A Different Manning thread

[BigRedRage]

So, as we all know Peyton thinks he can play this year and noone expects him to stay in indy. I have widdled his options down to two teams but I want to see your opinions.

My considerations for free agent manning:
Wants a competitive team, no time for rebuilding.
Prefers a dome and better QB weather.
Needs a quality WR core.
Avoiding the NFC East to not play Eli twice-3 times a year. Prefers AFC in general.

Teams:
Dallas Cowboys - Romo love, dont see it at all.
Buffalo Bills - Could use manning, has potential but cold as hell and no roof.
New York Giants - Not a chance
Miami Dolphins - A seemingly good destination. All home games are good weather even without a dome. A lot of away games are cold rough weather but Manning is used to that. Miami is a slim chance however - I think they are going for Flynn.
Philadelphia Eagles - Not competing with Eli
New England Patriots - No chance
Washington Redskins - Seen some reporters name washington as a destination. I would buy it if the redskins had a shot at a championship any time soon. No go.
New York Jets - Jets get a lot of hype for Manning. I dont see him fitting there and dont see manning wanting to deal with the weather. They are an AFC team so they have that and both mannings in NY would be huge for them and theyr marketing $$.
Atlanta Falcons - they like their QB but I suppose they could go after Manning
Houston Texans - Shaub is solid as a starter, dont see them going for broke and benching a quality QB.
Carolina Panthers - CAM
Indianapolis Colts - May keep manning, highly doubt it.
New Orleans Saints - Breezy
Jacksonville Jaguars - Jaguars are rebuilding, not a contender for Manning
Tampa Bay Buccaneers - I feel this could be a likely destination. Great weather and more but somewhat rebuilding and unpredictable of a team.
Tennessee Titans - I could see this as a possible landing place for Manning also. Low on the list though.
Chicago Bears - Too cold and windy for Manning, good D horrid recievers.
Baltimore Ravens - Flaccos job.
Detroit Lions - Staffords Job.
Cincinnati Bengals - Daltons job.
Green Bay Packers - Nope.
Cleveland Browns - Not good enough,.
Minnesota Vikings - Very possible destination. Solid D, decent WRs, good line, great RB. Expect Minnesota to be in play big time.
Pittsburgh Steelers - Nah

Arizona Cardinals - Obviously a major target team for manning. Elite WR, Great D considering last half of season. Expecting improvement the following year. Two good RBs. Line is the only question here. Dome team with in division Dome opponents. Not AFC but good chance for success. QB friendly system.​

Denver Broncos - Also a good destination. Solid D, good line and running game. Decent reciever options. Cold stadium, AFC.
San Francisco 49ers - I see them keeping Alex smith.
Kansas City Chiefs - Stick w Cassel
Seattle Seahawks - Possible destination but open dome and cold/windy/rainy often.
Oakland Raiders - No chance
St. Louis Rams - Bradford
San Diego Chargers - Rivers

I wanted to keep going but I need to get to work.

My destination summary:
#1 Arizona and Minnesota
#2 Denver, Seattle, Tennessee, NYJ

What do you think?

 

[NuttinButTDs]

There is one team that intrigues me and has not been in the news when it comes to Manning.

The team has a RB that is considered in the top 3.
The team has defense that always keeps them in the game.
The team has a receiver we all love and an upcoming speedster.
The team's GM is well respected, known for his negotiations and evaluation. He has also thought of retiring soon.
The team's Qb has not signed yet and is on his last year.
Manning will never play Eli in playoffs

Finally, Peyton will always be associated with ""colts".



Baltimore Ravens.....

 

[BigRedRage]

For the ravens to bring in Manning, they have to give up on Flacco. Bringing manning in is saying in a nutshell, our qbs are no longer good enough. Flacco would become trade fodder and they could get something for him but I imagine Baltimore would rather keep on their 10 yr plan.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

IMO - The "real" players at end of day:

AZ, NY Jets, Seahags, Miami, Washington.

 

[BigRedRage]

IMO - The "real" players at end of day:

AZ, NY Jets, Seahags, Miami, Washington.

Why wash?

I dont see washington as a real player. This will pony up cash sure, beyond that why would Manning want to go there? This is going to be about where manning wants to go, not he who has the most money.

Dont think Minnesota is a real player?

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

IMO - The "real" players at end of day:

AZ, NY Jets, Seahags, Miami, Washington.

I think KC will be major player for him. They're in the AFC, a weak division, good running game, pretty good defense, decent OL, good WR's if they keep Bowe to go with a healthy TE Moeaki return, and GM Pioli spent years in NE watching Manning excel and can't see Matt Cassel/Kyle Orton stop him from acquiring Peyton. Of course, I haven't factored in the Tyler Palko factor yet .

 

[BigRedRage]

I think KC will be major player for him. They're in the AFC, a weak division, good running game, pretty good defense, decent OL, good WR's if they keep Bowe to go with a healthy TE Moeaki return, and GM Pioli spent years in NE watching Manning excel and can't see Matt Cassel/Kyle Orton stop him from acquiring Peyton. Of course, I haven't factored in the Tyler Palko factor yet .

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Forgot they had orton too, id say they are well stocked with young QBs...I likely would pass on manning if I were KC.

 

[PACardsFan]

IMO - The "real" players at end of day:

AZ, NY Jets, Seahags, Miami, Washington.

Washington is a definite NO! He doesn't want to have to play against Eli 2-3 times a year. I doubt if he has a lick of respect for Skins owner. That's important to Peyton.

NY Jets - He would never, never, ever play for Ryan. Way too vulgar & bombastic for Peyton's liking. Cold weather at this stage in his career is a no-no & he doesn't want to create a circus. Which is what would happen in NY with both him & Eli both there. This is a definite & emphatic NO.

Seattle - I don't see Carroll as Manning's kind of coach. Carroll is an onboxious douchebag. Manning loves softer spoken gentlemen, aka Dungy. The weather in Seattle is too unpredictable. Very much a long shot

Miami - Ownership is flat our weird & he would have to play too many cold weather road games in New England, Buffalo & New York. Too difficult a path to the playoffs.

AZ - If the Cardinals are truly interested, this would be heaven for Peyton. From a demeanor standpoint, Whiz is definitely Peyton's kind of HC & Whiz would give Peyton the same freedoms he gave to Warner. Old man Bidwill may not have been a great owner through the years, but he is a very good man. That will go a long way with the Mannings. Also, Michael adds a ton of credibility to our cause. We have a great receiving corp & it's likely Manning might bring Wayne along with him. Our OL needs improving, but just adding Peyton makes the OL 50% better. The weather is utopia, the stadium is ideal for Manning to excel in. Eli would be on the other side of the map & Peyton prefers that. No circus. I think it all comes down to whether or not Peyton will decide to play again. If he's healthy to play, AZ is the BEST spot for him.

 

[BigRedRage]

Washington is a definite NO! He doesn't want to have to play against Eli 2-3 times a year. I doubt if he has a lick of respect for Skins owner. That's important to Peyton.

NY Jets - He would never, never, ever play for Ryan. Way too vulgar & bombastic for Peyton's liking. Cold weather at this stage in his career is a no-no & he doesn't want to create a circus. Which is what would happen in NY with both him & Eli both there. This is a definite & emphatic NO.

Seattle - I don't see Carroll as Manning's kind of coach. Carroll is an onboxious douchebag. Manning loves softer spoken gentlemen, aka Dungy. The weather in Seattle is too unpredictable. Very much a long shot

Miami - Ownership is flat our weird & he would have to play too many cold weather road games in New England, Buffalo & New York. Too difficult a path to the playoffs.

AZ - If the Cardinals are truly interested, this would be heaven for Peyton. From a demeanor standpoint, Whiz is definitely Peyton's kind of HC & Whiz would give Peyton the same freedoms he gave to Warner. Old man Bidwill may not have been a great owner through the years, but he is a very good man. That will go a long way with the Mannings. Also, Michael adds a ton of credibility to our cause. We have a great receiving corp & it's likely Manning might bring Wayne along with him. Our OL needs improving, but just adding Peyton makes the OL 50% better. The weather is utopia, the stadium is ideal for Manning to excel in. Eli would be on the other side of the map & Peyton prefers that. No circus. I think it all comes down to whether or not Peyton will decide to play again. If he's healthy to play, AZ is the BEST spot for him.

thoughts on Minnesota? I share a very similar opinion as you.

 

[az jam]

Forget Minnesota:
1. The stadium is the worst in the league. Terrible turf for players.
They may move or build a new one. That is still up in the air. If they build a new one it will be finished close to when Manning's career is finishing.
2. Cold, cold winters. Doesn't get nice till May. (I lived there for 6 years and retired to Arizona for the weather and life style).
3. Team is rebuilding. Moved up in the draft to take QB Ponder last year. He replaced McNabb and played pretty good football. Also best player RB Adrian Peterson blew an ACL on his knee. Hope to have him back when the season starts.
4, Viking are worst team in tough conference. Would have to beat Packers with Rogers, Lions with Stafford and the Bears to make the playoffs. Plus who want to play games in Chicago and Green Bay in winter.

I like the Cards, Jets, Dolphins, Titans and Seahawks as best contenders for Manning. 49ers could also surprise and not resign Alex Smith.

 

[BigRedRage]

Forget Minnesota:
1. The stadium is the worst in the league. Terrible turf for players.
They may move or build a new one. That is still up in the air. If they build a new one it will be finished close to when Manning's career is finishing.
2. Cold, cold winters. Doesn't get nice till May. (I lived there for 6 years and retired to Arizona for the weather and life style).
3. Team is rebuilding. Moved up in the draft to take QB Ponder last year. He replaced McNabb and played pretty good football. Also best player RB Adrian Peterson blew an ACL on his knee. Hope to have him back when the season starts.
4, Viking are worst team in tough conference. Would have to beat Packers with Rogers, Lions with Stafford and the Bears to make the playoffs. Plus who want to play games in Chicago and Green Bay in winter.

I like the Cards, Jets, Dolphins, Titans and Seahawks as best contenders for Manning. 49ers could also surprise and not resign Alex Smith.

Good points on Minnesota.

Seems as though it is AZ #1 and if that didnt work looking at the others but none seem to be an ideal fit except maybe Miami or Tennessee

 

[Crazy Canuck]

Washington is a definite NO! He doesn't want to have to play against Eli 2-3 times a year. I doubt if he has a lick of respect for Skins owner. That's important to Peyton.

NY Jets - He would never, never, ever play for Ryan. Way too vulgar & bombastic for Peyton's liking. Cold weather at this stage in his career is a no-no & he doesn't want to create a circus. Which is what would happen in NY with both him & Eli both there. This is a definite & emphatic NO.

Seattle - I don't see Carroll as Manning's kind of coach. Carroll is an onboxious douchebag. Manning loves softer spoken gentlemen, aka Dungy. The weather in Seattle is too unpredictable. Very much a long shot

Miami - Ownership is flat our weird & he would have to play too many cold weather road games in New England, Buffalo & New York. Too difficult a path to the playoffs.

AZ - If the Cardinals are truly interested, this would be heaven for Peyton. From a demeanor standpoint, Whiz is definitely Peyton's kind of HC & Whiz would give Peyton the same freedoms he gave to Warner. Old man Bidwill may not have been a great owner through the years, but he is a very good man. That will go a long way with the Mannings. Also, Michael adds a ton of credibility to our cause. We have a great receiving corp & it's likely Manning might bring Wayne along with him. Our OL needs improving, but just adding Peyton makes the OL 50% better. The weather is utopia, the stadium is ideal for Manning to excel in. Eli would be on the other side of the map & Peyton prefers that. No circus. I think it all comes down to whether or not Peyton will decide to play again. If he's healthy to play, AZ is the BEST spot for him.

I'm in general agreement with you when the issues are fleshed out, and it's why I placed AZ as number one in my list. That said - I think those other team's will be attempting to make a case for themselves.

P.S. I'd rather that Garcon came to AZ for reasons of familiarity.

 

[thephoenixson28]

3 teams I think that he will go to:
Arizona
San Francisco
New York

The thing is 49ers would have to give up on Smith, I think it's highly unlikely though.
New York has to many problems

I think he comes to Arizona

 

[WildBB]

Manning family roots are in the south. Dad and Eli played at Ol Miss. Peyton at Tenn.

With his injury I don't See him wanting any part of cold country away schedules at this point.

That would lend itself to him being here or SF. I'd pick here. But I'm biased.

Start the season with Big Red Skelton since the team got hot with him at the helm late in the season. Then go from there.

Manning could relieve at some point. Probably sooner than later (Oct?).

 

[JeffGollin]

Manning family roots are in the south. Dad and Eli played at Ol Miss. Peyton at Tenn.

With his injury I don't See him wanting any part of cold country away schedules at this point.

That would lend itself to him being here or SF. I'd pick here. But I'm biased.

Start the season with Big Red Skelton since the team got hot with him at the helm late in the season. Then go from there.

Manning could relieve at some point. Probably sooner than later (Oct?).

All of this points to his waiting for some team (NO?) to have its QB injured and then coming in

to save the day a la Brett Favre.

 

[Chopper0080]

Most credible options...

San Fran
Seattle
Arizona
Miami

Options that I don't see happening

Tennessee has money invested in Hasselbeck, and drafted Jake Locker in the first round to be the starter.

Minnesota has a 1st invested in Ponder who they liked, and have more issues than most on offense. (poor offensive line, lack of WRs, Peterson is hurt)

Washington's coach Shannahan prefers mobile QBs due to the type of offense they run and Manning is not mobile anymore.

 

[BigRedRage]

no WR threats in SF.

 

[Chopper0080]

no WR threats in SF.

Crabtree is ok, and Vernon Davis is pretty good. They don't have a ton of holes as a team, and they have draft picks/money to bring in other WR options. Also a pretty good Rb tandem in Gore/Hunter.

 

[BigRedRage]

You have a point but I want to pretend SF is not an option. SAY NO TO MANNING IN SF!

Unless his arm is a noodle of course.

 

[Azlen]

In reading other message boards it's interesting to see what fans of other teams have speculated as to what Peyton's criteria would be. It always seems that they choose their criteria based on what would leave their favorite QB needing team near the top of the list. If he gets released and signs with another team, regardless of where it is, there are going to be some very surprised and disappointed fans somewhere else.

 

[BillsCarnage]

3 teams I think that he will go to:
Arizona
San Francisco
New York

The thing is 49ers would have to give up on Smith, I think it's highly unlikely though.
New York has to many problems

I think he comes to Arizona

I really think SF could be the dark horse when Manning becomes a FA. SF would gladly dump Smith in favor of a healthy Manning. They're on the doorstep of a SB and with that D I could see them being the favs for the next few years.

 

[az jam]

I really think SF could be the dark horse when Manning becomes a FA. SF would gladly dump Smith in favor of a healthy Manning. They're on the doorstep of a SB and with that D I could see them being the favs for the next few years.

I agree. They drafted qb Collin Kaepernick with a low 2nd round pick last year. He could be developed behind Manning. They could also go out and sign some free agent WRs as there are many good ones available. Additionally they have an excellent offensive line.

 

[kerouac9]

Washington is a definite NO! He doesn't want to have to play against Eli 2-3 times a year. I doubt if he has a lick of respect for Skins owner. That's important to Peyton.

NY Jets - He would never, never, ever play for Ryan. Way too vulgar & bombastic for Peyton's liking. Cold weather at this stage in his career is a no-no & he doesn't want to create a circus. Which is what would happen in NY with both him & Eli both there. This is a definite & emphatic NO.

Seattle - I don't see Carroll as Manning's kind of coach. Carroll is an onboxious douchebag. Manning loves softer spoken gentlemen, aka Dungy. The weather in Seattle is too unpredictable. Very much a long shot

Miami - Ownership is flat our weird & he would have to play too many cold weather road games in New England, Buffalo & New York. Too difficult a path to the playoffs.

AZ - If the Cardinals are truly interested, this would be heaven for Peyton. From a demeanor standpoint, Whiz is definitely Peyton's kind of HC & Whiz would give Peyton the same freedoms he gave to Warner. Old man Bidwill may not have been a great owner through the years, but he is a very good man. That will go a long way with the Mannings. Also, Michael adds a ton of credibility to our cause. We have a great receiving corp & it's likely Manning might bring Wayne along with him. Our OL needs improving, but just adding Peyton makes the OL 50% better. The weather is utopia, the stadium is ideal for Manning to excel in. Eli would be on the other side of the map & Peyton prefers that. No circus. I think it all comes down to whether or not Peyton will decide to play again. If he's healthy to play, AZ is the BEST spot for him.

Why wouldn't Peyton care who ownership is? As long as the checks clear. He'd have a problem playing for Enrique Inglesias but not for Bill Bidwill? Give me a break.

On the cold weather games: Buffalo, New York, New England. At most two of these games are going to be played in December, and probably only one would be played in truly inclement weather.

Miami also has the benefit of a professional and experienced coaching staff and a very good offensive line. He'd get to play against opponents with whom he's much more familiar in the AFC for 2/3rds of his schedule.

I don't get Minnesota, either. They have awful passing weapons, and their offensive line is terrible. Their coaching staff is also in real danger.

 

[Pariah]

I don't think people should be dismissing Dallas, Houston and Baltimore out of hand. Yes, they have credible starters, but they're also a Manning away from a very dominant team. If I were the owners of those teams I'd go for broke with Manning and trade off the current QB for a draft picks or picks and a promising backup.

JMHO

 

[kerouac9]

I don't think people should be dismissing Dallas, Houston and Baltimore out of hand. Yes, they have credible starters, but they're also a Manning away from a very dominant team. If I were the owners of those teams I'd go for broke with Manning and trade off the current QB for a draft picks or picks and a promising backup.

JMHO

Baltimore was a 2-seed without Peyton Manning. They were a field goal away from the Super Bowl. Why would they give up on a five-year investment for such a marginal improvement?

Houston was a 4-seed without their Pro Bowl Quarterback and their All World wide-receiver. They were a 4-seed with a rookie fifth-round pick starting 6 or 8 games for them once their backup went on IR. Houston paid Matt Schaub a $10 million option bonus last year. Why would they give up on what they already have for a marginal gain, especially when the division is sitting there for them again next year?

Neither of those teams are a quarterback away from a Super Bowl championship. They're right there, but they're blocked by Brady and Roethlisberger. Signing Manning isn't going to snap either of those other quarterbacks' Achilleses.