Amare misses another practice

[ActingWild]

Son of a...after the way the Cards are playing, I'm starting to think my teams are just cursed.

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns/articles/1005suns.html

Stoudemire shut down again
Big man feeling knee pain, misses practice

Paul Coro
The Arizona Republic
Oct. 5 2006


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Amaré Stoudemire’s comeback continued to hit roadblocks here today. Stoudemire did not practice because of lingering knee trouble, this time involving both knees.

He said there was again stiffness in his right knee that now has begun to affect his left knee, which was surgically repaired through a microfracture procedure almost a year ago.

Stoudemire feels he is overcompensating for the tenderness in the right knee and thus putting more strain on the left knee.

“I’m feeling a little pain and it starts from the point of the (right) kneecap,” Stoudemire said, “and it’s still stiff. And it’s carrying over to the left.”

The Suns have an exhibition game on Friday against an Italian pro team.

 

[CardNots]

Yeah, and I'm starting to feel a little pain in my ass...

 

[Gaddabout]

He'll return in 4 mos. He's young and those other microfracture surgeries that ruined the player's career are way more serious than this one. The defect is very small, about the size of a dime.

Oh wait. That was last year. Where are his doctors now?

 

[Cheesebeef]

it's like night and day with every article - I'm not expecting much from Amare this year - I just hope he doesn't end up a distratcion to the team - with the whole will he or won't he playing out all season.

 

[Ballamania]

i'm with you on that cheesey. i actually dont even want to hear anything else about whats going on with him. it sucks because i would love to have him at even 85% but to go through the yo-yo days is frustrating. we can do it without him but they got to make sure it doesnt mess with chemistry.

 

[Chaplin]

You've got to be kidding me.

He hasn't played for a while--some stiffness and soreness is naturally going to happen. Seems to me he is starting to become a primadonna and is starting to buy into his own hype. So much for the coaches pushing him.

For the record, I'm a little worried now, but moreso I'm angry. This isn't some 40 year old player with a bad back. And I'm not really liking Coro's reporting during training camp. You just know his next one is going to be saying that it was a false alarm and Amare was back the next day practicing full bore.

 

[Ballamania]

thats why i actually dont want to hear ANY reports. just report about the people who are really playing and practicing. they should only say something if he 100% healthy and he is going to play period.

 

[Louis]

Good thing the Suns addressed the backup big spot with the signings of Piat..oh wait Mark...no.

Hmm.

Melvin Ely is still available, isn't he?

Biggest mistake in Suns history is sending Amare out to play knowing he had fluid on his right knee last year.

Each story like this is such a downer especially with the hindsight to look back at the previous sentence I just wrote and know that outcome.

It's been about a year since the first knee operation. About 6 months since the other.

If he's able to begin the season, hopefully he comes off the bench for 20-25 max play and as the season progresses into March start working him into the starting lineup with more minutes so the team will be ready come playoff time.

 

[Covert Rain]

This seals it for me. There is no way the Suns OR THE FANS can depend on Amare this year. The season has not even started yet. It's back and forth. The team is fustrated with Amare by all accounts. Amare is fustrated with his knees.

I still think it's Amare not being mentally tuff here but who knows. If it is physical then just shut him down, say he will be back at the All-Star break and be done with it for now.

 

[Chaplin]

Biggest mistake in Suns history is sending Amare out to play knowing he had fluid on his right knee last year.

Where did that assessment come from? Just curious.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I just think it's really weird that the 2nd surgery - you know, the one that was looked at as "no big deal"/routine clean out surgery has had Amare sidelined for what amounts to an entire NBA season - 6 months is a long time to stillbe hurting from just a scope. It doesn't portend well for the future with this kid's knees IMO.

 

[Mainstreet]

I was really hoping that Melvin Ely would sign with the Suns (as rumored) to provide frontline depth. I'm not saying Ely was the answer, but he would have helped me forget about the everyday distraction of Amare's health. Too bad he didn't as I think Ely could have contributed to this team.

I just don't think I can take another year of the emotional rollercoaster of Amare's ups and downs. Perhaps if Amare's health issues are not resolved soon, he would be better off not being with the team or whatever. I guess this is a medical decision first and a team decision second. Unfortunately, my theory that Amare's knees may be like two tires wearing out at the same time is gaining traction. However, Amare is so young for this to happen. Maybe there is some degenerative or genetic issue at work here. I'm just frustrated and worried.

The doctors should know. But could another scope be forthcoming for the right knee... then the left knee... then the right knee... then the... ?

 

[Louis]

Where did that assessment come from? Just curious.

Big hurdle for Amaré is mental
Opinions of outsiders complicate decision

Paul Coro
The Arizona Republic
Mar. 14, 2006 12:00 AM
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SEATTLE - Sometimes, it's all in what day you catch Amaré Stoudemire.

Stoudemire hit a low Sunday because of continued swelling in his right knee - not the knee that underwent surgery 5 1/2 months ago. He gave a comeback this season only a 50-50 chance.
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Suns notebook: Stoudemire’s other knee causing problems By Jerry Brown, TribuneMarch 6, 2006DALLAS - Amaré Stoudemire has a knee problem. No, the other knee. After a very strenuous workout on Thursday in Phoenix. Stoudemire has a fluid buildup in his right knee, likely from favoring it in workouts while shying away from pressuring his surgically repaired left knee.

He played on March 23, 25, and 27




Although it was known he was having left knee troubles during the series versus the Mavs in the 2005 playoffs. And the Suns knew he was having knee pains prior to signing him, but waiting to have his knee checked until after the ink was dry.

This time they knew weeks prior to him playing that he was having troubles with the other knee and it was being passed around like it is now..

Stoudemire feels he is overcompensating for the tenderness in the right knee and thus putting more strain on the left knee.

Same thing was said last time. His right knee is filling up with fluid because he's scared to use his left knee.

It's just my opinion that the Suns made a huge mistake sending him out there with two hurt knees.

Especially knowing Colangelo sort of talked Amare over the "returning hump" and then a few months later when Amare pulls out of Team USA participation, Colangelo comes out and admits that Amare isn't ready and that he likely wouldn't be 100% in October.

 

[msdundee]

thats why i actually dont want to hear ANY reports. just report about the people who are really playing and practicing. they should only say something if he 100% healthy and he is going to play period.

I'm beginning to agree although I'm absolutely sure that's the first question asked in ANY interview with anyone in the organization.

Regardless of cause and effect, what messed up the first knee and what messed up the second, whether Amare's current problems are physical or mental or a combination of both, the situation is what it is. Much as I'd like to see him on the court, at this point in time it might not be much of a contribution and could distort the big picture. If things don't improve greatly by the start of the season it's likely they'll bring him off the bench for short minutes and just see how it goes. The Suns are still a contender, with or without.

 

[Cheesebeef]

The Suns are still a contender, with or without.

without him, I don't think we have a realistic shot of winning the title. Do we have an outside shot? Yeah, but I think it's very outside for the following reasons - One, our "depth" is very small, especially up front and two, this team without Amare can not beat both the Spurs and the Mavs and will likely have to do so with the playoff seedings being changed to the way it should be.

it would be really nice to get some good news about Diaw getting signed to an extensions right now. We can't let our only good young big get away from this team.

 

[Nash]

he needs a third leg because the 2 he has are shot.

Pau Gasol for Amare sounds like an awesome trade offer now. The difference in level of dominance would've been bridged by the fact that atleast Pau doesn't have a chronic knee injury to keep worrying about.

 

[Mainstreet]

without him, I don't think we have a realistic shot of winning the title. Do we have an outside shot? Yeah, but I think it's very outside for the following reasons - One, our "depth" is very small, especially up front and two, this team without Amare can not beat both the Spurs and the Mavs and will likely have to do so with the playoff seedings being changed to the way it should be.

it would be really nice to get some good news about Diaw getting signed to an extensions right now. We can't let our only good young big get away from this team.

Agree all the way around.

If the Suns could have signed Ely it would given Phoenix a better chance though. I guess there is always the chance the Suns might consider a trade for another center if things don't improve. I'm not counting on Amare this season because I'm trying to preserve my sanity.

The Suns extending Diaw is a must as you said. If the Suns don't extend him now, it will be a critical mistake.

 

[hsandhu]

Anyone remember the bad ankle injury he had in 2003 against boston. He was out for a while, came back, then went out again. There were questions/articles about his ability to deal with injuries/pain and people stating he needed to comeback.

Just thought I'd point that out, as it seems to apply here. It seems he needs to learn to play with pain.

Kidd/Randolph's surgeries were worse (the effected area was bigger) and they were both back in 6 months. Now after they came back they talked about the pain they were in, and how it would take a while before they were completely healthy. But they still came back and played with the pain. Amare hasn't, and more so is so mentally screwed up he's messing up his other knee (or thinks he is).

I wouldn't say this, expect for the fact that D'Antoni is saying the exact same thing, except being much more diplomatic.

 

[msdundee]

"The Suns extending Diaw is a must as you said. If the Suns don't extend him now, it will be a critical mistake."

Given the status quo, let's all hope Sarver feels the same. Diaw's agent must be feeling good right about now.

 

[carey]

If Amare is truly done, and I'm not saying he is, but if he is, the Suns are going to be financially handicapped for a long time. We can't have Diaw, Marion, and Amare's contract on the books at the same time for more than 1 season or so regardless, but we're totally screwed if Amare can't play.

 

[green machine]

Bank and forth we go with this. Until the season starts and he's not playing, I'm gonna just take each bit of news in stride. It seems like since all of us are hanging onto every bit of news, the rollor coaster is just crazy. As far as I'm concerned, if he's good to go around, say, January, that will be enough for me.

 

[Treesquid PhD]

that's too bad, but I expect ups and downs.

 

[JS22]

Pau Gasol for Amare sounds like an awesome trade offer now. The difference in level of dominance would've been bridged by the fact that atleast Pau doesn't have a chronic knee injury to keep worrying about.

I keep saying the same thing.

D'antoni admitted to rejecting a Gasol and a #1 for Amare trade right before the draft. Looking back, they should have pulled the trigger. But how were they supposed to know that it would end up being such a roller coaster?

 

[JS22]

"The Suns extending Diaw is a must as you said. If the Suns don't extend him now, it will be a critical mistake."

Given the status quo, let's all hope Sarver feels the same. Diaw's agent must be feeling good right about now.

Diaw turned down an 8.75 million dollar a year offer. Gambo reported it a few days ago.

Diaw is a good (not great) player who has had one decent season. He is not worth the $10,000,000 a year that he expects to receive.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Diaw turned down an 8.75 million dollar a year offer. Gambo reported it a few days ago.

Diaw is a good (not great) player who has had one decent season. He is not worth the $10,000,000 a year that he expects to receive.

in Today's NBA you're wrong.

eventaully you have to pay young players - give him 10 and call it a day. We all saw what the kid could do if the offense is run through him - think about it - it was his FIRST EVER TIME IN THE PLAYOFFS and he averaged 18, 6 and 5 - that's pretty damn impressive... and all this with a spotty jumper. The kid is a slightly shorter version of Danny Manning, who was an all-star when healthy. Pay him the damn money.