2018/19 Trade Deadline Recap & Discussion

[Mainstreet]

Markieff Morris traded to the Pelicans.

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[Mainstreet]

So what they traded Barnes while the game was happening tonight? That game finished like 30 minutes ago.

Here is the photo.

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[SirStefan32]

Ouch!

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Man there’s a ton of movement this year. And so much of it that isn’t exactly evident in the goals of the deals.

Interesting that it seems Washington is just having a fire sale. Amazing and sad the dominoes falling in the wake of the Wall injury/contract.

 

[Suns_fan69]

Man there’s a ton of movement this year. And so much of it that isn’t exactly evident in the goals of the deals.

Interesting that it seems Washington is just having a fire sale. Amazing and sad the dominoes falling in the wake of the Wall injury/contract.

There's rumors that Lakers are still after Ariza. Will be interesting to see if deal actually materializes.

 

[Hoop Head]

Markieff Morris traded to the Pelicans.

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A former Sun for a former Sun. Both being part of the team during some of the worst seasons in franchise history. I can see why the Pelicans did that deal because they lose nothing, or next to nothing, but they have Randle and Mirotic still so they've created a PF logjam.

I would think that is a precursor to another deal. They have 3 starting PF's and Davis with Davis being the only one who can play Center without giving up a ton of size.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Man there’s a ton of movement this year. And so much of it that isn’t exactly evident in the goals of the deals.

Interesting that it seems Washington is just having a fire sale. Amazing and sad the dominoes falling in the wake of the Wall injury/contract.

Yeah, none of these trades really seem designed to make a team much better (maybe Philly). I guess there's some salary relief going on but this is a lot of activity for so little real change.

 

[SunsTzu]

No way. They just took on all of NYs salary in exchange for their expiring deals.

There are some variables but if Prozingis actually signs the QO instead of an extension as he said he would they will have over 30mil in cap space. That is with a 9.5 mil hold on Dirk and picking up Jackson's option. I'm sure they'd like to re-sign Kleber and they don't have his Bird rights so they may need to free up some extra cash to keep him and max space(I don't see Dirk having any problem taking a reduced pay if he comes back and Jackson isn't a core piece). Finney-Smith is also a RFA and so if he signs an offer sheet they'd have to move quick while his cap hold is still low.

I can see them making a strong push for Kemba early and if they miss out go after a couple of complimentary players to surround Doncic and Prozingis. The Mavs are in terrific position as long as they don't get burned with Porzingis(either with injuries or bolting as a UFA).

 

[SunsTzu]

Huh. Not sure I see the play there.

Kings pushing hard for a playoff berth and Mavs trying to keep their pick this year expecting a big turnaround next year to lower the quality of the pick they have to convey.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Kings pushing hard for a playoff berth and Mavs trying to keep their pick this year expecting a big turnaround next year to lower the quality of the pick they have to convey.

Huh I guess so with mavs. Their end of the deal was more a question mark to me.

 

[ColdPickleNachos]

Bobby Portis being dealt to Washington is interesting to me. Portis is exactly the type of player the Suns could use at power forward. Solid rebounder with size and energy who can also stretch the floor. Here's an article about how he was the Bulls' glue guy (post punchout): https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bulls/bulls-teammates-react-losing-glue-team-bobby-portis

He'll be a restricted free agent this offseason, and the Wizards may be hesitant to match decent offers given their precarious financial situation.

 

[Hoop Head]

Bobby Portis being dealt to Washington is interesting to me. Portis is exactly the type of player the Suns could use at power forward. Solid rebounder with size and energy who can also stretch the floor. Here's an article about how he was the Bulls' glue guy (post punchout): https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bulls/bulls-teammates-react-losing-glue-team-bobby-portis

He'll be a restricted free agent this offseason, and the Wizards may be hesitant to match decent offers given their precarious financial situation.

They just got out of Porters contract and I'm surprised they did that while receiving a decent player in return. I doubt they want to get locked into a similar contract but at the same time they won't have cap space throughout the duration of Wall's contract. They need to resign their own free agents if they hope to compete for anything. They won't compete for a title but they will compete for a playoff spot if nothing else, the joys of being in the East and being in a division with bad teams like Orlando, Atlanta, Miami, and Charlotte.

 

[Phrazbit]

Bobby Portis being dealt to Washington is interesting to me. Portis is exactly the type of player the Suns could use at power forward. Solid rebounder with size and energy who can also stretch the floor. Here's an article about how he was the Bulls' glue guy (post punchout): https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bulls/bulls-teammates-react-losing-glue-team-bobby-portis

He'll be a restricted free agent this offseason, and the Wizards may be hesitant to match decent offers given their precarious financial situation.

I'd be weary of offering Portis a multi-year deal. A few players with questionable chemistry of their own isn't enough to convince me that Portis isn't a problem. If asked I will bring up the numbers again, but the Bulls were jaw-droppingly better with Mirotic in the game than Portis, Portis didn't like that he was losing PT and getting out played by some euro-softy so he cold clocked him in practice and broke Mirotic's face.

I don't really think we need to add the kind of player who, as a response to being outplayed, would assault a teammate.

The Bulls lumping him into this swap of ugly contracts only reinforces the idea that offering this dude a real contract is a bad idea.

 

[ColdPickleNachos]

I'd be weary of offering Portis a multi-year deal. A few players with questionable chemistry of their own isn't enough to convince me that Portis isn't a problem. If asked I will bring up the numbers again, but the Bulls were jaw-droppingly better with Mirotic in the game than Portis, Portis didn't like that he was losing PT and getting out played by some euro-softy so he cold clocked him in practice and broke Mirotic's face.

I don't really think we need to add the kind of player who, as a response to being outplayed, would assault a teammate.

The Bulls lumping him into this swap of ugly contracts only reinforces the idea that offering this dude a real contract is a bad idea.

Everything Im reading about the incident indicates that Mirotic was the aggressor in the altercation and that teammates generally sided with Portis afterwards because he was trying to reconcile and Mirotic was not. My understanding is they were battling for position, Mirotic had shoved him a few times earlier in practice, and he charged at Portis. Either way, there is a long history in the NBA of team skirmishes. Michael Jordan himself famously punched teammates. Portis just happens to be really good at it, apparently.

I'd love to see the stats in more detail, but I believe you of course. I remember there was a stretch where Mirotic was ridiculously efficient in Chicago. I'd be in favor of adding him to the Suns instead...I just think a 23-year-old Portis would be a nice option as well.

Edit: Of course, I could be wrong and the positive press could all be a spin. One thing that can't be debated...Booby Portis has "crazy eyes".

 

[Mainstreet]

A former Sun for a former Sun. Both being part of the team during some of the worst seasons in franchise history. I can see why the Pelicans did that deal because they lose nothing, or next to nothing, but they have Randle and Mirotic still so they've created a PF logjam.

I would think that is a precursor to another deal. They have 3 starting PF's and Davis with Davis being the only one who can play Center without giving up a ton of size.

As you note, it sounds like another trade may be in the works with the Pelicans and the Wizards save a couple of million or so in the trade.

Markieff Morris is mostly a name that brings back bad memories for me now.

 

[JCSunsfan]

I'd be weary of offering Portis a multi-year deal. A few players with questionable chemistry of their own isn't enough to convince me that Portis isn't a problem. If asked I will bring up the numbers again, but the Bulls were jaw-droppingly better with Mirotic in the game than Portis, Portis didn't like that he was losing PT and getting out played by some euro-softy so he cold clocked him in practice and broke Mirotic's face.

I don't really think we need to add the kind of player who, as a response to being outplayed, would assault a teammate.

The Bulls lumping him into this swap of ugly contracts only reinforces the idea that offering this dude a real contract is a bad idea.

Oh I had noticed this too. And the Pelicans noticeably improves when Mirotic arrived. I would be scared to add Portis to my team. He is a hot head in the locker room.

 

[Mainstreet]

This may be the Lakers last offer for Anthony Davis.

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Kuzma, Ingram and Hart would be nice additions who are under contract beyond this season.

I'm thinking Ball will be traded for an additional pick(s).

 

[overseascardfan]

This may be the Lakers last offer for Anthony Davis.

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Kuzma, Ingram and Hart would be nice additions who are under contract beyond this season.

I'm thinking Ball will be traded for an additional pick(s).

I think NO waits until offseason because BOS package if it involves Tatum is more appealing IMO than Ingram and Kouzma. The LA picks could be in same range as BOS if AD helps LA make the playoffs.

 

[Mainstreet]

I think NO waits until offseason because BOS package if it involves Tatum is more appealing IMO than Ingram and Kouzma. The LA picks could be in same range as BOS if AD helps LA make the playoffs.

Could be. I'm really a fan of Kuzma which makes it interesting for me.

 

[AzStevenCal]

I think NO waits until offseason because BOS package if it involves Tatum is more appealing IMO than Ingram and Kouzma. The LA picks could be in same range as BOS if AD helps LA make the playoffs.

I'm surprised he's shown so little improvement in his second season. I'm really not sure he's valued much higher than Ingram or Kuzma especially when you consider the Brad Stevens factor?

 

[Proximo]

This may be the Lakers last offer for Anthony Davis.

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Kuzma, Ingram and Hart would be nice additions who are under contract beyond this season.

I'm thinking Ball will be traded for an additional pick(s).

I like the laker offer better. Hart and Zubac are good young players that Boston is not really matching.

Tatum may be the best player in either offer but I do not think he is a lot better than kuzma.

If I am the pelicans GM I do the laker deal today.

 

[Mainstreet]

I like the laker offer better. Hart and Zubac are good young players that Boston is not really matching.

Tatum may be the best player in either offer but I do not think he is a lot better than kuzma.

If I am the pelicans GM I do the laker deal today.

I feel the same.

Zubac will become a free agent this summer but they should have a good chance to keep him.

 

[Mainstreet]

Maybe nothing happening with Lakers and Pelicans.

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[JCSunsfan]

I'm surprised he's shown so little improvement in his second season. I'm really not sure he's valued much higher than Ingram or Kuzma especially when you consider the Brad Stevens factor?

Isn't this what people said prior to the draft? Tatum would be good right away, but his long term upside was limited. Last year this time, that seemed silly, but now it seems right on.

We are going to have to be patient with Jackson, even more so with Ayton.

 

[Hoop Head]

The Pelicans don't need a PF like Kuzma though, they have Randle, Mirotic, and now Markieff. So while he is a good young player the fit isn't there. With Tatum, and Horford, they can plug those 2 right in and try to retool without needing to trade Holiday right away. I like the Boston offer because it allows them to try to retool and if that fails then they have pieces like Horford and Holiday to trade for assets to go with Tatum and Smart to get their rebuild off the ground.