Also he still put himself at risk to play football after signing with the A's for nearly $20m. If it was all about the money than why not just go straight to baseball where you already have a good contract in hand instead of risking serious injury to play 1 year of college football that maybe gets you a better contract in football?
Sorry but mine is the same position as Solar7 and yes after the season the only Throwing session was at his pro day as I recall maybe someone else has more information but I dont and its one of my sticking points among many others not the least of which is the stupidity of the front office handling of the whole situation
Again why do you care so much about throwing sessions in shorts? There is plenty of material between his college games and pro day to have a very good idea of what he can do as a passer.
Uh if you look at last year it maybe just 1 bad year remember this front office has put almost everything on the table Right Now for this season
Could be and know almost all of the top prospects don't do much wasnt really picking him out so much as the process itself to me if your lucky enough to be invited ya should at least participate in the other drills such as 40 time,long jump etc. But it sure have been nice to see the throws remember he hasn't done much work with the Recievers here either yet
I'm not Delmar, so I'm not going to pretend I'm fighting his position, but I can understand not throwing at the combine, to some degree.
Sure, but he will have plenty of time throughout the off-season to develop chemistry with these guys. There is almost no upside to throwing at the combine unless people have serious questions about your passing ability and for the most part people don't question that about Murray. It seems pretty universally believed that Murray has exception footwork and throwing mechanics while having good velocity and accuracy. What would him throwing at the combine have achieved? As to running the 40, what would him running the 40 tell us that we don't already know? We can look at about 10 seconds of film to understand that he accelerates very quickly and runs very fast.
Why do you need to be impressed by him throwing to guys in shorts and T-shirts? Also a huge part of throwing in the NFL is timing routes and leading receivers. The combine is not set up for those types of throws and those are the types of throws that Kyler was very good at last year. You try doing that with receivers that you have no chemistry with and you are going to throw what looks like a bunch of bad throws.
Great. Now he’ll be declared too slow!
I need to be impressed with something more than 13 games of tape.
It's about answering questions that people have about your game. Nobody has ever questioned whether or not Murray is fast because it is obvious on film. Nobody questions Murray's arm strength, accuracy or mechanics because it is all on film and in the stats. However most QBs entering the draft have a lot of question marks regarding mechanics and scrambling ability or even arm strength. It is a chance for those guys to go out there and show that they are more athletic than people assume or have been working hard on their footwork/throwing mechanics and it shows through in their throwing sessions. Murray participating in drills doesn't answer any of these types of questions.
That is an asinine statement. What exactly are all these metrics that he fails on?
So are you under the impression that he was simply lucky all year? You can deny he shows talent. I don’t understand why there are some that think what he demonstrated last year was a fluke.
Dude, even I watch the film and question Murray's accuracy. Murray wasn't the consensus #1 talent. Read all of the information. If it weren't for Kliff's crush, he would have gone later.
I count "does not participate" as a fail. Interviewed poorly in nearly every situation given to the public to see him. Didn't participate in any drills. Fails on height. He did literally three things all offseason that most draftees must do. He showed up to get measured and weighed, meet teams, and then tossed around the football to his pals in his comfort zone.
No, not "lucky." Just "an athletic kid in the best possible situation anyone could script for a player."
So in other words he was lucky?
Sure, lucky. Not solely lucky though.
Okay. But if he succeeds you will be welcome to jump on the bandwagon....albeit way in the back.
My thinking exactly probably get some flak for this but if its good for everyone else why wouldn't it be good enough for all the top prospects
If he kills it, I will be the first to swallow my pride and say I was wrong. And then I'll buy a jersey.
Because the top prospects have less to prove at the combine. If there were major questions about his ability to do one thing or another than I would assume he would have participated more. However there aren't any real questions about his physical abilities and thus there is little to no value in actually participating. The only question people consistently have is whether or not his height will affect him at the next level, but participating in the combine does nothing to answer that.
