After Noel and Mclemore, This Is The Player That I want the Suns to Pick

[Superbone]

I thought Oliver Miller was selling cars these days?

Seymour

Ouch!

 

[Errntknght]

I have huge doubts about him and I still wish we were taking him. But you're right, he'll be long gone by the time we pick. I think we take Shabazz with an eye to pairing him with Beasley as our one-two punch. That's a combo that's hard to beat. Wiggins here we come.

Steve

I saw some comparisons in messages left on draft sites. One comparison for Shabazz was Beasley and another was Hakim Warrick... now thats outright nasty.

Burke drew comparisons to Paul and Ty Lawson, which I thought pretty far fetched particularly on the defensive end. He's well worse than Nash from what they showed on his DX video. The text in the video said 'dies on screens' - I'd never heard that expression before but, sadly, thats just what he does. Heck, he died on one screen his man didn't even use.

He does have trouble finishing at the rim in the halfcourt if contested and he'll shoot from 8 feet behind the arc with lots of time on the shot clock but he dribbles through traffic almost as well as Nash and he's accurate when he stops and pops from midrange. Beautiful hesitation dribble. Passes out well and passes inside well, too.

I would guess his shot selection is fixable - he's young and the video said he'd improved greatly from his first college year to the second. But that kind of defense would be the devil to fix.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

I saw some comparisons in messages left on draft sites. One comparison for Shabazz was Beasley and another was Hakim Warrick... now thats outright nasty.

Burke drew comparisons to Paul and Ty Lawson, which I thought pretty far fetched particularly on the defensive end. He's well worse than Nash from what they showed on his DX video. The text in the video said 'dies on screens' - I'd never heard that expression before but, sadly, thats just what he does. Heck, he died on one screen his man didn't even use.

He does have trouble finishing at the rim in the halfcourt if contested and he'll shoot from 8 feet behind the arc with lots of time on the shot clock but he dribbles through traffic almost as well as Nash and he's accurate when he stops and pops from midrange. Beautiful hesitation dribble. Passes out well and passes inside well, too.

I would guess his shot selection is fixable - he's young and the video said he'd improved greatly from his first college year to the second. But that kind of defense would be the devil to fix.

I honestly think a couple years from now we will look back at this draft and Burke will be the best player to come out of this draft. Sure he has some flaws, but I think he has the best basketball instincts and will likely be one of the more natural scorers in this draft. Couple that with his ability distribute the ball and I think it is very likely he will have the most success.

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[JCSunsfan]

I honestly think a couple years from now we will look back at this draft and Burke will be the best player to come out of this draft. Sure he has some flaws, but I think he has the best basketball instincts and will likely be one of the more natural scorers in this draft. Couple that with his ability distribute the ball and I think it is very likely he will have the most success.

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I was thinking the same thing. . .about CJ.

 

[Russ Smith]

I saw some comparisons in messages left on draft sites. One comparison for Shabazz was Beasley and another was Hakim Warrick... now thats outright nasty.

Burke drew comparisons to Paul and Ty Lawson, which I thought pretty far fetched particularly on the defensive end. He's well worse than Nash from what they showed on his DX video. The text in the video said 'dies on screens' - I'd never heard that expression before but, sadly, thats just what he does. Heck, he died on one screen his man didn't even use.

He does have trouble finishing at the rim in the halfcourt if contested and he'll shoot from 8 feet behind the arc with lots of time on the shot clock but he dribbles through traffic almost as well as Nash and he's accurate when he stops and pops from midrange. Beautiful hesitation dribble. Passes out well and passes inside well, too.

I would guess his shot selection is fixable - he's young and the video said he'd improved greatly from his first college year to the second. But that kind of defense would be the devil to fix.

I can see Beasley he's left handed and very clever around the paint. Has an unguardable half hook that he makes remarkably consistently. the first time you see Bazz take that you think what the hell is that, after about the 5th time he makes it you realize for him it's a good shot.

But he's smaller than Beasley, much better behaved, but he does have the same me first mentality.

I hope he pans out but I think sliding a bit to a team that doesn't need him to start would actually be what's best for him. I would say being on a team with lots of veterans to counsel him on being a team player would be beneficial but I'm not sure it would. NBA guys are often more interested in finishing out their own career than helping a kid out so if they see a kid who's shooting too much and not playing defense they may just ostracize the kid not try and tell him "you can't play that way."

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

I was thinking the same thing. . .about CJ.

I have a strong feeling that CJ will be the best scorer, I think Burke will be the best all around player.

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[Errntknght]

If either Burke or CJ doesn't learn to defend a little it will be a telling condemnation of this years draft if one of them is the best all around player to emerge from it. I think there's a good chance that Burke could be the best offensive player in this draft but I don't he'll play a ton unless he lands on a team with great defense in the paint.

 

[jagu]

Noel being a bust is pretty unlikely unless injuries take him out.

Why do you think so? He has no offensive game and they could just use hack a Noel. His body doesn't look like it could hold up against bigger big men either. I think he's a pretty risky pick even without considering his injury.

 

[slinslin]

Advanced stat analysis put him in pretty exceptional company with other players that have become stars.
Plus exceptional athletic ability and hand-eye coordination has rarely ever busted.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Why do you think so? He has no offensive game and they could just use hack a Noel. His body doesn't look like it could hold up against bigger big men either. I think he's a pretty risky pick even without considering his injury.

I think he's a risky pick but not because he will bust. I just don't see that happening unless injuries take their toll. He's a risky pick IMO because he might not have much value until the end of his first contract or even later. I'd still take him if I were drafting first but I wouldn't be overly thrilled about it and if I got fair value for the pick, I'd trade into a future draft.

Steve