calls for the past 50 years. We would never be allowed that revenge, never!!!

We will have our revenge.

 

[devilalum]

You know why it's easy to blame him? Because he has a very long history of similar unruly behavior that on numerous occasions, has cost his teams dearly.

As an ASU fan, you should have more awareness of this than I, but apparently, you feel the need to come to his defense when it's fairly obvious to anyone who watches football that Burfict is among the dirtiest players in football, so much so that his antics far overshadow any positive plays he makes.

As an ASU fan I blame that entire era on Dennis Erickson. Burfict wasn't the only player racking up penalties for the Devils.

 

[babedimancheff]

the league is happy with it.
you really think they wanted a second round with Hoyer and McCarron?

 

[SO91]

the league is happy with it.
you really think they wanted a second round with Hoyer and McCarron?

So now they get Landry Jones?

 

[Darkside]

Darkside is saying there was absolutely nothing wrong with that play. Called it "A good football play".

Yep, that's good football from where I come from. We didn't play from the sidelines with pom poms dude. It's football. Get over it. When did you start watching anyway? It's not the worst play over the middle ever, you're acting like he ran into the crowd and murdered his family. Get over it man. It's a good hit. Penalty, fine...back in the day they'd lay hits just to send a message not to come over the middle, didn't even matter where the ball was...and sure, that's not football now, but let's not get all hysterical over it. I mean cmon dude. You're raising your skirt and hopping on a table over nothing.

 

[Darkside]

Dude in the movie Aliens when they took away his ammo said... What are we supposed to do.. Use harse language?

LOL nice, but you better apologize after. Funny.

 

[Shaggy]

That hit Burfict put on Brown was one of the dirtiest, most dangerous, unnecessary hits I have seen in quite some time. Brown could have seriously been injured by that. There is no room for plays like that in football.

Yea, I think Burfict could have backed off, but Brown put his head down when he saw Burfict coming. If he didn't do that, Burfict's shoulder would have hit his shoulder.

 

[Phrazbit]

I just watched the replay from multiple angles on NFL network. He didn't go for the most dangerous hit he could on the guy, give me a break. Penalty, maybe, but the ball was in the air toward him, you act like the play was on the other side of the field, the ball was going to him. Burfict couldn't even avoid contact at that time.

We live is such a wussified culture. Why even play contact sports anymore, if you consider that some crime that should be punishable by banishment from the game?

You see that commercial where the guy is walking off the field into the parking lot with his son, his son hands him the trophy, and the dad is like, wait, participation trophy, but we won every game? You're the guy who wrote participation.

lol, not in the slightest. I love hard nosed, hard hitting play, but there is line between playing physically and obviously just flat out trying to injure people and Vonteze crosses that line more than anyone in the NFL. When you're diving at the back of guy's knees well after the ball is gone, when you're trying to twist guys knees and ankles after plays are dead... when you're lowing your shoulder/head while running full stride at a defenseless player's... its not football, its not sport, its pure garbage thuggery and a piece of crap like him should not be allowed in the game.

JJ Watt is a magnificent football player, he smears players left and right, he imposes his will on people. Our own Deone Bucannon is one of my favorite players on the roster, I love the way he lights people up. That isn't what Vonteze does and that isn't what that play was about. He was trying to hurt a guy, nothing more, nothing less.

And the idea that he couldn't avoid contact or was doing anything besides trying to nail Brown in the side of the head is laughable, that guy is a supreme athlete with tremendous agility and reflexes (just look at his pick), and he used those skills to attempt to decapitate a defenseless opponent.

 

[SO91]

As an ASU fan I blame that entire era on Dennis Erickson. Burfict wasn't the only player racking up penalties for the Devils.

Burfict was a POS in High School, he was a POS at ASU, and he's a POS now.

 

[Phrazbit]

You're raising your skirt and hopping on a table over nothing.

I'm not saying it was one of the most violent penalties of all time, but it absolutely was one of the stupidest. It just cost his team the game, it cost his team their season, its going to remembered for ages and its going to define that idiots career. Claiming that is "nothing" is far more to the extreme than I am taking this context.

 

[187]

Went to ASU when burfict played there, not at all surprised. He's a *******, but a very talented ******* at that. Even with a coach like BA who would more than happy to chew his ass out every day, I'm not sure you can keep his hot headedness in check once the flip is switched in his brain.

 

[Darkside]

lol, not in the slightest. I love hard nosed, hard hitting play, but there is line between playing physically and obviously just flat out trying to injure people and Vonteze crosses that line more than anyone in the NFL. When you're diving at the back of guy's knees well after the ball is gone, when you're trying to twist guys knees and ankles after plays are dead... when you're lowing your shoulder/head while running full stride at a defenseless player's... its not football, its not sport, its pure garbage thuggery and a piece of crap like him should not be allowed in the game.

JJ Watt is a magnificent football player, he smears players left and right, he imposes his will on people. Our own Deone Bucannon is one of my favorite players on the roster, I love the way he lights people up. That isn't what Vonteze does and that isn't what that play was about. He was trying to hurt a guy, nothing more, nothing less.

And the idea that he couldn't avoid contact or was doing anything besides trying to nail Brown in the side of the head is laughable, that guy is a supreme athlete with tremendous agility and reflexes (just look at his pick), and he used those skills to attempt to decapitate a defenseless opponent.

Yes, I'll agree with you on Burfict on those other plays, but we're talking about this one specific play dude. One play. And I'm fine with it. You're biased based on his whole body of "work", while I'm merely talking about one play. Do I like the dude? No. But that play wasn't dirty, I don't believe he meant to inure him, because had he wanted to, as you say, with an athlete's reflexes and agility, he could have put him in the hospital long term if he wanted. I think you need to look at the play from different angles quite honestly. It's one play, and that one wasn't his worst, nor did he mean to injure him (on that play). IMO that's a football play that deserved to be penalized perhaps, but isn't dirty. These offensive guys have all the advantages, and sometimes, especially over the middle, you need to put a hurt on some dudes to stop it. That doesn't mean injuring them, but hurting them for trying. That's football. I really don't have a problem with it, even though I hate that I'm defending a player like Burfict.

 

[Darkside]

I'm not saying it was one of the most violent penalties of all time, but it absolutely was one of the stupidest. It just cost his team the game, it cost his team their season, its going to remembered for ages and its going to define that idiots career. Claiming that is "nothing" is far more to the extreme than I am taking this context.

Yes, that I totally agree with, it was stupid in that context.

I should add that he's an idiot and I don't even like the dude, I just don't think it was a dirty hit. Stupid hit, yes.