2018 Playoffs Thread

[Cheesebeef]

The next wave in the NBA isn't interchangeable wings, unconventional lineups, or any other fashion du jour. It's length. Not height, length. Length shuts down passing lanes, alters shots, gets to loose balls, and finds a way to make an impact. The Suns' emphasis should be on players who play long.

been saying the same for a while now. People here tend to be prisoner of the moment more often than not. Don't look to build chasing today's trend. Smart teams will look to the future to see where the league is going when they construct your club. Those that build based on today's trend will get left in the past.

It's the same line of thinking here that confuses me SO MUCH about keeping McD this summer... but then only giving him half or all of next season to prove his worth and if we're still not good, he's gone. If you're in for McD this summer, you have to be in for the long haul with McD and this next coach, IMO not to mention you have to be patient for however long this year's pick takes to develop. Because if you're not and people here start calling for McD's head mid-season or after next season, that means that coach he signed this year ends up being a lame-duck immediately when a new GM comes in... a remnant of the past regime that likely is looking at the door sooner, rather than later.

 

[leclerc]

Well here in Norway it's been known for years that basketball and volleyball is a tall people sport.

 

[JCSunsfan]

The next wave in the NBA isn't interchangeable wings, unconventional lineups, or any other fashion du jour. It's length. Not height, length. Length shuts down passing lanes, alters shots, gets to loose balls, and finds a way to make an impact. The Suns' emphasis should be on players who play long.

The next wave in the NBA isn't interchangeable wings, unconventional lineups, or any other fashion du jour. It's length. Not height, length. Length shuts down passing lanes, alters shots, gets to loose balls, and finds a way to make an impact. The Suns' emphasis should be on players who play long.

Ayton, JJJ, Bamba. But Bagley plays long too with his athleticism.

 

[Mainstreet]

Ayton, JJJ, Bamba. But Bagley plays long too with his athleticism.

I was high on drafting Bagley (if Ayton is gone) but what discouraged me a bit is scouts see him as a center similar to Stoudemire. Right now, I can't imagine him being anywhere that good as a center.

 

[pokerface]

I was high on drafting Bagley (if Ayton is gone) but what discouraged me a bit is scouts see him as a center similar to Stoudemire. Right now, I can't imagine him being anywhere that good as a center.

Was Stoudemire a good center? His defense was suspect and his rebounding was poor for a big man. Bagley will probably be better on the boards than Amare was.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Kevin Love is a shadow of his former self.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Was Stoudemire a good center? His defense was suspect and his rebounding was poor for a big man. Bagley will probably be better on the boards than Amare was.

Amare gets a bad rap on rebounds. He wasn't a great rebounder but he wasn't bad either. Although I do agree that Bagley will probably out-board him. Stat didn't rebound quite as well after leaving the Suns but he still ended up with a respectable 9.1 per 36 average (9.4 with Phoenix).

 

[pokerface]

Amare gets a bad rap on rebounds. He wasn't a great rebounder but he wasn't bad either. Although I do agree that Bagley will probably out-board him. Stat didn't rebound quite as well after leaving the Suns but he still ended up with a respectable 9.1 per 36 average (9.4 with Phoenix).

Ok. But I remember in the playoffs he got out hussled on the boards. There were times he got 4 or 5 boards in a playoff game.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Ok. But I remember in the playoffs he got out hussled on the boards. There were times he got 4 or 5 boards in a playoff game.

He actually rebounded better in the postseason than he did in the regular season until his last year here. The Lakers dominated him on the boards and IIRC, Portland did also. I remember thinking (and posting) that he must have decided to leave us because his effort and performance down the stretch and in the playoffs was a shadow of how he played for much of the season. He was great, and then he was invisible.

 

[Mainstreet]

Was Stoudemire a good center? His defense was suspect and his rebounding was poor for a big man. Bagley will probably be better on the boards than Amare was.

With a 7 foot wingspan I doubt Bagley will be better on the boards than Amare. Let's not forget Amare was an athletic freak. He also had all the tools to do anything he wanted prior to injury. In today's NBA Amare would be an ideal center.

 

[Cheesebeef]

With a 7 foot wingspan I doubt Bagley will be better on the boards than Amare. Let's not forget Amare was an athletic freak. He also had all the tools to do anything he wanted prior to injury. In today's NBA Amare would be an ideal center.

Bagley was a rebounding machine in college and Amare never seemed to care all that much about it.

 

[Mainstreet]

Bagley was a rebounding machine in college and Amare never seemed to care all that much about it.

Amare could do anything he wanted before injury. He seemed to prefer offense but he had the tools to play the 4 or 5 and rebound. I think a lot had to do with motivation. Bagley will have a ceiling on what he can do because of wingspan.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Amare could do anything he wanted before injury. He seemed to prefer offense but he had the tools to play the 4 or 5 and rebound. I think a lot had to do with motivation. Bagley will have a ceiling on what he can do because of wingspan.

His raptor-esque arms are a bit of concern for Bags, but he attacks rebounding like a mother.

 

[pokerface]

With a 7 foot wingspan I doubt Bagley will be better on the boards than Amare. Let's not forget Amare was an athletic freak. He also had all the tools to do anything he wanted prior to injury. In today's NBA Amare would be an ideal center.

Barkley was a good rebounder and he was said to be six four and a half. It's not about size necessarily

 

[Mainstreet]

His raptor-esque arms are a bit of concern for Bags, but he attacks rebounding like a mother.

I like Bagley. Have him ranked right behind Ayton at the moment but I think the wingspan will be an issue on the next level.

 

[Mainstreet]

Barkley was a good rebounder and he was said to be six four and a half. It's not about size necessarily

Barkley used his posterior to clear room. LOL

Honestly, I don't know how good Bagley will be but Amare and Barkley were special.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Barkley was a good rebounder and he was said to be six four and a half. It's not about size necessarily

It may not be just about size but in addition to Barkley's double wide butt, he had great length for his height.

 

[Cheesebeef]

It may not be just about size but in addition to Barkley's double wide butt, he had great length for his height.

not to mention, Chuck was an insane athlete, especially in his prime. He had great quicks, hops and had great second hops for rebounding.

 

[Mainstreet]

It may not be just about size but in addition to Barkley's double wide butt, he had great length for his height.

Also good rebounders seem to almost instinctively get good position for the rebound and knowing where the ball comes off the rim. They have great anticipation and have a hunger for the ball.

 

[pokerface]

not to mention, Chuck was an insane athlete, especially in his prime. He had great quicks, hops and had great second hops for rebounding.

That's my point. That's why Bagley could be a good rebounder. All these other things could play despite wingspan.

 

[Ronin]

Kyle Korver's three with 3:48 left in the 4th quarter Sunday would give the Cavaliers the lead for good. Over the last five seasons, Korver is tied with Stephen Curry for the most go-ahead threes in the 4th quarter (regular season and playoffs).

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[Ronin]

CBS Sports‏Verified account@CBSSports 2m2 minutes ago

Manu Ginobili joins John Stockton & Karl Malone as the only 40-year olds to put up 15+ Points and 5+ Assists in a postseason game.

 

[Ronin]

PJ Tucker on way to Locker room and this looks very bad for the Rockets. He started to lose the dribble, got bent over, tried to stop, knee got all kinds of stress

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[Hoop Head]

Not good for Houston at all. They're already without Mbah a Moute for at least a month and now Tucker. Those 2 were their best defensive forwards. They were 2 of the only guys who could actually defend most opposing PF's. They have Ryan Anderson still but he's not a defender, at all. Tucker was their 2nd best rebounder. Lucky for them that Paul and Harden are both good rebounders for their positions to help make up for their loss but they'll struggle in the next round. I don't think they'll lose the series to the Wolves.

 

[Ronin]

Micah Adams‏Verified account@MicahAdams13

Donovan Mitchell is averaging 27.5 PPG. The only rookies in NBA history to average more in the playoffs are Lew Alcindor, Wilt Chamberlain, George Mikan and Michael Jordan. Rookies simply don't do what Mitchell is doing, regardless of however many shots he takes.