2023 Phoenix Suns Offseason

Vacard

ASFN Lifer
Joined
Nov 10, 2008
Posts
4,538
Reaction score
4,105
Location
VA
Suns a finalist for Bradley Beal? How would that work?
 

Mainstreet

Cruisin' Mainstreet
Supporting Member
Joined
Oct 19, 2003
Posts
118,290
Reaction score
58,623
Suns add South Bay Lakers head coach Miles Simon and John Lucas III to Frank Vogel's coaching staff.

xc_hide_links_from_guests_guests_error_hide_media
 

Yuma

Suns are my Kryptonite!
Joined
Jan 3, 2003
Posts
22,697
Reaction score
12,446
Location
Laveen, AZ
Suns add South Bay Lakers head coach Miles Simon and John Lucas III to Frank Vogel's coaching staff.

xc_hide_links_from_guests_guests_error_hide_media
The Phoenix Suns have reportedly added South Bay Lakers head coach Miles Simon and assistant John Lucas III to their staff, according to TNT’s Chris Haynes.

Both coaches were assistants under Phoenix’s new head coach Frank Vogel in Los Angeles with the Lakers.

Additionally, NBA insider Marc Stein reported on Monday that the Suns were “closing in” on adding Dallas Mavericks assistant Quinton Crawford to their staff as well.
 

Phrazbit

ASFN Icon
Joined
Oct 10, 2011
Posts
20,318
Reaction score
11,397
How dare they call Miles Simon a "south bay Lakers coach".

The Suns are adding Miles Simon, the consensus all-American and NCAA Tournament "Most Outstanding Player" to the staff.
 

Finito

ASFN Icon
Joined
Oct 23, 2005
Posts
21,064
Reaction score
13,837
xc_hide_links_from_guests_guests_error_hide_media

Monty Williams is extremely immature. I’ve never seen a coach not be able to separate his feelings from his job like this guy.

I know guys on this board think Booker and the players hate Ayton but it’s the opposite in reality. Same situation with Crowder not one player spoke out against him matter a fact they all said they supported him.

Bomani had said multiple times he was hearing Monty and Paul had become cancerous in this locker room. I think it’s pretty obvious at this point
 

Mainstreet

Cruisin' Mainstreet
Supporting Member
Joined
Oct 19, 2003
Posts
118,290
Reaction score
58,623
xc_hide_links_from_guests_guests_error_hide_media

Monty Williams is extremely immature. I’ve never seen a coach not be able to separate his feelings from his job like this guy.

I know guys on this board think Booker and the players hate Ayton but it’s the opposite in reality. Same situation with Crowder not one player spoke out against him matter a fact they all said they supported him.

Bomani had said multiple times he was hearing Monty and Paul had become cancerous in this locker room. I think it’s pretty obvious at this point

It would be worth giving both players another opportunity under Frank Vogel.
 

Raindog

I didn't come here to be liked!
Joined
Apr 22, 2008
Posts
5,391
Reaction score
6,814
xc_hide_links_from_guests_guests_error_hide_media

Monty Williams is extremely immature. I’ve never seen a coach not be able to separate his feelings from his job like this guy.

I know guys on this board think Booker and the players hate Ayton but it’s the opposite in reality. Same situation with Crowder not one player spoke out against him matter a fact they all said they supported him.

Bomani had said multiple times he was hearing Monty and Paul had become cancerous in this locker room. I think it’s pretty obvious at this point
I think some of us noted that Monty did seem pretty heavy handed and single-minded in his approach. I am not at all surprised he had problems with certain guys who didn't live up to his "ideals." And obviously those weren't always based on production or talent, as we saw how much he favored certain players even when they weren't productive.

A coach who can't put aside his personal feelings for the better of the team will inevitably lose the team when the players begin to notice patterns of favoritism and/or grudges against certain players regardless of performance. I can't help but wonder if this is what happened in the last couple post-seasons with the Suns.
 

95pro

ASFN Icon
Joined
May 10, 2007
Posts
12,683
Reaction score
4,161
Yep Monty had to go. Without any insight it was obvious he played his favorites no matter what. And in hindsight I see why the players quit on him, twice.

CP3 also wore out his welcome I suspect. I didn’t hear much on social media about the players saying anything about cp3 after he was traded.
 

Muggz

Hall of Famer
Joined
Jul 7, 2019
Posts
2,492
Reaction score
3,422
Location
Tent City
I remember getting dumped on when I said Monte was a problem. Seems like a great guy but his lack of ability to use a time out REALLY bugged me early in his tenure.
The favoritism for "his" guys and dislike for others. I never thought he used DA properly. I'm not saying DA isn't a soft dumpster fire but why is he guarding guards and wings?
But when Monte more or less just sat on his hands and watched us falter in the 3rd playoff in a row I was really done.
I think we are better off without him and I hope he has learned something.
 

Raindog

I didn't come here to be liked!
Joined
Apr 22, 2008
Posts
5,391
Reaction score
6,814
I remember getting dumped on when I said Monte was a problem. Seems like a great guy but his lack of ability to use a time out REALLY bugged me early in his tenure.
The favoritism for "his" guys and dislike for others. I never thought he used DA properly. I'm not saying DA isn't a soft dumpster fire but why is he guarding guards and wings?
But when Monte more or less just sat on his hands and watched us falter in the 3rd playoff in a row I was really done.
I think we are better off without him and I hope he has learned something.
Yeah, I noted some of the same issues with him early on. It was easy to overlook in that great run to the finals, but even then you could see his obstinacy hampering the team.
 

Joe Mama

Moderator
Supporting Member
Joined
May 14, 2002
Posts
9,501
Reaction score
964
Location
Gilbert, AZ
The one that still leaves me totally puzzled is Torrey Craig in the Denver series. Craig was fantastic in the first round as the fifth starter and in the second round he couldn't get in the game at all. He's one of the guys I hope they are able to bring back. Maybe with Monty out of the picture that's still a possibility?
 

Chaplin

Better off silent
Joined
May 13, 2002
Posts
46,422
Reaction score
16,941
Location
Round Rock, TX
The one that still leaves me totally puzzled is Torrey Craig in the Denver series. Craig was fantastic in the first round as the fifth starter and in the second round he couldn't get in the game at all. He's one of the guys I hope they are able to bring back. Maybe with Monty out of the picture that's still a possibility?
Craig played in games 1 & 2, but after both of those losses, Monty switched it up to TJ and Ross, and we won the next two. Wasn’t the right move in hindsight but at that moment Torrey was completely ineffective against the Nuggets.
 

Yuma

Suns are my Kryptonite!
Joined
Jan 3, 2003
Posts
22,697
Reaction score
12,446
Location
Laveen, AZ
The one that still leaves me totally puzzled is Torrey Craig in the Denver series. Craig was fantastic in the first round as the fifth starter and in the second round he couldn't get in the game at all. He's one of the guys I hope they are able to bring back. Maybe with Monty out of the picture that's still a possibility?
Supposedly Gambo says they are looking to bring back Landale, Craig, Okogie, Lee, Payne.
 
Top