2023-24 Around the NBA Thread

[Hoop Head]

I wonder if Naz Reid wanted to return to the Wolves, maybe a loyalty factor in play because he wasn't drafted.

IMO, he could have received much more in free agency.

Hard to turn down $43m guaranteed. This is his first big payday. He doesn't need to relocate and is now set financially. I don't know how much he would have received in free agency but I don't think it would have been substantially more. He probably could have received a $20m a year deal at most. Any higher than that and I think he would have been moved around a fair bit as a bloated contract.

 

[Mainstreet]

Hard to turn down $43m guaranteed. This is his first big payday. He doesn't need to relocate and is now set financially. I don't know how much he would have received in free agency but I don't think it would have been substantially more. He probably could have received a $20m a year deal at most. Any higher than that and I think he would have been moved around a fair bit as a bloated contract.

Yeah, I think Reid could have received $20 million more elsewhere but good for him for getting paid.

What makes him attractive is he can shoot the 3-point shot, which gives him ad edge over some centers.

 

[Proximo]

Interesting that they have lolls of money tied up in three centers: Rudy Gobert, Towns and Naz.

Yeah, I think this is just dumb on both the Twolves and Reid's sides.

The Twolves should not have so much tied up in the Center position, and Reid should have gone somewhere else for more playing time and money.

 

[Mainstreet]

Yeah, I think this is just dumb on both the Twolves and Reid's sides.

The Twolves should not have so much tied up in the Center position, and Reid should have gone somewhere else for more playing time and money.

I don't think a team can afford to let talent walk like Reid. The Wolves can figure it out later.

Too bad there was no way to get him in a Suns uniform.

 

[Hoop Head]

Yeah, I think Reid could have received $20 million more elsewhere but good for him for getting paid.

What makes him attractive is he can shoot the 3-point shot, which gives him ad edge over some centers.

He's only 6'9", which seems a bit generous. I think he can play PF in the right system. He's not quite fast enough to stay out on the perimeter on some PF's, or players who play that position in today's NBA, but I can see him as a bigger and better version of Montrez Harrell.

Harrell is a name the Suns should consider. He didn't exactly ball out this year in Philadelphia and could be had cheap.

 

[Chaplin]

I'm confused. Naz Reid signed for 14m a year over 3 years. Tell me why a guy who averages 10 ppg over his career and 11.5 ppg in 2022/2023 deserves to be paid "$20m more" elsewhere. Especially with the new CBA kicking in next week?

 

[Mainstreet]

He's only 6'9", which seems a bit generous. I think he can play PF in the right system. He's not quite fast enough to stay out on the perimeter on some PF's, or players who play that position in today's NBA, but I can see him as a bigger and better version of Montrez Harrell.

Harrell is a name the Suns should consider. He didn't exactly ball out this year in Philadelphia and could be had cheap.

I have liked Montrezl Harrell from way back, but he has not impressed as of late. He is still a solid 4/5 and would be a nice addition for the Suns. He is not going to be shooting 3-pointers that's for sure.

The versatility of Reid is what I like, as I think he can play both positions as well. He may not be the quickest guy in the league, but he makes good use of his talent.

 

[Hoop Head]

I'm confused. Naz Reid signed for 14m a year over 3 years. Tell me why a guy who averages 10 ppg over his career and 11.5 ppg in 2022/2023 deserves to be paid "$20m more" elsewhere. Especially with the new CBA kicking in next week?

Who said he deserves $20 million more? That's a lot different than what we're all saying. He likely would have received closer to $20m a year in free agency, which is $18m more over 3 years, because teams/GM's always overpay for young bigs who play bigger than their measurements, bang inside, and have a decent shot from outside.

 

[Hoop Head]

I have liked Montrezl Harrell from way back, but he has not impressed as of late. He is still a solid 4/5 and would be a nice addition for the Suns. He is not going to be shooting 3-pointers that's for sure.

The versatility of Reid is what I like, as I think he can play both positions as well. He may not be the quickest guy in the league, but he makes good use of his talent.

Naz is like a mix of Montrez and Jae Crowder with more size, maybe the Center version of Torrey Craig. He shot 43% from 3 in the playoffs also, albeit small sample size but he's a good Sixth Man big for today's NBA.

 

[Mainstreet]

Naz is like a mix of Montrez and Jae Crowder with more size, maybe the Center version of Torrey Craig. He shot 43% from 3 in the playoffs also, albeit small sample size but he's a good Sixth Man big for today's NBA.

These are the kinds of undrafted players the Suns need to find.

 

[Chaplin]

Who said he deserves $20 million more? That's a lot different than what we're all saying. He likely would have received closer to $20m a year in free agency, which is $18m over 3 years, because teams/GM's always overpay for young bigs who play bigger than their measurements, bang inside, and have a decent shot from outside.

Mainstreet said it. I'm just glad the Suns aren't the ones overpaying him, and yes, that's what $20m a year would be.

 

[Mainstreet]

Mainstreet said it. I'm just glad the Suns aren't the ones overpaying him, and yes, that's what $20m a year would be.

I wouldn't consider 3 years, $62 million an over pay for Naz Reid but this is my opinion.

IMO, Gobert is more of an over pay.

I wouldn't be surprised to see the Wolves trade Towns.

 

[Mainstreet]

The Jazz get John Collins without giving up much in terms of assets. Danny Ainge is a magician with trades.

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[Mainstreet]

The Nets are prepared to pay Cam Johnson up to $100 million.

It appears Monty wants him with the Pistons.

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[Proximo]

The Jazz get John Collins without giving up much in terms of assets. Danny Ainge is a magician with trades.

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Damn, that is ridiculous to get a young guy that talented for a salary dump. Hawks really wanted him gone.

 

[Proximo]

The Nets are prepared to pay Cam Johnson up to $100 million.

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I almost feel sorry for Mikal taking the contract he did.

 

[Proximo]

I wouldn't consider 3 years, $62 million an over pay for Naz Reid but this is my opinion.

IMO, Gobert is more of an over pay.

I wouldn't be surprised to see the Wolves trade Towns.

Absolutely. Reid is a better more useful NBA player than Gobert.

 

[Mainstreet]

I almost feel sorry for Mikal taking the contract he did.

I think Mikal and Cam thought they had a future with the Suns. I thought the same.

 

[Chaplin]

Absolutely. Reid is a better more useful NBA player than Gobert.

Gobert is definitely an overpay, but Naz Reid at 20m per is also an overpay. And a pretty bad one at that. You can talk about hometown discount all you want, but if he could get upwards of 20m per year, why would his agent literally leave 18m lying on the table?

 

[Proximo]

I think Mikal and Cam thought they had a future with the Suns. I thought the same.

I know, but look where it got them. Mikal got underpaid, and if the Suns had paid Cam the 80 he was asking he would have been underpaid too.

 

[Proximo]

Gobert is definitely an overpay, but Naz Reid at 20m per is also an overpay. And a pretty bad one at that. You can talk about hometown discount all you want, but if he could get upwards of 20m per year, why would his agent literally leave 18m lying on the table?

He wanted to stay in Minnesota maybe.

 

[Mainstreet]

Just a thought but I think undrafted free agents are more likely to give a discount than drafted players.

They remember the team that took a chance on them.

 

[Proximo]

Naz Reid at 20million per or Ayton at 32 million. Which is the better deal? Probably Naz Reid at least if Ayton keeps playing like he has been.

 

[Mainstreet]

I know, but look where it got them. Mikal got underpaid, and if the Suns had paid Cam the 80 he was asking he would have been underpaid too.

This is the part of the business I don't like, not rewarding the players that have been loyal to the team.

 

[Chaplin]

He wanted to stay in Minnesota maybe.

Read that sentence out loud.