2024 Draft Countdown/NFL Prospects thread

[Chopper0080]

Except it isn't crazy at all as he is the next great NFL QB.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Crazy that Maye initially was committed to Alabama.

Yeah but like all of his large family played at Carolina. Hard to pass up on family legacy.

 

[Crimson Warrior]

The funny part of that film is it was his first as a college starter. That is what impressed me the most from it. Dude was doing things Caleb still doesn't do in game 1.

Sigh. I think UNC plays Virginia this week. I'll see if I can catch it on TV and make myself watch the kid for at least a quarter.

 

[SoonerLou]

Crazy that Maye initially was committed to Alabama.

He knew he wasnt good enough to beat out Bryce Young.

At least Mac Jones had 3 years in the system ahead of Bryce. Maye knew how big the hype was around Bryce.

Safer bet to just backup Howell for a year.

Meanwhile Caleb Williams ended up taking Rattler's job who was viewed a top 10 pick heading into his JR year.

 

[Chopper0080]

He knew he wasnt good enough to beat out Bryce Young.

At least Mac Jones had 3 years in the system ahead of Bryce. Maye knew how big the hype was around Bryce.

Safer bet to just backup Howell for a year.

Meanwhile Caleb Williams ended up taking Rattler's job who was viewed a top 10 pick heading into his JR year.

Rattler lost that job more than anything

 

[Chopper0080]

Sigh. I think UNC plays Virginia this week. I'll see if I can catch it on TV and make myself watch the kid for at least a quarter.

You don't have to. Wait until the play Duke and Clemson early Nov. Duke because it may still be a ranked program and Clemson because of their roster talent.

 

[Chopper0080]

Miami was just good game because of the roster talent.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

I’m done trying to project what QBs are going to be good.
Thought CJ Stroud would be terrible and he looks the best of the bunch.

Thought Haskins would be great and he’s running across highways getting hit by trucks.

There was a kid from Arkansas years ago that I thought would be great. Not Mallet, think Allen was his last name.
He’s played but been nothing.
Thought Rivers would be a bum.

It’s all about the situation you get drafted to.

FWIW, my favorite under the radar QB is Pratt from Tulane.

 

[oaken1]

I don't think it will be.

The tricky part is remembering what Herbert was in college vs what he has developed into in the NFL. The same concept is true for Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes. Getting to the NFL is step 1. Step 2 is do you have the obsession to win at all costs? What are you willing to give up for that?

Will Maye be Herbert or Rivers or Roethlisberger? Who knows. Ben didn't put in a lot of work, but because he went to the Steelers and he was so physically gifted, he didn't have to. Will Maye go to a bad team, be really good, but still not win anything ala Herbert. Absolutely could happen.

The overall point with the Maye eval isn't that he is perfect. He makes mistakes weekly. It is that every game you see him having to play a NFL version of QB. Every week the pocket is muddy. Every week he gets hit. Every week he has to make small window throws. Every week he has to take what the defense gives him. Every week he has to slightly adjust his style of play. That is what being QB in the NFL is. That isn't the case with Caleb Williams or even Pennix for that matter.

Agree... so many dudes get to the league and think "I made it" .... but getting drafted only means they are willing to give you a chance.
Getting to the nfl should never be the main goal... just a step along the way.

 

[Krangodnzr]

He knew he wasnt good enough to beat out Bryce Young.

At least Mac Jones had 3 years in the system ahead of Bryce. Maye knew how big the hype was around Bryce.

Safer bet to just backup Howell for a year.

Meanwhile Caleb Williams ended up taking Rattler's job who was viewed a top 10 pick heading into his JR year.

He's a way better player than Young, but sure.

I think Youngs top potential is smaller, generic Drew Brees. Or high end Chase Daniel. I never got the love for his game. It's easy for a good college QB to play really well with the talent he was surrounded with.

 

[Krangodnzr]

I’m done trying to project what QBs are going to be good.
Thought CJ Stroud would be terrible and he looks the best of the bunch.

Thought Haskins would be great and he’s running across highways getting hit by trucks.

There was a kid from Arkansas years ago that I thought would be great. Not Mallet, think Allen was his last name.
He’s played but been nothing.
Thought Rivers would be a bum.

It’s all about the situation you get drafted to.

FWIW, my favorite under the radar QB is Pratt from Tulane.

I think it's mental make up and the ability to make NFL throws.

 

[SoonerLou]

He's a way better player than Young, but sure.

I think Youngs top potential is smaller, generic Drew Brees. Or high end Chase Daniel. I never got the love for his game. It's easy for a good college QB to play really well with the talent he was surrounded with.

Bama's offensive talent (2022) wasnt much better than Maye's current offensive team.

And tbh, while I was high on Jameson Williams, it seems more like Bryce Young made him the way his pro career is turning out.

 

[kerouac9]

Bama's offensive talent (2022) wasnt much better than Maye's current offensive team.

And tbh, while I was high on Jameson Williams, it seems more like Bryce Young made him the way his pro career is turning out.

A little early for this, yeah? He's played 122 snaps as a pro.

 

[Crimson Warrior]

You don't have to. Wait until the play Duke and Clemson early Nov. Duke because it may still be a ranked program and Clemson because of their roster talent.

Wait, the Duke Bluedevils are ranked in football?

What's next? Cats and dogs walking down the street, arm in arm?

Clearly, the end times are upon us.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

I think it's mental make up and the ability to make NFL throws.

Speed of processing info is key too.
Ability to make throws, aka arm strength, is near the bottom of that list.
Haskins, Kyle Boller, and Jamarcus Russell could make any throw imaginable and had rocket arms.

Then you have guys like Purdy, Goff, and to a lesser extent, Pickett that are out there putting their teams in position to win.

 

[kerouac9]

Speed of processing info is key too.
Ability to make throws, aka arm strength, is near the bottom of that list.
Haskins, Kyle Boller, and Jamarcus Russell could make any throw imaginable and had rocket arms.

Then you have guys like Purdy, Goff, and to a lesser extent, Pickett that are out there putting their teams in position to win.

This is Jared Goff slander. His arm is/was actually really good, it's just that he got super-gun-shy about putting the ball into tight windows.

 

[oaken1]

Speed of processing info is key too.
Ability to make throws, aka arm strength, is near the bottom of that list.
Haskins, Kyle Boller, and Jamarcus Russell could make any throw imaginable and had rocket arms.

Then you have guys like Purdy, Goff, and to a lesser extent, Pickett that are out there putting their teams in position to win.

Making the throw..... it's not just about arm strength.
Touch, timing, and placement all factor in.
Russell could hurl the rock 80 yards... but dude couldn't drop in a back shoulder pass over a defender at 15 yards.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

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[BritCard]

If watching Ohio and Penn today keep an eye on Denzel Burke at CB. He's an Arizona/Saguaro kid and CB3/4 in this class. I think he will be a target for us.

 

[ajcardfan]

If watching Ohio and Penn today keep an eye on Denzel Burke at CB. He's an Arizona/Saguaro kid and CB3/4 in this class. I think he will be a target for us.

I am watching it to and God, what a boring game.

 

[Metcalf Rules]

Huge day for Marvin Harrison, Jr. against top ranked defense in country.

 

[Lomax to Green 84]

JerZhan Newton is such a beast. He is just destroying Wisconsin’s offensive line.

 

[cardpa]

Huge day for Marvin Harrison, Jr. against top ranked defense in country.

For all the accolades that the PSU defense has gotten, you would have thought Diaz would have accounted for Harrison better. Instead Harrison ran all over the field and killed them with the crossing pattern over and over.

 

[Russ Smith]

Watching Houston and Texas I kind of like Tune's replacement at QB, Donovan Smith? not a first rounder but 6'5" 240 good arm, can run. Seems like a guy you could get and develop if you don't take a QB high up in the draft.

Watching college I never cease to be amazed at 2 things, how bad the refs are, and how bad coaches can be. 3rd down Houston RB clearly gets the first down on forward progress, Texas pushes him back, refs spot the ball short so down 7 they have to go on 4th down. Terrible spot. Then with a 240 pound QB who can run, instead of just lining up and pushing him over the top they go shotgun, WR in motion and roll him right throwing to the motion man. Throw is offline incomplete they lose the game. Keep it simple coach.

 

[cardpa]

Watching Houston and Texas I kind of like Tune's replacement at QB, Donovan Smith? not a first rounder but 6'5" 240 good arm, can run. Seems like a guy you could get and develop if you don't take a QB high up in the draft.

Watching college I never cease to be amazed at 2 things, how bad the refs are, and how bad coaches can be. 3rd down Houston RB clearly gets the first down on forward progress, Texas pushes him back, refs spot the ball short so down 7 they have to go on 4th down. Terrible spot. Then with a 240 pound QB who can run, instead of just lining up and pushing him over the top they go shotgun, WR in motion and roll him right throwing to the motion man. Throw is offline incomplete they lose the game. Keep it simple coach.

Similar thing in the OSU/PSU game. PSU had a 4th and one at midfield, PSU sends a player in motion and Allar (6'-5", 240 lbs. who can run) in shotgun and play goes to motion man who drops the pass.

In first half, this play happens. They call #25 for PSU for holding. What you don't see is the OSU QB gets sacked, fumbles and PSU returns it for a TD.

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