All you Levi Brown defenders still believe he doesn't suck?

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Is Levi Brown "good" compared to the rest of the NFL ?

Good question. Still trying to get to the bottom of that.

We were going to compare him to Trent Williams but ran out of time during the dog days of the football season.

Not fair. I did my comparison on your very own Trent Williams thread, and no one got back on it.
 

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His agent said Levi had offers at the time, but insisted he work out a deal with the Cards.

and my agent told me he's going to attach Will Ferrel to my next project. Believing ANYTHING ANY agent says until you see a name on the dotted line means one thing and one thing only...nothing.

Did Brown even visit any other team?
 

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I think we need to get Levi to change his name. Levi is not a good name for a LT. Here are a few suggestions.

Tiger Brown
Hoss Brown
Dirty Brown
Jumbo Brown
Dirk Brown
Conrad Brown

These are much better names for a LT.
Lomas Brown
Bad Boy LeRoy Brown
Downtown Julie Brown
 

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and my agent told me he's going to attach Will Ferrel to my next project. Believing ANYTHING ANY agent says until you see a name on the dotted line means one thing and one thing only...nothing.

Did Brown even visit any other team?

Feel free to call him and Levi, who also said there were approaches, liars. I'm just reporting what was on the public record.
 

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Feel free to call him and Levi, who also said there were approaches, liars.

uh...I'm pretty sure i already did.

I'm just reporting what was on the public record.

so, you're just one to believe anything you read on the internet, huh? ok. did you ever see ANY public record of any of those teams bringing him in for a visit?
 

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uh...I'm pretty sure i already did.



so, you're just one to believe anything you read on the internet, huh? ok. did you ever see ANY public record of any of those teams bringing him in for a visit?

Listen 'smart ass' - I simply related what they said. Do with what you will, but you have nothing to go on beyond the fact that agents in your own industry have treated you like a chump.
 
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Listen 'smart ass' - I simply related what they said. Do with what you will, but you have nothing to go on beyond the fact that agents in your own industry have treated you like s chump.
that is totally hilarious!
 

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“Overall, pass protection has not been a problem, until the other night,” Arians said. “We didn’t game-plan Dwight Freeney as much as we would have and Dwight beat Levi. It comes down to a one-on-one game. If we feel that way going into a game (that the tackle might get beat), we’ll help the guy.”

http://blog.azcardinals.com/2013/08/27/levi-will-stay-outside/

Levi had a good game against Matthews, decent game against Ware and a bad game against Freeney.

What was encouraging was the run game and most of us believe Levi is very good with his run blocking. If we are using 2 & 3 TE sets a lot then that will help Levi.

Bottom line is he is not a top notch LT and it would be nice for the Cards to get one at some point.
 

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Listen 'smart ass' - I simply related what they said. Do with what you will, but you have nothing to go on beyond the fact that agents in your own industry have treated you like a chump.

wow...so, first I'm a smart ass and now I've been treated like a chump? When did we decide to get personal here? Agents jobs are to a) get their clients work and b) make their clients feel good. My agent does a pretty good job of both, but I'm not naive enough to think that they don't blow a lot of smoke...to everyone.

And I have nothing to go on? I have the fact that he never visited with ONE other team besides the Cardinals and you have agent speak. Care to actually respond to that part of the FOOTBALL CONVERSATION or would you just like to continue calling me names and talk about my career?
 
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wow...so, first I'm a smart ass and now I've been treated like a chump? When did we decide to get personal here? Agents jobs are to a) get their clients work and b) make their clients feel good. My agent does a pretty good job of both, but I'm not naive enough to think that they don't blow a lot of smoke...to everyone.

And I have nothing to go on? I have the fact that he never visited with ONE other team besides the Cardinals and you have agent speak. Care to actually respond to that part of the FOOTBALL CONVERSATION or would you just like to continue calling me names and talk about my career?

Saying, I must be some doofus who believes anything on the internet is not condescending and personal?

Levi didn't, according to him, because he instructed his agent to sit down with the Cards and cut a deal.
 

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Saying, I must be some doofus who believes anything on the internet is not condescending and personal?

you're right. that was worded a step too far. I guess I just don't understand people who take the word of an agent as proof positive of anything...while ignoring the simple fact that his agent didn't land him one meeting anywhere else.

Levi didn't, according to him, because he instructed his agent to sit down with the Cards and cut a deal.

oops...almost did it again. this reads like someone (Levi) saving face to me, but that's just me.
 

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What was encouraging was the run game and most of us believe Levi is very good with his run blocking. If we are using 2 & 3 TE sets a lot then that will help Levi.

Bottom line is he is not a top notch LT and it would be nice for the Cards to get one at some point.

Just wanted to address the running game that you mentioned. Our offense was so vanilla that game and we ran Mendy between the RG and RT almost exclusively. I have to believe that in a real game we'd run at Freeney a lot to make him hesitate on his rush. Same goes for the other edge rushers we'll face. Levi needs to get his pads into dudes in the run game to soften their speed rush. Even if it only makes them hesitate a split second that's improvement.

(Should add: obviously we ran behind the right side of our line because Coop can pull all the way across the line and work the 2nd level to the right side. But without Coop, we really need to be pounding behind Levi in my opinion when we run. To me, that's giving more help than just adding a chipping back or TE help)
 
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eh...I could care less. after shoveling and swallowing ish for a loooooooooooong time in my biz, I'm happy to finally have gotten to the point in my career where I actually have people finally blowing some smoke up my ass and make me feel good about myself! 'tis the game out in Hell A.
 

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You care or you wouldn't have responded to him in kind. He referenced your profession because you do. I'm not excusing it, I'm just stating a fact. If I tell someone my wife thinks they're an idiot, they're going to reference my wife. That's just the way it works.
 

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Well, we certainly know that everything you post is an original thought and personally investigated with two supporting affidavits.

Cheese and I have had our point - counter point and your snot isn't needed.
 
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Not fair. I did my comparison on your very own Trent Williams thread, and no one got back on it.

Sorry.

I checked a few times and didn't see it. My bad. I just thought you never had time to do it.

Well I am going to go find it now

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You care or you wouldn't have responded to him in kind. He referenced your profession because you do. I'm not excusing it, I'm just stating a fact.

sure, it rubbed me the wrong way, but my response was to K9 calling for a ban, which I didn't care about. the guy wanted to throw some dirt on me, way it goes.

but i referenced my dealing with agents because it's germane to the issue at hand, thus tried to add something to conversation based on first hand knowledge of the world, where I'm guessing most people here don't. if he wanted to share a similar experience fine...but really don't see where he needed to slam me and call me a chump.
 
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