Amare misses another practice

[Arizona's Finest]

I hate to say it but i have just grown completly apathetic to any news about Amare whatsoever....what a joke.

Boris Diaw - I hope you're what i think you are.......

 

[pokerface]

I hate to say it but i have just grown completly apathetic to any news about Amare whatsoever....what a joke.

Boris Diaw - I hope you're what i think you are.......

Its a good way to be. Keeps you from getting hurt and strung along.

Seeing is believing...everything else is just talk.

 

[Chaplin]

Its a good way to be. Keeps you from getting hurt and strung along.

Seeing is believing...everything else is just talk.

You must be one of those lower bowl fans NEZ keeps harping about.

 

[Chaplin]

Chaplin...get your gang together. You're going to need it...as usual.



ps...You should be the last one talking about being an ass.

This is my last post to you before you go on ignore, but you just don't get it. Everyone is worried about Amare, but there is no lying (which means intent to deceive). You keep going on and on about it, but you have no legs to stand on.

And I know you'll just come back with the same tired rhetoric, but honestly, you need to grow up. We know what you think, there is no need to continue coming onto this board and talking down to people like you are the supreme authority on ANY of this. Done.

 

[sly fly]

Its a good way to be. Keeps you from getting hurt and strung along.

Seeing is believing...everything else is just talk.

What's with the tough guy stance?

Why should the PHX organization be blamed for Amare having bad knees?

You think there's some kind of conspiracy going on?

Chalk it up to tough luck right now. You think anybody is happy about this?

From the looks of it, the entire team is ready to move with or without Amare. Sounds like the team has developed some intestinal fortitude over the whole situation.

Pokerface, you need to relax. Enjoy this team while you can.

 

[elindholm]

This is my last post to you before you go on ignore

It doesn't help if people keep quoting his posts in full. It's been the same stuff for months now. We've all presented the facts until we're blue in the fingers, and he just refutes all of them with his grand conspiracy theories. You'd have as much luck trying to convince him that man has really walked on the moon or Elvis is really dead.

I've tried to give up, but it's difficult when each of his posts is broadcast multiple times.

 

[pokerface]

This is my last post to you before you go on ignore, but you just don't get it. Everyone is worried about Amare, but there is no lying (which means intent to deceive). You keep going on and on about it, but you have no legs to stand on.

And I know you'll just come back with the same tired rhetoric, but honestly, you need to grow up. We know what you think, there is no need to continue coming onto this board and talking down to people like you are the supreme authority on ANY of this. Done.

Chaplin are you really done or just elindholm kind of done?

 

[pokerface]

What's with the tough guy stance?

Why should the PHX organization be blamed for Amare having bad knees?

You think there's some kind of conspiracy going on?

.

You dont think the Suns bringing Amare back in 5 months had any bearing on anything??

 

[pokerface]

It doesn't help if people keep quoting his posts in full. It's been the same stuff for months now. We've all presented the facts until we're blue in the fingers, and he just refutes all of them with his grand conspiracy theories. You'd have as much luck trying to convince him that man has really walked on the moon or Elvis is really dead.

I've tried to give up, but it's difficult when each of his posts is broadcast multiple times.

Elindholm I would be more convinced if Amare didnt need an MRI every other minute. You said his micro knee was fine.

 

[Arizona's Finest]

I'm not taking sides here but I don't really understand what anyone can be optimistic about over this last year in regards to Amare.

Conspiracy or non -conspiracy. In his head or real pain. Coaches coddling him or coaches prodding him. Does any of it really matter?

Lets just go with the team we got. I'm at the point where Amare can't be counted on again....ever. ANd anyone who says different is just being optimistic and speculative. And thats fine - everyone deals with things differently. If he is being a primma donna or not the result is the same. we don't get the benefit of his services. Why get all worked up?

But count me officially hitched on to the Boris Diaw bandwagon. Of course knowing my luck with favorite players (From Joe in 2004 to Amare in 2005 and Boris for 2006) he will blow up and sign with the Lakers.....sigh....

 

[Arizona's Finest]

BTW - Why not just make this thread a sticky and have it be 100 pages long by the end of the season. With the amount of times we are going to hear about him sitting out practices or games all we need to do is add the new date.

My main concern is he will become a burden on the team much like he was at the middle of last year with the whole "I'm ready to play!" and then "oh no...I'm not"

You got your money Amare. Just don't f - up the rest of the team by having an ego. Its a tough situation and bad luck - but dont make it worse.

Do i sound bitter? Because I am.......

 

[Forrestham]

We are all frustraded Suns fans. Dr Carter also operated on a friend of mine and is one of the best in the business. Everyone has their differnt elvels of tolerance. Raja played his heart out on one leg when he could hardly walk let alone run. Tomorrow the knee will feel great the next day it hurts and so on. Microfracture is a serious surgery. I know there is pain and he has had one MRI after another. I have had hand surgeries and there is pain and stiffness in them until I worked through it. Amare just needs to go play.
He may be best to be used like McDyess is in Detroit to not put as much on him. He just needs to go out and play and deal with it

 

[msdundee]

"I have had hand surgeries and there is pain and stiffness in them until I worked through it. Amare just needs to go play."

Having had a few adventures in the OR myself, you're right about the pain and stiffness. Rehab can be very painful in itself, but you do it -- you work through the residual pain and stiffness until you can get back to your normal activities. The thing is, none of us have a lifestyle with even close to the demands of a pro athlete, especially on the basketball court.

Most physicians will tell you that recovery from surgery, although it may be the same procedure, is still an individual thing. Even if the doctors check the MRIs and give a thumbs-up, even if Amare takes some flak for being a wimp, nobody knows how the knees feel better than he does. I think he really wants to play, probably bored silly going to games in a suit and playing cheerleader. I'll be happy to see him back, even for short minutes, but hope that working him back in doesn't mess things up over the long haul.

I look at it this way: it looks a little brighter going into this season than it did last year at this time. Then again, it has been suggested that I'm just one of those delusional Suns fans .........

 

[Griffin]

I should only check this board every other day. Then everything would seem peachy. I think the big problem is that Amare can't do what he is doing now over the course of the season. He can't be in and out of the lineup, missing practices, skipping games. He either commits to playing through the occasional stiffness, soreness and pain, or he doesn't play at all. The worst thing for the team would be if Amare is day-to-day or a game-time decision before every game. Hope this is just preseason and he is taking it somewhat easy. But come regular season this cannot continue.

Tomorrow is the first preseason game. We'll see if he plays.

 

[green machine]

Kidd said it took him 18 months to get back fully. He said it takes "patience" to come back from that surgery.

Umm...part of the patience just may have been learning to play with a little pain, stiffness, or just not feeling totally %100. I don't remember Kidd missing an entire season and a half, do you?

 

[Chris_Sanders]

BTW, I changed this title. It is the second one that I have had to change in recent days due to misreprentation on things from Amare.

Please don't make titles like "shutting it down or out 2-3 months" unless it is really happening. It is basically rabble rousing and only encourages panicked reactions.

 

[Treesquid PhD]

Amare has us all acting like a teenager in the bathroom ponedering whether the chick you just asked out a the summer stars dance will say yes. I am sure tomorrow he'll be back in action and everything will be going the other way.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Chaplin are you really done or just elindholm kind of done?

Yup, ignore it is. I am tired of hearing this "they lied to us" broken record.

 

[George O'Brien]

I'm almost inclined to start a poll to determine how many people blame the Suns for Amare's knee problems, Amare for not playing with pain, or simply believe that it takes different people different amounts of time to heal.

Count me in the last category.

 

[pokerface]

Well no one can say they gave Amare plenty of time to heal now can they? Does anyone here think 5 months was just plenty of time to get 100%?? I think not.

 

[green machine]

Well no one can say they gave Amare plenty of time to heal now can they? Does anyone here think 5 months was just plenty of time to get 100%?? I think not.

To get %100? No. But it is very possible that he could be at %75, and the rest will come over time while playing. It is also possible that playing right now could be doing no further damage, or at least, it's not supposed to.

 

[pokerface]

Umm...part of the patience just may have been learning to play with a little pain, stiffness, or just not feeling totally %100. I don't remember Kidd missing an entire season and a half, do you?

Amare hasnt missed a season and a half so what are you saying? I've seen microfracture cases take 1-2 years though.


You know....all this talk on how Amare is supposed to play with pain. Do you think thats the advice doctors are giving?? What if Amare continued to play with pain initially before his microfracture surgery. His "small" lesion wouldn't have ended up so small....he would have made it worse and bigger.

 

[SO91]

Well no one can say they gave Amare plenty of time to heal now can they? Does anyone here think 5 months was just plenty of time to get 100%?? I think not.

Thanks for the insight! You should just recycle your old posts...it would save you some time

 

[pokerface]

Thanks for the insight! You should just recycle your old posts...it would save you some time

Why dont you respond to the statement? Is 5 months plenty of time for Amare to get to 100%? They said they wouldnt bring him back until he's 100%

 

[green machine]

Amare hasnt missed a season and a half so what are you saying? I've seen microfracture cases take 1-2 years though.


You know....all this talk on how Amare is supposed to play with pain. Do you think thats the advice doctors are giving?? What if Amare continued to play with pain initially before his microfracture surgery. His "small" lesion wouldn't have ended up so small....he would have made it worse and bigger.

When you say "I have seen microfracture cases...", what do you mean? Are you just taking what we all know as sports fans with guys like Penny, Allan Houston, Andre Wadsworth, Swann, etc.? Or do you have some first hand experience in the field?