2023 Cardinals win-loss record prediction

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Optimistic take
It all depends on when Kyler gets back.
If he gets back in weeks 9 or 10 so he plays against our easy slate (Browns, Rams, Falcons, Texans), 5-12
Week 12 (just rams) or later 3-14
 

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Just curious, who do you all think could have the potential to be worse than the Cards and the Texans?
 

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2-15, don’t think we can count on the Texans when we can do it ourselves. Not to mention picking at the top of each subsequent round.
 

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Just curious, who do you all think could have the potential to be worse than the Cards and the Texans?
It depends on injuries...several teams are a backup QB away from not being able to compete at all, IMO. Browns, Jets, Miami, Raiders, Rams, Chargers...some of those may just end up not living up to their hype, regardless....we see it all the time. Minnesota is due for a letdown...Tennessee and Chicago are others I'd put in that category, along with the Saints. The Cardinals could end up with 5 wins and be out of the top 5 in the draft...who knows?
 

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3-14 I believe I could get some yardage against that DL. We will be playing from behind so much opposing defenses will be bringing the house.
 

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Just curious, who do you all think could have the potential to be worse than the Cards and the Texans?

In order of most likely to be worse to least likely:

Las Vegas
Tampa
Chicago
Washington
Denver
Carolina
Rams
Indy
Detroit
New England
 

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In order of most likely to be worse to least likely:

Las Vegas
Tampa
Chicago
Washington
Denver
Carolina
Rams
Indy
Detroit
New England
Every team is only one or two big injuries (especially at QB) away from being a threat to us on this list. That's why Andrew Luck ended up being a Colt.
 

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Hmmm....

This feels more like 2019 than 2020, and so logic dictates we win maybe five or six games.

More than anything it would be great if we finished strong. 2-2 or 3-1. That would let us know the team was moving in the right direction.
 

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Week 9 or 10?? LOL. Worst case scenario, game 4.
I like your enthusiasm, I just don't agree with it.

My hope is that whenever he comes back, he's not getting leveled because he misjudges how developed his knee/muscles are. With our line, he'll have opportunities to test it.

The last Cardinal star to have plus quickness that endured an ACL was Honey Badger. He was a step slow for a couple of seasons. It would be an amazing feat imo if Kyler looks even 80 percent of the way back by the final game. Week 4 is 3 1/2 months earlier than that. Oct 1st (week 4) is only 7 1/2 weeks from now.

Given his previous levels of athletic ability, it is going to be beyond obvious if he's rushing it, and imo rushing would harm him more than most players. Everything they've shown so far that I've seen has been single-direction movements and really short takes. The vast majority of vids are moving straight ahead. I haven't seen any change of direction explosiveness. I see a lot of time-altered takes that mask whatever his explosion level actually is. We really have no clue what his level of athleticism is.

All the rah-rah from coaches seem to be extremely optimistic with the language without actually stating any concrete markers. Forget playing. Even practicing. You heard Murray about two weeks ago brush off any timeline.

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Ertz tore his mcl and had a damaged acl, so they repaired it too. He's also older, but had surgery no later than Nov 17th., or ~6-7 weeks before Murray did. If he was on the Murray Week 4 timeline, that would mean ready to start at the latest, Aug 17th or Week 2 preseason. He hasn't even started practicing yet.

Maybe apples and oranges, but it is the same coaching/medical staff in the same year preparing them for return.

Also, Murray(and ertz) is on the Active PUP list. He has until the end of the preseason to come off. If he doesn't he will miss the first four weeks at minimum. Until given reason to think otherwise, he's on track to be on the PUP list to start the season. Thus even week five would be the most optimistic and imo not realistic.

New coaches. New system. New center(s). He needs some reps. I doubt he gets activated and has just that week's practice.

But none of this is the main point.

The Cardinals have $$$$ and morale motive by promoting the earliest possible date he can be back. No team in a similar situation is going to say otherwise regardless of when Murray actually comes back. The company line will always be to quote the best case and massage perception into appearing Murray is in the ballpark of achieving it. I would take any media projected date said with a grain of salt until he's activated and we actually see him running plays in practice.

In this first season, they have no reason to rush him. Everyone has a mulligan. He also gets the ability to learn the system and watch from the sideline each week. Right now they're just playing the game.
 

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Just curious, who do you all think could have the potential to be worse than the Cards and the Texans?
Raiders. Jimmy G probably isn't as good as Carr and I have no faith he lasts a full season. He barely passed physicals for training camp. Once he goes down, and he will, they have Hoyer the Destroyer waiting behind him.

That's not even mentioning their headcoach, who lost 3 games where they had a 17+ point lead last season (Including a 20 point lead against us). He also lost to the Mayfield lead Rams last season after Baker had only been on the team for 48 hours. Those types of fiascos are on the coaching staff.

The Colts are my next pick to be worse than us. Richardson is not ready to play in the NFL, he was drafted on potential alone. I doubt they will be able to fix his horrific accuracy in a single training camp, but their owner has already stated in interviews that Richardson is going to play this season. So whether the coach thinks he's ready or not, the owner will force it. If they put him out there too early I think he could be the next DeShone Kizer.
 

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Just curious, who do you all think could have the potential to be worse than the Cards and the Texans?
Indy, playing Anthony Richardson

I think the Rams and Raiders have high implosion potential

Green Bay could be really bad too

and if Justin Fields gets no better -- i see Chicago being worse
 

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Indy, playing Anthony Richardson

I think the Rams and Raiders have high implosion potential

Green Bay could be really bad too

and if Justin Fields gets no better -- i see Chicago being worse
I think Green Bay beats out the Lions to win the NFC North. Their OL is even more stacked than detroits and their defense should be nasty.
 

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