2018 QB Class

[GatorAZ]

Darnold and Rosen make some mind-boggling bad throws.

 

[DVontel]

We won’t be THAT bad to get Rosen, but I really hope we get Lamar.

Darnold & Allen are just..........no.

 

[Praxis]

Do not want Rosen. Bad decision maker with a bad attitude. Also not mobile.

Darnold is skilled, but still raw. I think he will be good.

Falk is nothing special.

Haven't seen Allen.

Don't think Jackson is a NFL QB. Skinny guys also have trouble staying on the field.

Mayfield is not a big guy (only 6'1'') and not as skilled as other QBs, but he doesn't throw picks and he makes plays. Not sure I want to pick him early, but he has potential.

Not a fan of Rudolph or Browning. Don't see either being in the NFL very long.

 

[Ronin]

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[cardpa]

Btw, and sorry if this has been answered: isn't Trace McSorley of Penn St draft eligible this year?

Talk about Favre-like temperament (if not quite the arm)

Yes he is.

 

[cardpa]

Personally I think they should trade away the first round pick because they only screw it up anyway. Maybe get a high end proven player that isn't too old for it.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Lamar Jackson is listed at 6'3 205. While that's thin, in about 2-3 years, he'll probably be in the 220's easily. He has the arm to play in the NFL and no doubt has the running ability. I'm more of a traditional pocket passer guy but Jackson is changing my mind. Plus, I think he can stand in the pocket and make all the throws. It's not like he's surrounded by elite talent at Louisville either.

Btw, I do like the PSU kid too. Just not sure on his arm strength.

 

[cardpa]

Lamar Jackson is listed at 6'3 205. While that's thin, in about 2-3 years, he'll probably be in the 220's easily. He has the arm to play in the NFL and no doubt has the running ability. I'm more of a traditional pocket passer guy but Jackson is changing my mind. Plus, I think he can stand in the pocket and make all the throws. It's not like he's surrounded by elite talent at Louisville either.

Btw, I do like the PSU kid too. Just not sure on his arm strength.

Here's an article about McSorley. It is very informative.

https://www.theringer.com/2017/8/30/16222424/trace-mcsorley-penn-state-football-deep-ball

 

[Gandhi]

Plus, I think he can stand in the pocket and make all the throws. It's not like he's surrounded by elite talent at Louisville either.

You think so? Because that has by far been my biggest concern with Jackson. I have not yet studied him that much, and I know it is sort of prejudiced with running quarterbacks, but I cannot help but think of Robert Griffin, Jake Locker, Johnny Manziel or other quarterbacks who have been able to create a lot with their feet but has not quite had the pocket presence required to play in the NFL. To me, pocket presence is maybe the most important athletic skill for a quarterback.

You believe he can do it?

 

[cardpa]

Just watched some Jackson highlights and it appears to me he is a running QB who also happens to throw the ball. Most throws appear to be deep passes which he throws nicely, however that is after the defenses have loaded the line to stop the run and the WR is one on one with the DB. From what I can see he is a one read QB and any pressure is turned into an automatic scramble where he takes off and runs. He doesn't keep his eyes downfield once he feels any pressure at all.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

You think so? Because that has by far been my biggest concern with Jackson. I have not yet studied him that much, and I know it is sort of prejudiced with running quarterbacks, but I cannot help but think of Robert Griffin, Jake Locker, Johnny Manziel or other quarterbacks who have been able to create a lot with their feet but has not quite had the pocket presence required to play in the NFL. To me, pocket presence is maybe the most important athletic skill for a quarterback.

You believe he can do it?

You're right in that QB's who run first are usually not long for the NFL and Jackson may be in that mold. But, with the right coaching, he has the arm to make the throws from the pocket and can become a pocket passer. He's not a sure thing at all but he has a great skill set. Plus, from what I've read, he's very coachable, a great leader and teammate.

 

[Ronin]

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[overseascardfan]

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I honestly think ARZ options for drafting QBOTF should come down to Jackson or Mayfield. Rosen & Darnold (if he comes out) are too risky at the top. Say what you want about Mayfield but barring an injury I think he ends up going in first round because he is the safe pick compared to the other QBs having major flaws.

 

[WisconsinCard]

You're right in that QB's who run first are usually not long for the NFL and Jackson may be in that mold. But, with the right coaching, he has the arm to make the throws from the pocket and can become a pocket passer. He's not a sure thing at all but he has a great skill set. Plus, from what I've read, he's very coachable, a great leader and teammate.

Agreed, and I have him as my number one QB in next years draft. The kid can "spin it", and make every throw any scout would want to see. He accurate enough and I think he can develop better timing and loft on his deep balls. He is mobile, but needs to add some bulk, which I don't see to be a big problem. Can't wait to see what he really measures though. This could be the reason he might fall a bit in the draft, but he isn't making it to the Cards draft spot unless we make a bold move and go get him. IMO

 

[Ronin]

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[Ronin]

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[Southpaw]

Memphis and Riley Ferguson went off last night.... again. Riley Ferguson is getting little if no appreciation as a potential NFL draft choice.

Last night he went off for this

"2. Then Riley Ferguson caught fire: Memphis scored nearly every time it got the ball in the second half. It came down to third-down execution, and most of the touchdowns went to running back Patrick Taylor (four scores in a career performance for him), but Memphis moved the ball with quarterback Riley Ferguson. Anthony Miller finished with 178 yards on 10 catches, and Tony Pollard had 91 yards on nine grabs, leading a Memphis group of receivers that picked Houston apart 20 yards at a time. Ferguson finished the game with 471 yards on 33-for-53 passing with his only touchdown being the game-winning score to Sean Dykes on a 21-yard pass with 1:28 left to play. "

https://www.cbssports.com/college-f...as-houston-blew-a-17-0-halftime-lead-at-home/
I am all over Ferguson and WVU's Will Grier. These guys have no fear and loads of talent.

BTW, they have NFL size and should perform well at the Underwear Olympics aka Combine.

Mason Rudolph still looks like the #1 qb taken.

 

[Ronin]

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[unseenaz]

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lol oh boy

 

[Southpaw]

If a comparison for Mayfield is necessary how about Russell Wilson?

 

[overseascardfan]

If a comparison for Mayfield is necessary how about Russell Wilson?

I say more like Brees. Short QB, accurate, big game player. Don’t think he’s as elusive or has Wilson’s arm strength.

 

[Southpaw]

I say more like Brees. Short QB, accurate, big game player. Don’t think he’s as elusive or has Wilson’s arm strength.

Completely opposite opinion. Elusive with an NFL arm... we can disagree.

Good read by an evaluator ;

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Let's talk about on the field. The NFL is traditionally hesitant of quarterbacks shorter than 6'2" and is equally uninterested in passers from spread offenses. Mayfield is both. But his play on Saturdays looks like that of a future NFL starter. In size (6'1", 220 lbs) and ability, he's very similar to Russell Wilson (5'11", 215 lbs). Wouldn't NFL teams want another Wilson?

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Could Mayfield emulate Russell Wilson at the next level?Jae C. Hong/Associated Press
Said one area scout, "The difference between Russ and Baker is football IQ. Russ ran a pro scheme at Wisconsin, not this high school offense at Oklahoma." While it's true that Wilson was more prepared for the NFL coming out of college, Mayfield is executing more pro concepts this season (reading high to low, working through progressions, throwing from the pocket). And like Wilson, Mayfield will have five years of college experience, which, in theory, can allow for a quicker progression to the NFL.

Anonymous NFL sources might be afraid to come out and say it, but I'm not: Baker Mayfield can be a franchise quarterback.

even goes so far as to say "Baker Mayfield can be a franchise quarterback."

 

[Chopper0080]

lol...anonymous sources...

 

[Buckybird]

I say more like Brees. Short QB, accurate, big game player. Don’t think he’s as elusive or has Wilson’s arm strength.

Watch him a whole game! He's Wilson part 2

 

[Buckybird]

Yep. I've been saying it for over a year now! His game is very similar & much more like RW than the Brees comparisons peeps here are throwing out.

My GF is a huge Tech fan so I've seen Mayfield play for 4 years now. I can tell you he's night & days better the last 2 seasons than at Tech.

I luv this kid!

Completely opposite opinion. Elusive with an NFL arm... we can disagree.

Good read by an evaluator ;

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Let's talk about on the field. The NFL is traditionally hesitant of quarterbacks shorter than 6'2" and is equally uninterested in passers from spread offenses. Mayfield is both. But his play on Saturdays looks like that of a future NFL starter. In size (6'1", 220 lbs) and ability, he's very similar to Russell Wilson (5'11", 215 lbs). Wouldn't NFL teams want another Wilson?

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Could Mayfield emulate Russell Wilson at the next level?Jae C. Hong/Associated Press
Said one area scout, "The difference between Russ and Baker is football IQ. Russ ran a pro scheme at Wisconsin, not this high school offense at Oklahoma." While it's true that Wilson was more prepared for the NFL coming out of college, Mayfield is executing more pro concepts this season (reading high to low, working through progressions, throwing from the pocket). And like Wilson, Mayfield will have five years of college experience, which, in theory, can allow for a quicker progression to the NFL.

Anonymous NFL sources might be afraid to come out and say it, but I'm not: Baker Mayfield can be a franchise quarterback.

even goes so far as to say "Baker Mayfield can be a franchise quarterback."