2024 Draft Countdown/NFL Prospects thread

[TheCardFan]

Sanders is 2nd most sacked QB this year so far.

Caleb Williams - 3
Drake Meh - 2

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[TheCardFan]

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[RON_IN_OC]

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Reportedly, someone needs a Thesaurus.

 

[Chopper0080]

Imagine having that amount of time to throw against any NFL defense...

This. Like there wasn't any pressure to force him to leave the pocket. No one was at his feet. It was an impressive play but I just don't believe it translates to the NFL level.

 

[TheCardFan]

This. Like there wasn't any pressure to force him to leave the pocket. No one was at his feet. It was an impressive play but I just don't believe it translates to the NFL level.

Pocket mobility and big time throws down the field don't translate to the NFL.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

This is the guy I would be most excited about getting, and it's really not close.

Agree!! He’s also the hardest worker on the team.
He’s going to be a superstar!!

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Aren't all of us amateur scouts? Other than Harry of course.

I know a guy

 

[Krangodnzr]

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I watched both games and he looked like a good college QB. Need to see A LOT more to say any of these types of statements.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Pocket mobility and big time throws down the field don't translate to the NFL.

That's not what he is saying at all.

Nice STRAWMAN.

 

[TheCardFan]

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[TheCardFan]

That's not what he is saying at all.

Nice STRAWMAN.

What is the point then from two plays?

 

[TheCardFan]

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[TheCardFan]

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[TheCardFan]

QB Drake Maye Through the Eyes of a Former NFL Scout

North Carolina quarterback Drake Maye showed uncanny composure for a redshirt freshman, which left a former NFL Scout impressed.

firstroundmock.com

 

[TheCardFan]

What Nobody Wants you to Know About Shedeur Sanders

Colorado QB Shedeur Sanders is all the talk in the football world right now, but a former NFL Scout is not sold on the first-round talk.

firstroundmock.com

 

[TheCardFan]

Pocket Wrecker: UCLA Edge Laiatu Latu

UCLA edge rusher Laiatu Latu is a highly skilled and polished pass rusher on the board for the 2024 NFL Draft according to a former scout.

firstroundmock.com

 

[Krangodnzr]

What is the point then from two plays?

That's indicative of how a lot of Caleb William plays look. Wide open receivers. Very little pressure. He even leaves the pocket when he doesn't have to.

He has a great arm, is very athletic, and has a good feel for the game. But this isn't NFL conditions. He isn't going to have receivers that much better than the DBs, OL that much better than the DL. How will Caleb look in those situations? We don't know.

We know how Maye will look.

 

[TheCardFan]

That's indicative of how a lot of Caleb William plays look. Wide open receivers. Very little pressure. He even leaves the pocket when he doesn't have to.

I don't think its a fair statement.
Most people just watch the flashy plays.
He makes those kinds of plays sure...like a superstar.

He has ELITE decision making
ELITE pocket awareness and escapability
He can make all the throws and he is an excellent runner.

Example:
Utah game (playoffs). Played against a great defense.
He got injured up 17-3, was under pressure all night, and was sacked 7 times.

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[Chopper0080]

Pocket mobility and big time throws down the field don't translate to the NFL.

That isn't NFL pocket mobility.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

That isn't NFL pocket mobility.

This is where I will continue to agree with chopper... Williams breaks the pocket when he doesn't always need to break out of the pocket. My opinion he needs to show that he can stay within the pocket and play within the system that Lincoln Riley is putting in front of him. Some of the complaints that people have had about Kyler Murray with the Cardinals is what you see in Caleb Williams.

 

[Chopper0080]

I don't think its a fair statement.
Most people just watch the flashy plays.
He makes those kinds of plays sure...like a superstar.

He has ELITE decision making
ELITE pocket awareness and escapability
He can make all the throws and he is an excellent runner.

Example:
Utah game (playoffs). Played against a great defense.
He got injured up 17-3, was under pressure all night, and was sacked 7 times.

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A superstar QB at USC losing to Utah is not a flex in any way.

I question why you consider his decision making "elite"? He does have quality mobility and a great arm. No doubt. I just don't see the pocket mechanics, playing within the offensive scheme, and the great decision making.

 

[Chopper0080]

This is where I will continue to agree with chopper... Williams breaks the pocket when he doesn't always need to break out of the pocket. My opinion he needs to show that he can stay within the pocket and play within the system that Lincoln Riley is putting in front of him. Some of the complaints that people have had about Kyler Murray with the Cardinals is what you see in Caleb Williams.

And the tough part about the eval is Williams looks off the open receiver on the slant (his first read), shuffles about in the pocket, but then will make an amazing splash play. So the end result is better than the slant that was open, and it helps his team win in college, but it doesn't translate to the NFL.

 

[Chopper0080]

And to be clear, none of this is to insinuate Caleb isn't a fantastic prospect. It's just why some of us think Maye is close or even a better prospect than Caleb.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

And to be clear, none of this is to insinuate Caleb isn't a fantastic prospect. It's just why some of us think Maye is close or even a better prospect than Caleb.

I want to see Williams take the next step, by hanging in the pocket and working the route tree with his receivers.. hitting guys on post patterns, out patterns, slants.. based on timing.