Alan Williams

[JCSunsfan]

To most of us, Alan Williams was signed as the consummate cheerleader--a solid nba bench player who will not demand playing time but won't be a total waste when on the floor. The problem is that whenever he plays, he puts up significant numbers, consistently. The team also plays better when he is on the floor. The stats bear it out. At what point do we pause, take a moment, and ask ourselves if we have something more here than we imagined?

His stats are a bit shocking. Per 36 is misleading at times, but it is all we have to go on. His per 36 numbers right now are 19.2 pts, 18 rebs, 3.7 blocks, 2.5 stls on 72% fg shooting. Add to that an Ortg of 130 and a Drtg of 99. The sample size is small (58 total minutes this year) but the numbers are downright amazing.

On the negative side, he not only plays below the rim, he plays way below the rim. He is not very fast. His footwork looks really awkward. When he has a good game, it looks almost accidental. But the numbers just pile up. I am not sure what to think.

 

[StreetTruckinTitan]

To most of us, Alan Williams was signed as the consummate cheerleader--a solid nba bench player who will not demand playing time but won't be a total waste when on the floor. The problem is that whenever he plays, he puts up significant numbers, consistently. The team also plays better when he is on the floor. The stats bear it out. At what point do we pause, take a moment, and ask ourselves if we have something more here than we imagined.

His stats are a bit shocking. Per 36 is misleading at times, but it is all we have to go on. His per 36 numbers right now are 19.2 pts, 18 rebs, 3.7 blocks, 2.5 stls on 72% fg shooting. Add to that an Ortg of 130 and a Drtg of 99. The sample size is small (58 total minutes this year) but the numbers are downright amazing.

I cant wait until he plays along side a real NBA center. Williams and Chandler should be a rebounding force to reckon with together.

 

[Phrazbit]

Yeah, hopefully he starts getting serious playing time. I don't want to take away from Criss and Bender (what little he has gotten) but with Chandler out and Len being Len, I hope Williams starts eating into the front court minutes we've been wasting on Dudley and Tucker.

 

[Errntknght]

I was boosting Williams for more PT the last part of last season because of his huge rebounding rate - it was even higher then but his scoring was lower as were steals and blocks (but still good). He had the only positive +- on the team, too. This year the only three guys with positive +- are Ulis, Williams, and Bender at +14, +11, and +8 per 48 minutes. Great numbers, but not greatly significant of course - but it does suggest they bear a good look.

 

[leclerc]

Ship out Tucker and Knight for peanuts that we can waive, or someone Earl has the guts to bench, and give more PT to Ulis, Williams and Bender. Stop giving major minutes to them, Duds and Barbosa. Those three are ready for increased playing time.

Do you propose to start A1 instead of Chriss?

 

[JCSunsfan]

Well, the policy should be "the best player should play" not "the highest pick should play." In the Suns particular circumstance that should probably be amended to be "the best young player should play" or "the player with clearly the highest potential should play first."

 

[Mainstreet]

I was laboring under the impression Alan Williams had a short wingspan which could limit his ability around the basket but that does not appear to be the case.

See link below.

I like his game but if he were more explosive, he would be even harder to deal with. I like having him on the Suns 12 man roster as he is contributes when called upon. This bolsters the Suns front-line. Also he is young enough where he can still get better.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Alan-Williams-42069/stats/

 

[JCSunsfan]

I was laboring under the impression Alan Williams had a short wingspan which could limit his ability around the basket but that does not appear to be the case.

See link below.

I like his game but if he were more explosive, he would be even harder to deal with. I like having him on the Suns 12 man roster as he is contributes when called upon. This bolsters the Suns front-line. Also he is young enough where he can still get better.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Alan-Williams-42069/stats/

His wingspan is OK. He needs to work on his body a little. He has bulk, but I think he might benefit from leaning out just a little.

Watch this and look at his footwork. Just looks awkward. Odd thing. I guess I would choose ugly results over beautiful failure.

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[devilalum]

At this point I'm finding it hard to get excited about any of the Suns players.
Lots of mediocre players have put up nice stats for bad teams. That doesn't make them good players. I don't feel qualified enough to tell the difference anymore.

 

[Mainstreet]

His wingspan is OK. He needs to work on his body a little. He has bulk, but I think he might benefit from leaning out just a little.

Watch this and look at his footwork. Just looks awkward. Odd thing. I guess I would choose ugly results over beautiful failure.

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I had low expectations for Alan Williams since last season but he has played much better than I expected where I now think he can be a contributor. He might benefit by toning out if he gets the playing time. His footwork may not be everything I want it but he has a knack for getting in the right position to rebound and score. I think everything we get from Williams is gravy. I'm rooting for him to get better but he is good depth right now.

 

[overseascardfan]

He is a feel good story on this team, local kid, small school college star, mom is the new PHX police chief. I honestly don't know how this kid did not end up at ASU, he was a beast as UC Santa Barbara. He's the type of player the athletic, finesse players hate to go against because they don't want to bang with him.

 

[Chaplin]

Alan Williams and Tyler Ulis were sent to the D-League today.

 

[elindholm]

Alan Williams and Tyler Ulis were sent to the D-League today.

Crap! I had added Williams to my hapless fantasy team because his per-minute production was good.

 

[Errntknght]

I imagine it's a good thing... better than them playing so little here. Heck, it may mean that Watson wants to give Derrick Jones some PT fragments and it would be nice to see what we have in him.

 

[Bada0Bing]

Crap! I had added Williams to my hapless fantasy team because his per-minute production was good.

That must be the deepest fantasy league in the history of mankind.

 

[JCSunsfan]

14/13/3 vs the Thunder

I keep waiting for the let down with this guy, but he just keeps producing. I would say that he has to be a FA priority over Len right now.

He just has a knack for scoring down low--reminds me of Zach Randolph a little bit in that way. He also has a natural nose for rebounds. His D is sub par otherwise. But the fact that he is a low post threat is opening up things for everyone else. Sauce needs to work on his body some. He needs to drop some body fat and add muscle.

I am a bit frustrated. Len is so long. The Suns history of undersized centers makes me really wish Len would step up. I hate the fact that a 6-8 guy, even though he is playing really well, is our best backup center.

Right now Williams is playing better than Len or Chriss.

 

[hsandhu]

I'm confused, is he a restricted or unrestrecited, hoopshype has unrestrcited but McDonough said rfa.

It's amazing, jeremy lin like post all star break, has gone from the nba s greatest cheerleader to earning a pretty nice contract.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Right now Williams is playing better than Len or Chriss.

He's playing better than Len or Chriss or Dudley or even Chandler. He's been our best big man by far IMO and I certainly never saw that coming. If it weren't for foul problems, I'd start wondering if we could get by with as the starter. I'm not saying he's Draymond but would it really be any more unusual than what the Warriors do?

 

[pokerface]

I keep wanting to say "Williams is so good for his size" but that's a put down because Alan is flat out good period! He knows how to play and I need to re-trane my brain to get off the size thing or we could miss out like we did on Isaiah Thomas. Besides, Williams will always help the team because of his versatility...He plays bigger than his size and is a stat stuffer. He can start...Play backup...Play different positions...etc etc.

Plus we have the inside track on Alan because he has family out here. Is this too good to be true??

 

[overseascardfan]

Sometimes strength, heart and motor trump athleticism and potential. He's the type of PF I've been hoping PHX would have (a PF who can actually rebound) since Amare left but Amare was considered more of a C.

 

[pokerface]

Sometimes strength, heart and motor trump athleticism and potential. He's the type of PF I've been hoping PHX would have (a PF who can actually rebound) since Amare left but Amare was considered more of a C.

I was thinking Williams is more of a Barkley rebounder type. Barkley was undersized but had a nose for the ball and DESIRE to get the rebound. Williams is actually taller than Barkley with just as much desire!

Yeah Williams is more than good enough to start at PF on the suns right now. Like someone said... Start Chandler and Williams together and lets see what they do.

 

[Ronin]

Ben Wallace did okay being a 6'8 center for the Pistons.

 

[pokerface]

Ben Wallace did okay being a 6'8 center for the Pistons.

Good point!

 

[JCSunsfan]

He's playing better than Len or Chriss or Dudley or even Chandler. He's been our best big man by far IMO and I certainly never saw that coming. If it weren't for foul problems, I'd start wondering if we could get by with as the starter. I'm not saying he's Draymond but would it really be any more unusual than what the Warriors do?

I keep thinking Draymond, but I hesitate to say it. Of course, its a similar story, at least so far. But Williams has nothing close to similar athleticism.

 

[AzStevenCal]

I keep thinking Draymond, but I hesitate to say it. Of course, its a similar story, at least so far. But Williams has nothing close to similar athleticism.

Oh yeah, they aren't close to being the same player. I just think Williams can impact the game in a non-traditional manner much like Green does. It's a fantasy to think he could ever have that level of impact but until Draymond and the Warriors made it work, it was pure fantasy there too.